Intel's 10th gen

[HardStroke]

So the 10 gen is now available at my country

And i was wondering if the new i7 and i9 (10700k and 10900k) are really worth the money right now compare to the older 9th gen since between the 9700k and 10700k i7 there is a 5 dollars difference and between the 9900k and 10900k i9 there is a 15 dollars difference.

For heavy/normal editing in 1080p/1440p 60 fps and heavy games/future proof is the 10900k worth the money or should i go with the 10700k?

(I know that amd's 3700x and 3900x would be amazing in value and price to preformance and ill probably go with a 3900x but i want to know in general and if its worth the money)

[BlueChinchillaEatingDorito]

1 minute ago, HardStroke said:

So the 10 gen is now available at my country

And i was wondering if the new i7 and i9 (10700k and 10900k) are really worth the money right now compare to the older 9th gen since between the 9700k and 10700k i7 there is a 5 dollars difference and between the 9900k and 10900k i9 there is a 15 dollars difference.

For heavy/normal editing in 1080p/1440p 60 fps and heavy games/future proof is the 10900k worth the money or should i go with the 10700k?

(I know that amd's 3700x and 3900x would be amazing in value and price to preformance and ill probably go with a 3900x but i want to know in general and if its worth the money)

I mean... if it was my money... unless I was really struggling with cash, I don't see a reason not to go for the equivalent 10th gen product. Especially if the price difference was just a couple of bucks. There doesn't seem to be a significant price gap between Z390 and Z490 boards either. 

[AndreiArgeanu]

10th gen intel is not available yet, maybe for preorder, but the actual cpus or motherboards have never been officially launched. Also the newer 10th gen cpus are a better choice because the i7 10700k has 8 more threads than the 9700k which can significantly improve performance and I believe the 10900k has 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads which is again more performance. But remember that the 10900k is made on the 14nm+++++++++  architecture which means that it runs very hot, I've read articles about it running at 90C under water cooling with a 240MM radiator, that's like crazy.

 

For now I wouldn't recommend buying 10th gen intel, either go AMD or wait for 11th gen when Intel maybe makes the choice to finally switch to 10nm.

[Promosss]

I'll just wait for reviews and benchmarks and then make my decisions base on that. Even if it's just a couple bucks difference, i'd still rather wait for reviews.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Promosss said:

I'll just wait for reviews and benchmarks and then make my decisions base on that. Even if it's just a couple bucks difference, i'd still rather wait for reviews.

https://www.techpowerup.com/267287/comprehensive-core-i9-10900k-review-leaked-suggests-intel-option-formidable

[Promosss]

7 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

https://www.techpowerup.com/267287/comprehensive-core-i9-10900k-review-leaked-suggests-intel-option-formidable

If the leaks are to be believed, then i wouldn't touch Intel's new processor at all lmao. Good luck cooling that shit down, for only a few fps difference.

[Jurrunio]

On paper the i7 gets HT while i9 gets 25% more cores which is nice for the small price increase in CPU, but Z490 boards will be expensive even if you aim for the lower end ones. Their exact value propositions cant be judged until they actually start shipping out to customers but I don't see how it will beat Zen 2. And also, there's Zen 3 coming....

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Promosss said:

If the leaks are to be believed, then i wouldn't touch Intel's new processor at all lmao. Good luck cooling that shit down, for only a few fps difference.

Yea probably pull 325w or something like that I'd be guessing. Would be no problem. 

 

I prefer my 2700x to my 8700K, but each rig for use cases. 

See the Intel chips will overclock beyond the stupid turbo 

AMD does not. They top out from the box max boosted.

 

OK so neither platform is really all that great on all fronts IMO>

 

I can't OC AMD. There's like no gains, no voltage scalability..... just set the xmp man. yay fun. (not)

Intel, will overclock, but gets hot as hell. Now with newer 14nm chips getting near the top of the 14nm clock capability on ambient cooling also leaves no room for overclocking unless you go big on cooling. 

 

And that's where we are at in modern 2020 computing. Tons of cores, no scalability, Overclocking is just about dead as it can get even though they give you so called OC features in the Mobo bios.......

 

Might as well everyone buy A320 chipsets. The cpu boosts on that just the same as anything else lol.

 

And  15 years from now, we'll be looking back at this hardware as if it's the most dated shit on the planet XD

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

And that's where we are at in modern 2020 computing. Tons of cores, no scalability, Overclocking is just about dead as it can get even though they give you so called OC features in the Mobo bios.......

Nah memory settings always have things to tune, and always hours to memtest....

[Guest]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Nah memory settings always have things to tune, and always hours to memtest....

Most people don't go there. You know that.

 

I guess what I meant by overclocking, is actually getting performance gains. Like extra FPS.

Even the video cards boost, no head room. Maybe on the v-ram, but that can get sketchy really quick.

 

Some people must forget that average 800mhz OC headroom we'd get. Not, little to none.

 

So here's my take.

 

Give me that 3.7ghz base clock. 

Then let me overclock it manually to 4.2ghz and then we can call me an overclocker again. 

[Jurrunio]

2 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Most people don't go there. You know that.

 

I guess what I meant by overclocking, is actually getting performance gains. Like extra FPS.

Even the video cards boost, no head room. Maybe on the v-ram, but that can get sketchy really quick.

 

Some people must forget that average 800mhz OC headroom we'd get. Not, little to none.

 

So here's my take.

 

Give me that 3.7ghz base clock. 

Then let me overclock it manually to 4.2ghz and then we can call me an overclocker again. 

I know you will, honestly people who only uses XMP doesnt count as an overclocker when there are so many systems that support overclocking these days. I wanna be special and stay further away from the XMP gang.

[Guest]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I know you will, honestly people who only uses XMP doesnt count as an overclocker when there are so many systems that support overclocking these days. I wanna be special and stay further away from the XMP gang.

Indeed. 

There's a lot of them that can't even get into the XMP club. It's actually a shame and not their fault either!

[HardStroke]

50 minutes ago, Promosss said:

If the leaks are to be believed, then i wouldn't touch Intel's new processor at all lmao. Good luck cooling that shit down, for only a few fps difference.

So..... its better leaving my h100x on my i5 3550 and making a custom cpu only loop uh?

[HardStroke]

10 hours ago, AndreiArgeanu said:

10th gen intel is not available yet, maybe for preorder, but the actual cpus or motherboards have never been officially launched. Also the newer 10th gen cpus are a better choice because the i7 10700k has 8 more threads than the 9700k which can significantly improve performance and I believe the 10900k has 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads which is again more performance. But remember that the 10900k is made on the 14nm+++++++++  architecture which means that it runs very hot, I've read articles about it running at 90C under water cooling with a 240MM radiator, that's like crazy.

 

For now I wouldn't recommend buying 10th gen intel, either go AMD or wait for 11th gen when Intel maybe makes the choice to finally switch to 10nm.

90c with a 240mm rad

If its true then thats a HUGE BRUH moment

Cant wait for the 11th gen since i need a new cpu ram and mb for editing and gaming and its kinda important for me right now

[Promosss]

44 minutes ago, HardStroke said:

So..... its better leaving my h100x on my i5 3550 and making a custom cpu only loop uh?

Like i said, it's better to just wait for the embargo to be lifted and benchmarks from reviewers. So far it's just leaks that even though it looks fairly accurate, it's still just leaks. 

[Mouth Watering Melons]

"the next one" is Rocket Lake and it's really Cove Lake backported to 14nm. Intel themselves have said they may skip 10nm and go straight to 7nm... either way the whole world is in lockdown and discovered Esports so all they really have to do is win gaming, and they're doing that already