Posted April 27, 2020 Hi, So my pc has a 9700K running at 4.8GHz, a ASUS Maximus XI Code, 32GB of Corsair Dominator platinum ram (rated at 3600MHz), and a EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3 Hybrid. I’ve had an issue where my PC crashes when enabling XMP (I’ve tried XMP I and XMP II) since I upgraded to the 9700K, but until now I’ve just ignored it run at stock RAM speeds. I’m not sure what to do. I’ve tried disabling my CPU overclock but it still crashes. Any tips? Riptide Spoiler | CPU - i7 9700K @4.8GHz | Motherboard - ASUS ROG Maximus XI Code | Cooler - NZXT Kraken X52 | RAM - Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB @3600MHz | GPU - EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3 Hybrid @2.1GHz | Storage - Samsung 960 Pro 512GB; Samsung 850 Evo 1TB; WD Black 2TB | Power Supply - EVGA G3 1000 Watt (with CableMod Cables) | Case - Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX TG (Anthracite Gray) | Case Fans - Too many Corsair ML120 Pro fans | Peripherals Spoiler | Keyboard - Corsair K95 RGB Platinum with Cherry MX Brown switches | Mouse - Logitech G Pro + Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum | Audio - Sennheiser PC37X + GSX 1000 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27, 2020 Well, first of all, have you upgraded the BIOS at all? Memory compatibility tends to be more stable on the latest revisions. Also, did you tune the voltage on the RAM so it might help stability? I haven't had luck running it on auto myself. Another thing, if you OCed the CPU core clock instead of the multiplier, that might cause memory instability as well Frostbite (White build PC) Spoiler MSI B350M Mortar Arctic - Ryzen 5 1600 @ 3.9 GHz - Corsair H60 - ASUS GTX 1060 3GB DUAL OC @ (2130 MHz Core Clock + 4600 MHz Mem Clock) 2x8GB 3200MHz Corsair Vengeance C16 - Corsair 400C White - EVGA 650 GQ Razer Deathadder Chroma - Razer Blackwidow Tournament Edition Chroma - Sennheiser HD 598 SR - LG 24MP59G-P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27, 2020 Add a bit more dram voltage, say up to 1.4v, and increase VCCSA and VCCIO to 1.2. Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. My System: i7-13700KF // Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix // MSI MPG Z690 Edge Wifi // 32GB DDR5 G. SKILL RIPJAWS S5 6000 CL32 // Nvidia RTX 4070 Super FE // Corsair 5000D Airflow // Corsair SP120 RGB Pro x7 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w //1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Teamgroup MP33/2TB Seagate 7200RPM Hard Drive // Displays: LG Ultragear 32GP83B x2 // Royal Kludge RK100 // Logitech G Pro X Superlight // Sennheiser DROP PC38x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27, 2020 Author 41 minutes ago, katoptrys said: Well, first of all, have you upgraded the BIOS at all? Memory compatibility tends to be more stable on the latest revisions. Also, did you tune the voltage on the RAM so it might help stability? I haven't had luck running it on auto myself. Another thing, if you OCed the CPU core clock instead of the multiplier, that might cause memory instability as well Yes, I have the BIOS updated. I’ll try upping the voltage, but I ran 3600MHz with stock (preset) voltage when I was on my Z270 board with my old 7700K. As far as the CPU overclock, I did use the multiplayer, however even with the CPU overclock disabled it still crashes. Riptide Spoiler | CPU - i7 9700K @4.8GHz | Motherboard - ASUS ROG Maximus XI Code | Cooler - NZXT Kraken X52 | RAM - Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB @3600MHz | GPU - EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3 Hybrid @2.1GHz | Storage - Samsung 960 Pro 512GB; Samsung 850 Evo 1TB; WD Black 2TB | Power Supply - EVGA G3 1000 Watt (with CableMod Cables) | Case - Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX TG (Anthracite Gray) | Case Fans - Too many Corsair ML120 Pro fans | Peripherals Spoiler | Keyboard - Corsair K95 RGB Platinum with Cherry MX Brown switches | Mouse - Logitech G Pro + Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum | Audio - Sennheiser PC37X + GSX 1000 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27, 2020 Author Is it recommended to use XMP I or XMP II? Riptide Spoiler | CPU - i7 9700K @4.8GHz | Motherboard - ASUS ROG Maximus XI Code | Cooler - NZXT Kraken X52 | RAM - Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB @3600MHz | GPU - EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3 Hybrid @2.1GHz | Storage - Samsung 960 Pro 512GB; Samsung 850 Evo 1TB; WD Black 2TB | Power Supply - EVGA G3 1000 Watt (with CableMod Cables) | Case - Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX TG (Anthracite Gray) | Case Fans - Too many Corsair ML120 Pro fans | Peripherals Spoiler | Keyboard - Corsair K95 RGB Platinum with Cherry MX Brown switches | Mouse - Logitech G Pro + Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum | Audio - Sennheiser PC37X + GSX 1000 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 27, 2020 2 minutes ago, KSP said: Is it recommended to use XMP I or XMP II? not sure, i have never seen XMP I or II; what changes when you select one over the other Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. My System: i7-13700KF // Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix // MSI MPG Z690 Edge Wifi // 32GB DDR5 G. SKILL RIPJAWS S5 6000 CL32 // Nvidia RTX 4070 Super FE // Corsair 5000D Airflow // Corsair SP120 RGB Pro x7 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w //1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Teamgroup MP33/2TB Seagate 7200RPM Hard Drive // Displays: LG Ultragear 32GP83B x2 // Royal Kludge RK100 // Logitech G Pro X Superlight // Sennheiser DROP PC38x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 28, 2020 Author 3 hours ago, Mister Woof said: not sure, i have never seen XMP I or II; what changes when you select one over the other (From the ROG forums): “XMP I - Board optimised timings XMP II - Default XMP timings” XMP I is the same XMP profile found on older ASUS motherboards. Riptide Spoiler | CPU - i7 9700K @4.8GHz | Motherboard - ASUS ROG Maximus XI Code | Cooler - NZXT Kraken X52 | RAM - Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB @3600MHz | GPU - EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3 Hybrid @2.1GHz | Storage - Samsung 960 Pro 512GB; Samsung 850 Evo 1TB; WD Black 2TB | Power Supply - EVGA G3 1000 Watt (with CableMod Cables) | Case - Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX TG (Anthracite Gray) | Case Fans - Too many Corsair ML120 Pro fans | Peripherals Spoiler | Keyboard - Corsair K95 RGB Platinum with Cherry MX Brown switches | Mouse - Logitech G Pro + Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum | Audio - Sennheiser PC37X + GSX 1000 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 28, 2020 20 hours ago, KSP said: Yes, I have the BIOS updated. I’ll try upping the voltage, but I ran 3600MHz with stock (preset) voltage when I was on my Z270 board with my old 7700K. As far as the CPU overclock, I did use the multiplayer, however even with the CPU overclock disabled it still crashes. Each CPU is uniquely different -- the CPU "silicon lottery." The motherboard also plays part role. It looks like the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) within your i7-7700K is better than the IMC in your i7-9700K. DDR4-3600 can only be obtained by overclocking the CPU's IMC. i7-9700K is only rated up until DDR4-2666, which does not require overclocking. Try this: Enable XMP for DDR4-3600 frequency, so the timings + voltages are set for you With XMP still enabled, MANUALLY set the DRAM frequency to...say... DDR4-3466 or DDR4-3400. See if any of those lower frequencies are stable Intel Z390 Rig ( *NEW* Primary ) Intel X99 Rig (Officially Decommissioned, Dead CPU returned to Intel) i7-8086K @ 5.1 GHz Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master Sapphire NITRO+ RX 6800 XT S.E + EKwb Quantum Vector Full Cover Waterblock 32GB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4-3000 CL14 @ DDR-3400 custom CL15 timings SanDisk 480 GB SSD + 1TB Samsung 860 EVO + 500GB Samsung 980 + 1TB WD SN750 EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod Cables Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL Ekwb Custom loop + 2x EKwb Quantum Surface P360M Radiators Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Corsair K70 (Red LED, anodized black, Cheery MX Browns) AMD Ryzen Rig AMD R7-5800X Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC 32GB (16GB X 2) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 Gigabyte Vision RTX 3060 Ti OC EKwb D-RGB 360mm AIO Intel 660p NVMe 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB + WD Black 1TB HDD EVGA P2 850W + White CableMod cables Lian-Li LanCool II Mesh - White Intel Z97 Rig (Decomissioned) Intel i5-4690K @ 4.8 GHz ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero Z97 Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7950 EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition ACX 3.0 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz Corsair A50 air cooler NZXT X61 Crucial MX500 1TB SSD + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version] Antec New TruePower 550W EVGA G2 650W + White CableMod cables Cooler Master HAF 912 White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips AMD 990FX Rig (Decommissioned) FX-8350 @ 4.8 / 4.9 GHz (given up on the 5.0 / 5.1 GHz attempt) ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX 12 GB (4 GB X 3) G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 @ 1866 MHz Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 + Sapphire Dual-X HD 7970 in Crossfire Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire *NONE* Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD Corsair TX850 (ver.1) Cooler Master HAF 932 <> Electrical Engineer , B.Eng <> <> Electronics & Computer Engineering Technologist (Diploma + Advanced Diploma) <> <> Electronics Engineering Technician for the Canadian Department of National Defence <> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted April 28, 2020 Author 20 minutes ago, -rascal- said: Each CPU is uniquely different -- the CPU "silicon lottery." The motherboard also plays part role. It looks like the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) within your i7-7700K is better than the IMC in your i7-9700K. DDR4-3600 can only be obtained by overclocking the CPU's IMC. i7-9700K is only rated up until DDR4-2666, which does not require overclocking. Try this: Enable XMP for DDR4-3600 frequency, so the timings + voltages are set for you With XMP still enabled, MANUALLY set the DRAM frequency to...say... DDR4-3466 or DDR4-3400. See if any of those lower frequencies are stable Ah yes, I forgot about IMC. I just assumed that these newer CPUs would just somehow be better built for higher RAM frequencies lol. Anyways, I’ve been running it at 3400MHz now and it seems to be fine. I’ll run it for the next few hours to be sure of course. Kinda sucks that I can’t use all 3600MHz, but I suppose it’ll only be a difference of a few frames in games. Thanks! Riptide Spoiler | CPU - i7 9700K @4.8GHz | Motherboard - ASUS ROG Maximus XI Code | Cooler - NZXT Kraken X52 | RAM - Corsair Dominator Platinum 32GB @3600MHz | GPU - EVGA GTX 1080Ti FTW3 Hybrid @2.1GHz | Storage - Samsung 960 Pro 512GB; Samsung 850 Evo 1TB; WD Black 2TB | Power Supply - EVGA G3 1000 Watt (with CableMod Cables) | Case - Phanteks Enthoo Evolv ATX TG (Anthracite Gray) | Case Fans - Too many Corsair ML120 Pro fans | Peripherals Spoiler | Keyboard - Corsair K95 RGB Platinum with Cherry MX Brown switches | Mouse - Logitech G Pro + Logitech G900 Chaos Spectrum | Audio - Sennheiser PC37X + GSX 1000 | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2022 On 4/27/2020 at 10:11 PM, -rascal- said: Each CPU is uniquely different -- the CPU "silicon lottery." The motherboard also plays part role. It looks like the Integrated Memory Controller (IMC) within your i7-7700K is better than the IMC in your i7-9700K. DDR4-3600 can only be obtained by overclocking the CPU's IMC. i7-9700K is only rated up until DDR4-2666, which does not require overclocking. Try this: Enable XMP for DDR4-3600 frequency, so the timings + voltages are set for you With XMP still enabled, MANUALLY set the DRAM frequency to...say... DDR4-3466 or DDR4-3400. See if any of those lower frequencies are stable I'm currently running the same cpu 9700 i'm running ddr4-3200. If it's true the CPU is not allowing the Ram speed to go past 2666, which frequency should i set it to for 3200 ? specs of pc: CPU: Intel Core i7 9700K RAM: Kingston Technology HyperX Fury Black 32GB 3200MHz DDR4 Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero Z390 Gaming Motherboard LGA1151 GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 8gb SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB - M.2 Noctua NH-D15, Premium CPU Cooler with 2X NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans EVGA Platinum Supernova 1000Watt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2022 5 hours ago, comprehend said: I'm currently running the same cpu 9700 i'm running ddr4-3200. If it's true the CPU is not allowing the Ram speed to go past 2666, which frequency should i set it to for 3200 ? specs of pc: CPU: Intel Core i7 9700K RAM: Kingston Technology HyperX Fury Black 32GB 3200MHz DDR4 Motherboard: ASUS ROG Maximus XI Hero Z390 Gaming Motherboard LGA1151 GPU: EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 FTW3 ULTRA GAMING 8gb SAMSUNG 970 EVO Plus SSD 1TB - M.2 Noctua NH-D15, Premium CPU Cooler with 2X NF-A15 PWM 140mm Fans EVGA Platinum Supernova 1000Watt No the CPU can run / operate over DDR4-2666. It's just Intel no guaranteeing anything above the official DDR4-2666 spec, and if you go over and kill something, it is on you, not Intel. It's like buying a car, and you decide to engine/power mods...the engine/block can handle more power, just if you do mods, and it blows up...then it's on you. If the car is rated for 350 HP, you aren't guaranteed how much extra power you can add before it becomes unstable. +5 HP? +100 HP? On my i7-8086K, it is also officially rated for DDR4-2666, but I'm running a custom DRAM OC (i.e. not using XMP), and I'm running my 32GB of RAM at DDR4-3600. XMP is rated only for DDR4-3000. If it is stable a DDR4-3200 with XMP, then leave it running at. You can also try pushing them further, if you want. In OP's case, XMP @ DDR4-3600 is NOT stable for them. Intel Z390 Rig ( *NEW* Primary ) Intel X99 Rig (Officially Decommissioned, Dead CPU returned to Intel) i7-8086K @ 5.1 GHz Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master Sapphire NITRO+ RX 6800 XT S.E + EKwb Quantum Vector Full Cover Waterblock 32GB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4-3000 CL14 @ DDR-3400 custom CL15 timings SanDisk 480 GB SSD + 1TB Samsung 860 EVO + 500GB Samsung 980 + 1TB WD SN750 EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod Cables Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL Ekwb Custom loop + 2x EKwb Quantum Surface P360M Radiators Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Corsair K70 (Red LED, anodized black, Cheery MX Browns) AMD Ryzen Rig AMD R7-5800X Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC 32GB (16GB X 2) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 Gigabyte Vision RTX 3060 Ti OC EKwb D-RGB 360mm AIO Intel 660p NVMe 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB + WD Black 1TB HDD EVGA P2 850W + White CableMod cables Lian-Li LanCool II Mesh - White Intel Z97 Rig (Decomissioned) Intel i5-4690K @ 4.8 GHz ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero Z97 Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7950 EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition ACX 3.0 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz Corsair A50 air cooler NZXT X61 Crucial MX500 1TB SSD + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version] Antec New TruePower 550W EVGA G2 650W + White CableMod cables Cooler Master HAF 912 White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips AMD 990FX Rig (Decommissioned) FX-8350 @ 4.8 / 4.9 GHz (given up on the 5.0 / 5.1 GHz attempt) ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX 12 GB (4 GB X 3) G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 @ 1866 MHz Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 + Sapphire Dual-X HD 7970 in Crossfire Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire *NONE* Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD Corsair TX850 (ver.1) Cooler Master HAF 932 <> Electrical Engineer , B.Eng <> <> Electronics & Computer Engineering Technologist (Diploma + Advanced Diploma) <> <> Electronics Engineering Technician for the Canadian Department of National Defence <> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2022 39 minutes ago, -rascal- said: No the CPU can run / operate over DDR4-2666. It's just Intel no guaranteeing anything above the official DDR4-2666 spec, and if you go over and kill something, it is on you, not Intel. It's like buying a car, and you decide to engine/power mods...the engine/block can handle more power, just if you do mods, and it blows up...then it's on you. If the car is rated for 350 HP, you aren't guaranteed how much extra power you can add before it becomes unstable. +5 HP? +100 HP? On my i7-8086K, it is also officially rated for DDR4-2666, but I'm running a custom DRAM OC (i.e. not using XMP), and I'm running my 32GB of RAM at DDR4-3600. XMP is rated only for DDR4-3000. If it is stable a DDR4-3200 with XMP, then leave it running at. You can also try pushing them further, if you want. In OP's case, XMP @ DDR4-3600 is NOT stable for them. umm ok, but i can't run XMP. the PC crashes, when i run XMP it will run about 5 min and the ram will be set for 3200. So i manually need to up the voltage for ram im assuming for it to work? buys 3200 speed only getting 2666. hmmmm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 25, 2022 14 minutes ago, comprehend said: umm ok, but i can't run XMP. the PC crashes, when i run XMP it will run about 5 min and the ram will be set for 3200. So i manually need to up the voltage for ram im assuming for it to work? buys 3200 speed only getting 2666. hmmmm What is the kit's DRAM voltage rated at when XMP is enabled? I guess, while I'm asking, what is the kit model #? Default DRAM voltage, JEDEC spec, is 1.200V. XMP usually sets the voltage to 1.35V, so double check that. Intel Z390 Rig ( *NEW* Primary ) Intel X99 Rig (Officially Decommissioned, Dead CPU returned to Intel) i7-8086K @ 5.1 GHz Gigabyte Z390 Aorus Master Sapphire NITRO+ RX 6800 XT S.E + EKwb Quantum Vector Full Cover Waterblock 32GB G.Skill TridentZ DDR4-3000 CL14 @ DDR-3400 custom CL15 timings SanDisk 480 GB SSD + 1TB Samsung 860 EVO + 500GB Samsung 980 + 1TB WD SN750 EVGA SuperNOVA 850W P2 + Red/White CableMod Cables Lian-Li O11 Dynamic EVO XL Ekwb Custom loop + 2x EKwb Quantum Surface P360M Radiators Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum + Corsair K70 (Red LED, anodized black, Cheery MX Browns) AMD Ryzen Rig AMD R7-5800X Gigabyte B550 Aorus Pro AC 32GB (16GB X 2) Crucial Ballistix RGB DDR4-3600 Gigabyte Vision RTX 3060 Ti OC EKwb D-RGB 360mm AIO Intel 660p NVMe 1TB + Crucial MX500 1TB + WD Black 1TB HDD EVGA P2 850W + White CableMod cables Lian-Li LanCool II Mesh - White Intel Z97 Rig (Decomissioned) Intel i5-4690K @ 4.8 GHz ASUS ROG Maximus VII Hero Z97 Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7950 EVGA GTX 1070 SC Black Edition ACX 3.0 20 GB (8GB X 2 + 4GB X 1) Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600 MHz Corsair A50 air cooler NZXT X61 Crucial MX500 1TB SSD + SanDisk Ultra II 240GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD [non-gimped version] Antec New TruePower 550W EVGA G2 650W + White CableMod cables Cooler Master HAF 912 White NZXT S340 Elite w/ white LED stips AMD 990FX Rig (Decommissioned) FX-8350 @ 4.8 / 4.9 GHz (given up on the 5.0 / 5.1 GHz attempt) ASUS ROG Crosshair V Formula 990FX 12 GB (4 GB X 3) G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 @ 1866 MHz Sapphire Vapor-X HD 7970 + Sapphire Dual-X HD 7970 in Crossfire Sapphire NITRO R9-Fury in Crossfire *NONE* Thermaltake Frio w/ Cooler Master JetFlo's in push-pull Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD + Kingston V300 120GB SSD + WD Caviar Black 1TB HDD Corsair TX850 (ver.1) Cooler Master HAF 932 <> Electrical Engineer , B.Eng <> <> Electronics & Computer Engineering Technologist (Diploma + Advanced Diploma) <> <> Electronics Engineering Technician for the Canadian Department of National Defence <> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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