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Morgiee
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Hello all. My last pc build was 7 years ago. Now my brother wants me to build him a pc to do the following:

 

Good gaming performance

Photo and video storage 

Minor photo and video editing. 

 

So the big question. Amd or Intel? 

 

I'm looking to do a stable overclock on cpu and gpu so will want to go watercooling for cpu and with gpu unless the gpu in question has good air cooling as standard. 

 

Doesn't have to look pretty as the tower is going to be enclosed in a workstation unit so won't be on show. 

 

Budget is £1500-2000 or for out US friends $1856.14 - 2474.85

Ideally in that price range want to supply 144hz monitor and nesessery perrifirals. 

 

Even if you know of a up to date recommended budget by budget guide that would be great 👍

 

Thanks guys and Gals 

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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  (€189.95 @ Azerty) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR TITANIUM Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (€120.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (€105.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Storage: Crucial P1 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (€81.95 @ Bytes At Work) 
Storage: Toshiba P300 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (€66.89 @ Alternate Belgium) 
Video Card: MSI Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB MECH OC Video Card  (€424.05 @ Azerty) 
Power Supply: Corsair CXM 550 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (€84.89 @ Alternate Belgium) 
Monitor: AOC C24G1 24.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor  (€179.00 @ Alternate Belgium) 
Total: €1253.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-22 13:27 CEST+0200

Ryzen 5700g @ 4.4ghz all cores | Asrock B550M Steel Legend | 3060 | 2x 16gb Micron E 2666 @ 4200mhz cl16 | 500gb WD SN750 | 12 TB HDD | Deepcool Gammax 400 w/ 2 delta 4000rpm push pull | Antec Neo Eco Zen 500w

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor £161.58 @ Aria PC
CPU Cooler Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black 55 CFM CPU Cooler £64.98 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard £99.99 @ Amazon UK
Memory Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory £92.99 @ Amazon UK
Storage ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £138.97 @ CCL Computers
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £53.70 @ CCL Computers
Video Card PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB Red Dragon Video Card £379.97 @ CCL Computers
Case Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case £103.06 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply £94.99 @ Box Limited
Monitor Asus VG279Q 27.0" 1920x1080 144 Hz Monitor £278.99 @ CCL Computers
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £1469.22
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-22 12:34 BST+0100  

 

Desktop: Intel Core i9-9900K | ASUS Strix Z390-F | G.Skill Trident Z Neo 2x16GB @ 3200MHz CL14 | EVGA GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER XC Ultra | Corsair RM650x | Fractal Design Define R6

Laptop: 2018 Apple MacBook Pro 13"  --  i5-8259U | 8GB LPDDR3 | 512GB NVMe

Peripherals: Leopold FC660C w/ Topre Silent 45g | Logitech MX Master 3 & Razer Basilisk X HyperSpeed | HIFIMAN HE400se & iFi ZEN DAC | Audio-Technica AT2020USB+

Display: Gigabyte G34WQC

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17 minutes ago, Morgiee said:

I'm looking to do a stable overclock on cpu and gpu so will want to go watercooling for cpu and with gpu unless the gpu in question has good air cooling as standard. 

For this budget, water coolers isn't preferable. Decent air coolers will perform as well as water coolers and save you lots of money.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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With a 3700X and 1440p monitor. 

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£262.06 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler  (£37.73 @ Overclockers.co.uk) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£74.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Crucial P1 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£101.59 @ CCL Computers) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£53.70 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon RX 5700 XT 8 GB GAMING OC Video Card  (£389.97 @ CCL Computers) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Q300L MicroATX Mini Tower Case  (£47.17 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Super Flower Leadex III Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply  (£89.99 @ Currys PC World) 
Monitor: Pixio PX7P 27.0" 2560x1440 165 Hz Monitor  (£399.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Total: £1547.17
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor  (£262.08 @ Amazon UK) 
CPU Cooler: Gelid Solutions Phantom CPU Cooler  (£38.00 @ Amazon UK) 
Motherboard: MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  (£89.99 @ Amazon UK) 
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  (£74.98 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Silicon Power 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  (£128.07 @ Amazon UK) 
Storage: Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  (£53.70 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card  (£499.98 @ Technextday) 
Case: Cooler Master MasterBox NR400 (w/o ODD) MicroATX Mid Tower Case  (£59.99 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply  (£64.99 @ Box Limited) 
Monitor: Samsung LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor  (£259.81 @ Senetic) 
Total: £1531.59
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-22 13:32 BST+0100

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600X Heatsink: Gelid Phantom Black GPU: Palit RTX 3060 Ti Dual RAM: Corsair DDR4 2x8GB 3000Mhz mobo: Asus X570-P case: Fractal Design Define C PSU: Superflower Leadex Gold 650W

 

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1 hour ago, Fasauceome said:

For this budget, water coolers isn't preferable. Decent air coolers will perform as well as water coolers and save you lots of money.

Thanks yeah my consern was if its in a fairy enclosed office desk setup ventilation would be restricted with fans so was thinking logically that watercoling would be better for enclosed setup? Could be wrong like. Need to get a pic of we're it's going and talk to him about it 

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2 minutes ago, Morgiee said:

Thanks yeah my consern was if its in a fairy enclosed office desk setup ventilation would be restricted with fans so was thinking logically that watercoling would be better for enclosed setup? Could be wrong like. Need to get a pic of we're it's going and talk to him about it 

You need airflow for water cooling too, since it uses a radiator.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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Thanks everyone for their build suggestions. It's great and well in budget. Alot of the suggestions are the same like processor, memory and psu. However he wants this to last him as long as possible and won't get used loads its an as and when pc for his downtime from work. But doesn't want it to be sluggish. I'm liking the idea of rtx cards for detail on graphics and for future games. What you all think? As for psu would 550w be enough? Also like the idea of OC of graphics to squeeze as much performance as safely possible and to help for future gaming 👍

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1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

You need airflow for water cooling too, since it uses a radiator.

This is very true. So will he need front and rear ventilation space or will it have to be front back and top space? 

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19 minutes ago, Morgiee said:

This is very true. So will he need front and rear ventilation space or will it have to be front back and top space? 

I can't think of a case that lacks rear ventilation, so what's important is to get a case with a good mesh front so it can breathe

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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On 4/22/2020 at 2:38 PM, Fasauceome said:

 

 

On 4/22/2020 at 3:01 PM, Fasauceome said:

I can't think of a case that lacks rear ventilation, so what's important is to get a case with a good mesh front so it can breathe

Soo to add a spanner to the work. He wants the case to sit horizontal on the top of his office desk. However how tall are they going to be to fit everything in? 

 

What horizontal cases are out there that you would recommend? 

 

Thanks

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24 minutes ago, Morgiee said:

 

Soo to add a spanner to the work. He wants the case to sit horizontal on the top of his office desk. However how tall are they going to be to fit everything in? 

 

What horizontal cases are out there that you would recommend? 

 

Thanks

There's "horizontal," then there's small form factor. Is there a volume that's being targeted? 

Could do something like this:

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor £262.77 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler Gelid Solutions Phantom CPU Cooler £38.00 @ Amazon UK
Motherboard MSI B450M MORTAR MAX Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard £89.99 @ Amazon UK
Memory Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £74.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage Silicon Power 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £128.07 @ Amazon UK
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £54.78 @ Aria PC
Video Card Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB WINDFORCE OC 3X Video Card £499.93 @ More Computers
Case Thermaltake Core V21 MicroATX Mini Tower Case £67.76 @ Amazon UK
Power Supply Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply £64.99 @ Box Limited
Monitor Samsung LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor £280.28 @ Senetic
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £1561.55
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 01:32 BST+0100  

 

or go much, much smaller:

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor £262.77 @ Amazon UK
CPU Cooler ARCTIC Liquid Freezer II 120 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler £54.99 @ AWD-IT
Motherboard Gigabyte B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard £110.99 @ Box Limited
Memory Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory £74.98 @ Amazon UK
Storage Silicon Power 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive £128.07 @ Amazon UK
Storage Seagate Barracuda Compute 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive £54.78 @ Aria PC
Video Card MSI GeForce RTX 2070 SUPER 8 GB VENTUS OC Video Card £489.99 @ Box Limited
Case Silverstone SG13 Mini ITX Tower Case £51.86 @ SmartTeck.co.uk
Power Supply Corsair TXM Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply £64.99 @ Box Limited
Monitor Samsung LC27JG50QQNZA 27.0" 2560x1440 144 Hz Monitor £280.28 @ Senetic
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total £1573.70
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-24 01:34 BST+0100  

 

 

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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