WHICH ONE DO I BUY

[wh1sp3r]

Intel i7-8700 with 1080 and 1TB SSD 
or
AMD 1600AF with 1080 ti and 256GB SSD
(both have same RAM and same price, $1100)

[Guest]

You don't have other alternatives? 

What about a 2700x 1080 and 1TB SSD?

[wh1sp3r]

no alternatives unfortunately

[Guest]

1 minute ago, wh1sp3r said:

no alternatives unfortunately

Then I vote the 8700K. You can upgrade the video card later. The 1600AF can't hold a stick to the 8700K unfortunately.

[jaslion]

The 8700 is an older cpu now. Where are you buying this from? Is this a used system?

[wh1sp3r]

Just now, jaslion said:

The 8700 is an older cpu now. Where are you buying this from? Is this a used system?

indeed, both used, i'm on a budget 

[wh1sp3r]

shoot i put 8700 but its actually 8700k

[wh1sp3r]

3 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Then I vote the 8700K. You can upgrade the video card later. The 1600AF can't hold a stick to the 8700K unfortunately.

ok thanks for your input

[dizmo]

That's a pretty good deal for the 8700k system, go with that. 

[wh1sp3r]

1 minute ago, dizmo said:

That's a pretty good deal for the 8700k system, go with that. 

it seems like most people favor the 8700k lol

[dizmo]

1 minute ago, wh1sp3r said:

it seems like most people favor the 8700k lol

It destroys the 1600.

[wh1sp3r]

2 minutes ago, dizmo said:

It destroys the 1600.

it does, but the gpu difference was what made me hesitate

[RollinLower]

1 minute ago, wh1sp3r said:

it does, but the gpu difference was what made me hesitate

the 1TB SSD is also a big improvement. 256GB is really small if you get sme games installed.

[wh1sp3r]

1 minute ago, RollinLower said:

the 1TB SSD is also a big improvement. 256GB is really small if you get sme games installed.

yeahhh im going with the 8700k build, the 1600AF was smashed

[TetraSky]

As much as I would like to vote for the AMD system... Unfortunately first gen Ryzen, while great, isn't good enough to outperform the 8700k. The 1TB SSD also helps. You lose the ti card, but not that big a loss.

[Guest]

Just now, TetraSky said:

As much as I would like to vote for the AMD system... Unfortunately first gen Ryzen, while great, isn't good enough to outperform the 8700k. The 1TB SSD also helps. You lose the ti card, but not that big a loss.

The 1600 (AF) is actually a Zen+ chip with a Zen part number. But lacks in frequency or ability to OC that of which the 8700K can do. On top of that, the 8700K will easily run high/er frequency memory as well.

[TetraSky]

3 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

The 1600 (AF) is actually a Zen+ chip with a Zen part number.

Ah right, I remember hearing about that a few month back... And thought it was extremely dumb.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, TetraSky said:

Ah right, I remember hearing about that a few month back... And thought it was extremely dumb.

When AMD buys silicon, they have to do something with the over-stock.

X amount of wafers are purchased. Say the 2600x doesn't sell as expected, take some of the left over wafers, do a little neutering and give it a new naming scheme and lower price to sell off them extra wafers. 

They did good with it actually, the 1600AF sells/sold pretty good. Just look at the price of it!!