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6 minutes ago, IamA-kid-LEARNING said:

i am going with a r5 2600 will it be ok?

i mean in newegg none had any problem besides some problems with the POLYCROME SYNC

of course it will be okay. 2600 is six-core, will literally run with everything.

 

Browse through this table, very intuitive.:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/edit#gid=611478281

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-ZwVuH_tinzgpsOdfMvYeCLI5ZbIpnq5fyiWD4NCkkU/edit#gid=229691480

5 minutes ago, IamA-kid-LEARNING said:

How can i measure the vrm's temperature ?

Most modern motherboards have temp hardware built in to the board, and you would use software to measure.

If it's an older mobo, then you have to use some kind of external monitor like a temp gun

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With a thermal probe. Motherboards can give you a reading but unless the VRM consists of powerstages with built-in thermistor, the sensor will be somewhere outside the VRM and there's no regulation on where which means the number is less accurate and unreliable when comparing different motherboards.

 

5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

thermal camera?

4 minutes ago, Radium_Angel said:

like a temp gun

Unless the board runs bare mosfets, an infrared camera is useless.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Unless the board runs bare mosfets, an infrared camera is useless.

You can normally see the board area around the mostfetts which give you a good idea of the temps. 

 

Also really useful for finding the hotspots on a board that you should put a thermocouple in.

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1 minute ago, Radium_Angel said:

True, but what about thos epinpoint temp guns that can be used with a very narrow band of coverage?

Can that peek through the atoms of whatever the heatsink's made of?

 

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

You can normally see the board area around the mostfetts which give you a good idea of the temps. 

Board area can have quite a significant temperature gradient if the heatsink isnt really narrow

 

3 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

Also really useful for finding the hotspots on a board that you should put a thermocouple in.

that is possible, if you point the IR gun towards the back of the PCB. Thickness of PCB is usually much lower than the lateral distance from mosfets to exposed PCB from the front.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

Can that peek through the atoms of whatever the heatsink's made of?

Probably not, but if the mobo has heatsinks for the VRMs, then it's probably modern enough to have temp monitoring hardware built in, which could be read by software.

 

Just my observations on VVRM heatsinks, mobo features and whatnot. Since we don't know what mobo the OP wanted to check on, this is all academic anyway.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

that is possible, if you point the IR gun towards the back of the PCB. Thickness of PCB is usually much lower than the lateral distance from mosfets to exposed PCB from the front.

So I happen to have a thermal camera, lets look at it

 

This board is a evga 780i-sli(i think, probably not exactly right), has some pretty big vrm heatsinks

 

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First one is the back, YOu can see how the vmrs are that hot(as expected, was turned on recently and no load. BUt man those chipsets ran hot.

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Here is the top. The actual mosfetts are covered by the heatsink(and don't look at the temps of the heatsink itsself, its basically a mirror), the iductors are getting pretty warm. Can see a few warm chips on the left aswell, looks like a part of the vrm , can't read the number on them.

 

So not perfect mostfet temps, but gives you a good idea, ans shows you where the hotspots are 

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5 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

So I happen to have a thermal camera, lets look at it

 

This board is a evga 780i-sli(i think, probably not exactly right), has some pretty big vrm heatsinks

 

20200514T083219.JPG.d8c5b0acb6ae41221d8fec84799c606f.JPG

 

First one is the back, YOu can see how the vmrs are that hot(as expected, was turned on recently and no load. BUt man those chipsets ran hot.

20200514T083136.JPG.792e567da5a4f06d0e3a502174412375.JPG

 

Here is the top. The actual mosfetts are covered by the heatsink(and don't look at the temps of the heatsink itsself, its basically a mirror), the iductors are getting pretty warm. Can see a few warm chips on the left aswell, looks like a part of the vrm , can't read the number on them.

 

So not perfect mostfet temps, but gives you a good idea, ans shows you where the hotspots are

yeah but thermal cameras are too expensive :(

 

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If your motherboard has temperature sensors "on board", you can use either HWInfo 64 or similar

 

But most of the time, if you have airflow in your case& do not go overboard with vcore and vsoc voltages, then you have nothing to worry about with half decent boards.

 

What motherboard are you running @IamA-kid-LEARNING

Life is really challenging. I don't always suceed: )

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1 hour ago, Vejnemojnen said:

If your motherboard has temperature sensors "on board", you can use either HWInfo 64 or similar

 

But most of the time, if you have airflow in your case& do not go overboard with vcore and vsoc voltages, then you have nothing to worry about with half decent boards.

 

What motherboard are you running @IamA-kid-LEARNING

i  WILL buy a Asrock steel legend B450M

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2 hours ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

evga 780i-sli

Hey i have this board!

AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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2 minutes ago, scuff gang said:

Hey i have this board!

You don't happen to have a 790i do you?

 

I have a 680i, 780i, and a 790i, and the 790i just won't post. Tried a few cpus and ram configs, reset the bios. Kinda just want to play with the best of 775

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38 minutes ago, IamA-kid-LEARNING said:

i  WILL buy a Asrock steel legend B450M

You will be fine with six-eight core cpu-s. Not the best mobo I know of, but capable enough for most.

I'd still check prices on MSI B450 A-Pro MAX and Gaming Plus MAX though :) 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-A-PRO-MAX

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/b450-gaming-plus-max

Life is really challenging. I don't always suceed: )

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44 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

You don't happen to have a 790i do you?

I might, let me check real quick

 

-sadly I do not, I have a 780 and a 750, the 780 is still in service lol.

AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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59 minutes ago, Vejnemojnen said:

You will be fine with six-eight core cpu-s. Not the best mobo I know of, but capable enough for most.

I'd still check prices on MSI B450 A-Pro MAX and Gaming Plus MAX though :) 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/B450-A-PRO-MAX

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/b450-gaming-plus-max

i am going with a r5 2600 will it be ok?

i mean in newegg none had any problem besides some problems with the POLYCROME SYNC

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6 minutes ago, IamA-kid-LEARNING said:

i am going with a r5 2600 will it be ok?

i mean in newegg none had any problem besides some problems with the POLYCROME SYNC

of course it will be okay. 2600 is six-core, will literally run with everything.

 

Browse through this table, very intuitive.:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9_E3h8bLp-TXr-0zTJFqqVxdCR9daIVNyMatydkpFA/edit#gid=611478281

 

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-ZwVuH_tinzgpsOdfMvYeCLI5ZbIpnq5fyiWD4NCkkU/edit#gid=229691480

Life is really challenging. I don't always suceed: )

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3 hours ago, IamA-kid-LEARNING said:

the asrock steel legend ?

Look at my quote

AMD blackout rig

 

cpu: ryzen 5 3600 @4.4ghz @1.35v

gpu: rx5700xt 2200mhz

ram: vengeance lpx c15 3200mhz

mobo: gigabyte b550 auros pro 

psu: cooler master mwe 650w

case: masterbox mbx520

fans:Noctua industrial 3000rpm x6

 

 

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