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Curious Pineapple
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I'm in need of a graphics card thats made by someone other than AMD/ATi/nVidia. Needs to be be PCI-e and single slot. Anyone know of anything I can use? Onboard is not an option, machine doesn't have any support for it, neither is USB as I need it as a boot adaptor.

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Sadly those don't exist because AMD and nVidia literally control 100% of the desktop dedicated gpu market.

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Wait for Intel to release their Xe GPUs.

 

For what purpose are you interested in getting a non Nvidia or AMD card?

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10 minutes ago, Curious Pineapple said:

I'm in need of a graphics card thats made by someone other than AMD/ATi/nVidia

Well, Matrox exists. Alternatively, steal a prototype Intel Xe?

 

I'm curious to know what circumstances you've run into that this is the requirement?

 

EDIT: sniped by @aisle9 and @Fasauceome.

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MATROX! Forgot about them.

 

I'm moving a few machines over to virtualisation and a using both Radeon and Geforce cards for the guests. If I blacklist the drivers in PVE, I can't have a card for the host console. I can go headless if needed but I'd rather have access to the terminal rather than booting a live USB, removing the driver blacklist, rebooting, doing whatever needs doing, rebooting to live again, blacklisting drivers then rebooting.

 

I may end up ditching my GTX1050 for an AMD card at some point so that would leave me free to use an nVidia card for the host console, but that wont be any time soon.

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2 minutes ago, Curious Pineapple said:

MATROX! Forgot about them.

You and everyone else since 2002.

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7 minutes ago, Curious Pineapple said:

MATROX! Forgot about them.

 

I'm moving a few machines over to virtualisation and a using both Radeon and Geforce cards for the guests. If I blacklist the drivers in PVE, I can't have a card for the host console. I can go headless if needed but I'd rather have access to the terminal rather than booting a live USB, removing the driver blacklist, rebooting, doing whatever needs doing, rebooting to live again, blacklisting drivers then rebooting.

 

I may end up ditching my GTX1050 for an AMD card at some point so that would leave me free to use an nVidia card for the host console, but that wont be any time soon.

If you are blacklisting drivers and using consumer cards wouldn't quador's and firepro's work too as they both have different drivers compared to consumer cards?

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Most newer MATROX cards are just none ref. AMD cards.

Wile kinda old the S3 Chrome 500 Series is and option. There is also usb video cards

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11 minutes ago, Curious Pineapple said:

I'm moving a few machines over to virtualisation and a using both Radeon and Geforce cards for the guests. If I blacklist the drivers in PVE, I can't have a card for the host console. I can go headless if needed but I'd rather have access to the terminal rather than booting a live USB, removing the driver blacklist, rebooting, doing whatever needs doing, rebooting to live again, blacklisting drivers then rebooting.

 

I may end up ditching my GTX1050 for an AMD card at some point so that would leave me free to use an nVidia card for the host console, but that wont be any time soon.

This is one case where having IPMI really shines. :D

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3 minutes ago, jaslion said:

If you are blacklisting drivers and using consumer cards wouldn't quador's and firepro's work too as they both have different drivers compared to consumer cards?

I have a couple of Quadro's I tried with but the host kernel grabs all nVidia cards with the same driver. Don't have the cables for them so don't even know if they work. They got mighty hot though.

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4 minutes ago, jj9987 said:

This is one case where having IPMI really shines. :D

I do actually have ASF and DASH 1.1 support on the machine, I'll have to look into that.

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39 minutes ago, Curious Pineapple said:

I do actually have ASF and DASH 1.1 support on the machine, I'll have to look into that.

I have an ASUS motherboard, which has IPMI. It has a dedicated GPU for VGA output on the motherboard, so might be related to that. Don't have much experience with server motherboards, so don't know about other boards.

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Things are getting weird now. My Windows 10 VM works fine, passthroughs work well, gaming performance is the same as it used to be. I can't get a damn MacOS VM to boot with my Radeon as a primary display, but is booting now with my GTX. Not just the OS, the VM itself loads one core to over 100%????? and just freezes with no splash screen.

 

Swapped over the USB controller and GPU's that are being passed through and both boot fine. I say fine, MacOS is just jammed up but at least it has actually started to boot instead of going over 100% CPU usage!

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