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Intel 7nm processor in 2021.....

Ok this is not 100% sure but i do know that a buddy of mine works at intel that gave me a date of 2021-22 i am by no means saying I'm right but i was told that and do think its true and makes sense as I'm saying don't trust me on that but intel fans hope is here and considering the i9 10900k performence and that its 14 nm this is going to crush amd into nothing if it is infact true, don't hate please this is my personal knowledge

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You know what, 3 years ago Intel's already saying "10nm coming next year"

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Even if they get onto 7 nm, AMD is going to 5 nm by 2021/2022 and they only got such good results on 14 nm because it was an extremely mature node with which they had years upon years of experience. Their performance isn't going to double just because they have half the transistor size.

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And I only heard about them jumping to 10 nm in 2021/2022.

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2 minutes ago, HiBOSS said:

Even if they get onto 7 nm, AMD is going to 5 nm by 2021/2022 and they only got such good results on 14 nm because it was an extremely mature node with which they had years upon years of experience. Their performance isn't going to double just because they have half the transistor size.

Even still TSMC's and Intels methods of measuring semiconductors is different and Intel's engineers and their fabs have closer relations, thereby their architectures are far better optimized for their nodes so their 7nm process should be about equivalent with TSMC's 5nm. So IF Intel can hit this process and maintain their yields they can be competitive once more, now whether this will happen is another matter entirely, as at the moment Intel still seems pretty dead set on 10nm... 

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1 hour ago, Wh0_Am_1 said:

Even still TSMC's and Intels methods of measuring semiconductors is different and Intel's engineers and their fabs have closer relations, thereby their architectures are far better optimized for their nodes so their 7nm process should be about equivalent with TSMC's 5nm. So IF Intel can hit this process and maintain their yields they can be competitive once more, now whether this will happen is another matter entirely, as at the moment Intel still seems pretty dead set on 10nm... 

amd is just throwing cpus at the market  intel might be slower but it give a better result in the end

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1 hour ago, BenOver said:

amd is just throwing cpus at the market  intel might be slower but it give a better result in the end

Bollocks. 

 

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1 hour ago, BenOver said:

amd is just throwing cpus at the market  intel might be slower but it give a better result in the end

yeah no, amd is actually innovating and pushing new ideas on how to make and connect chips.

 

Given how long it is has taken intel any roadmap they make I won't believe at this time.

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2 hours ago, BenOver said:

amd is just throwing cpus at the market  intel might be slower but it give a better result in the end

That was true the last 15 Years. But not anymore. The last Generation finaly force Intel to wake the fuck up.

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5 hours ago, BenOver said:

Ok this is not 100% sure but i do know that a buddy of mine works at intel that gave me a date of 2021-22 i am by no means saying I'm right but i was told that and do think its true and makes sense as I'm saying don't trust me on that but intel fans hope is here and considering the i9 10900k performence and that its 14 nm this is going to crush amd into nothing if it is infact true, don't hate please this is my personal knowledge

i mean i am supporting amd in the cpu department but you arent wrong. 

intel is at 14nm and yet they still beat amd at gaming. it took amd to go to 7nm to even compete with intel on that front. 
same goes for amd vs nvidia.

nvidia is at 12nm and still beats amd. it took amd to go to 7nm to even compete with them. 

if both of them really do refine their process. they could very well beat amd every single time easily. the only issue is just their pricing. but intel and nvidia do possess more knowledge tech wise. i think they will be fine. 

personally i support amd on the cpu side because they showed that well they can be better and wont jack the pricing up waay to high. And the 2600x i bought at release did come with hyperthreading which intel would only have given had i bought the highest of the highest cpu. and that money i just didnt have back then. im certainly going to be buying a ryzen 4000 processor. just dont know which one i will get. i do want an 8 core 16 thread part. or better to at least be ahead of consoles. since well... 6 core will go the 4 core way now consoles have 8 cores. so whether that will be a 4600x that got a 2+cores and 4 + threads or a 4700x idk. 

i will be sticking with nvidia though gpu wise. they just are better. pricing maybe high but i prefer paying more for a stable gpu than getting a cheaper one that has more issues.
i will be interested to see intels gpu's though. if they are as competitive as amd and nvidia in that department than well.. i may change my mind. 

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18 hours ago, hollyh88 said:

i mean i am supporting amd in the cpu department but you arent wrong. 

intel is at 14nm and yet they still beat amd at gaming. it took amd to go to 7nm to even compete with intel on that front. 
same goes for amd vs nvidia.

nvidia is at 12nm and still beats amd. it took amd to go to 7nm to even compete with them. 

if both of them really do refine their process. they could very well beat amd every single time easily. the only issue is just their pricing. but intel and nvidia do possess more knowledge tech wise. i think they will be fine. 

personally i support amd on the cpu side because they showed that well they can be better and wont jack the pricing up waay to high. And the 2600x i bought at release did come with hyperthreading which intel would only have given had i bought the highest of the highest cpu. and that money i just didnt have back then. im certainly going to be buying a ryzen 4000 processor. just dont know which one i will get. i do want an 8 core 16 thread part. or better to at least be ahead of consoles. since well... 6 core will go the 4 core way now consoles have 8 cores. so whether that will be a 4600x that got a 2+cores and 4 + threads or a 4700x idk. 

i will be sticking with nvidia though gpu wise. they just are better. pricing maybe high but i prefer paying more for a stable gpu than getting a cheaper one that has more issues.
i will be interested to see intels gpu's though. if they are as competitive as amd and nvidia in that department than well.. i may change my mind. 

gpu wise amd is kinda nothing they are low end and thats it the only thing you can compare an amd gpu to nvidia is the 2060 to the 5700 xt and you are right they have a shit ton of problems one of my buds got a 5700 xt like 2 months ago and it died

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3 hours ago, BenOver said:

gpu wise amd is kinda nothing they are low end and thats it the only thing you can compare an amd gpu to nvidia is the 2060 to the 5700 xt and you are right they have a shit ton of problems one of my buds got a 5700 xt like 2 months ago and it died

You can easily compare a 2070 super to a 5700Xt? What are you on about?

 

I also wouldn’t call AMD in the low-end of GPUs if they are competing with nVidias 3rd highest performing consumer GPU. 

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1 minute ago, gloop said:

You can easily compare a 2070 super to a 5700Xt? What are you on about?

 

I also wouldn’t call AMD in the low-end of GPUs if they are competing with nVidias 3rd highest performing consumer GPU. 

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7 minutes ago, BenOver said:

3000 series incoming

But you said:

 

3 hours ago, BenOver said:

the only thing you can compare an amd gpu to nvidia is the 2060 to the 5700 xt

You weren't talking about 3rd gen. I do think 3000 series will outperform what AMD has out at the moment, and I'll probably go the 3000 series for my next build.

 

But your claim that the 2060 is comparable to the 5700xt is just false:

 

 The 5700XT is consistently 10FPS ahead in games, with that difference peaking to about 25fps in some cases.

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A more comparable card would be the 2070 super, where the 5700xt is roughly 5FPS behind, but can sometimes be as much as 10FPS ahead:

 

 

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1 minute ago, gloop said:

But you said:

 

You weren't talking about 3rd gen. I do think 3000 series will outperform what AMD has out at the moment, and I'll probably go the 3000 series for my next build.

 

But your claim that the 2060 is comparable to the 5700xt is just false:

 

 The 5700XT is consistently 10FPS ahead in games, with that difference peaking to about 25fps in some cases.

I didn't phrase my comment right at all the 5700xt is between the 2060-70 super not coming close to a 2080 and it will only get worse since nvidia will have 7 nm in the 3000 by the leaks i seen i'm not sure if it is infact true but either way amd's situation with nvidia will only get worse and nvidia will only make the par larger between the two amd gpus are just not good they might perform better than lets say a 2060 but i will still take the 2060 over the 5700xt so much fucking issues my friend's 5700 xd died after 2 months as i said

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Qualcomm MSM8926 (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Microsoft Lumia 640 LTE
Qualcomm MSM8974AA (T.S.M.C. 28nm) - Blackberry Passport
Qualcomm SDM710 (Samsung 10nm) - Oppo Realme 3 Pro

 

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