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Hello fellow LTT community, 

 

Needs: Some help on picking new MOBO CPU combo (Ram included).

Current setup:

-i7 4960x

-12 gb ddr3 1600 (1 broken dimm slot) 

-ROG Rampage formula IV 

-ROG Vega 64

-EVGA G3 750

My usage: I multitask with adobe photo premiere (3 monitors) and play/stream games on the side.  

 

Note: my current cooling setup is twin 360 mm rads in a PC-011 dynamic, running current setup below 60C on full load sustained.

 

I have my mind leaning towards AMD CPU based setup because of their affordability. The weird thing is that first gen threadrippers (1900x) is cheaper than a second gen 2700x ($280, $400 respectively). This cost if offset by the expensive prices of x399 motherboards (which I get). I think the two would offset each other, making it a matter of preference, reliability, and features. 

 

Pretty open to ideas and would appreciate any input. Budget would be somewhere around $1000-$1300 CAD, I am allotting 150-200 for a higher wattage PSU in case my 750 wont handle a recommended setup. 

 

CPU Recommended: Ryzen 3700x (Most Recommended) 

Motherboard Recommended: Asus TUF Gaming X570 Plus 

Ram Recommended: 

 

 

 

Stay positive, test negative! 

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honestly you are fine with 3900x/3950x

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor $637.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Motherboard Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $338.50 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $273.99 @ Newegg Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1250.48
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 13:46 EDT-0400  

 

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5 minutes ago, SgtFilthyFrank said:

 

What's your budget/country?

 

Should totally just buy my 1950X system

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $429.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $229.50 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $119.99 @ Memory Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $778.49
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 13:48 EDT-0400  

For your use case Threadripper, particularly 1st gen which you mentioned, wouldn't really be ideal, as it would underperform badly in gaming (below your 4960X most likely).

Also, you should be fine with your current PSU. A 3700X will most likely end up consuming less than your 4960X.

 

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4 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

honestly you are fine with 3900x/3950x

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor $637.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Motherboard Asus PRIME X570-PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard $338.50 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Trident Z Neo 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $273.99 @ Newegg Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1250.48
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 13:46 EDT-0400  

 

Thank you for your input. I live the possibility of 12 cores and the most up to date hardware. Would you consider a first gen 1920x (12C/24T) setup comparable to a 3900x? 

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5 minutes ago, SgtFilthyFrank said:

Pretty open to ideas and would appreciate any input. Budget would be somewhere around $1000-$1300 CAD, I am allotting 150-200 for a higher wattage PSU in case my 750 wont handle a recommended setup. 

 

CPU Recommended: 

Motherboard Recommended: 

Ram Recommended: 

PSU Recommended (if needed): 

 

750W is plenty and the G3 is a decent PSU, no need to upgrade. For refrence my R7 3800x + 1080Ti + 6 drives + 7 fans only draws 475W MAX from the wall.

 

As for a upgrade right now in Canada the 3700x would  make the most sense based on pricing, I recommend:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $429.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI) ATX AM4 Motherboard $258.50 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $195.99 @ Newegg Canada
Storage HP EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $105.99 @ Newegg Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $989.48
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 13:49 EDT-0400  

The Asus X570 TUF Gaming Plus is a great motherboard, and has WiFi if you need it. At this point you might as well X570 as well.

32GB of RAM is good, you could also go for 16GB of 3600MHz CL16 RAM.

Not sure if you have storage, if not the HP stuff is good, well priced, and has DRAM cache. 

 

If you want to go all out on CPU performance:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor $637.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop
Motherboard Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard $208.50 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $119.99 @ Memory Express
Storage HP EX920 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $105.99 @ Newegg Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1072.47
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 13:54 EDT-0400  

 

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3 minutes ago, Mateyyy said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $429.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard $229.50 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $119.99 @ Memory Express
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $778.49
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 13:48 EDT-0400  

For your use case Threadripper, particularly 1st gen which you mentioned, wouldn't really be ideal, as it would underperform badly in gaming (below your 4960X most likely).

Also, you should be fine with your current PSU. A 3700X will most likely end up consuming less than your 4960X.

 

Thank you very much! I find it funny how a 3rd gen 3700x is cheaper than a 2700x. I was worried about the possibility of threadripper gaming, considering all the workstation CPU's are not produced for the purpose of gaming. 

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Thank you for your input. I live the possibility of 12 cores and the most up to date hardware. Would you consider a first gen 1920x (12C/24T) setup comparable to a 3900x? 

it's like 25% slower per core

Really don't need to get a 12 core CPU though, and you might want an X570 board just for the better VRM for the 12 core, though a B450 board with plenty of cooling can handle it.
 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jVbMrV

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  ($429.00 @ Canada Computers)
Motherboard: MSI B450M PRO-VDH MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($115.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Patriot Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $749.48
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 13:53 EDT-0400

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/r2Ty3t

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor  ($637.99 @ Mike's Computer Shop)
Motherboard: Asus TUF GAMING X570-PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($229.50 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory  ($119.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Patriot Burst 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($84.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Total: $1072.47
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 13:56 EDT-0400

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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3 minutes ago, SgtFilthyFrank said:

Thank you for your input. I live the possibility of 12 cores and the most up to date hardware. Would you consider a first gen 1920x (12C/24T) setup comparable to a 3900x? 

first gen thread ripper is little worse than 3900x in multitasking and much worse in gaming.

now you can go with thedaily's build with 3700x and no rgb. or with my build with 3900x and rgb ram and rgb motherboard

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2 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

first gen thread ripper is little worse than 3900x in multitasking and much worse in gaming.

now you can go with thedaily's build with 3700x and no rgb. or with my build with 3900x and rgb ram and rgb motherboard

I mean... Based off my provided picture RGB is not a necessity, but i would go with it if the value and "DAAAAAAMNNNN" factor really made my rig pop.

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1 minute ago, SgtFilthyFrank said:

I mean... Based off my provided picture RGB is not a necessity, but i would go with it if the value and "DAAAAAAMNNNN" factor really made my rig pop.

well your rig was cool and it had rgb. so i figured that you want rgb on ram and mobo too.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor $1079.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard $208.50 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $109.99 @ Newegg Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1397.49
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 14:06 EDT-0400  

if you can afford that 16 core beast it would last you for years.

 

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14 minutes ago, SavageNeo said:

well your rig was cool and it had rgb. so i figured that you want rgb on ram and mobo too.

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3950X 3.5 GHz 16-Core Processor $1079.00 @ Canada Computers
Motherboard Asus PRIME X570-P ATX AM4 Motherboard $208.50 @ Vuugo
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $109.99 @ Newegg Canada
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1397.49
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 14:06 EDT-0400  

if you can afford that 16 core beast it would last you for years.

 

I think in terms of my workload, a 16 core CPU might be alittle overkill. I can appreciate how AMD prices their products very, very reasonably though. 

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