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I want to correct my mistake, is this upgrade good enough...?

Theryer
By Theryer
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In 2017 i was very inexperienced and i commited one of the worst sins when it comes to PC building: i chose my "main" parts and left everything else in the hands of a system integrator in my city.

Lo and behold, i got myself this abomination:

  • i7-7700 non-K

  • 2400mhZ bargain bin Ballistix ram

  • Cheap Gigabyte H270 motherboard with shitty software support

  • Gigabyte GTX 1070 (now upgraded to Gigabyte RTX 2070)

  • Unrated ThermalTake PSU (now upgraded to Corsair TX750 80+ gold)

  • A full tower case way too big for my needs (Cosair Obsidian 750D)

I feel like i learned a whole lot after that and i want to correct my past mistake. Is this a good upgrade or at least something more respectable?

  • Ryzen 5 3600X (186€)

  • G.skill Trident RGB 16gb 3200MHz (133€)

  • ASUS ROG STRIX B450F (127€)

  • NZXT H510 Elite (150€)

I'm skeptical about the motherboard, i really don't want to spend more than that on one but i'd like something that supports 2nd Gen Ryzen natively...

Grand total: about 600€ (i'm buying my parts in Italy, from a local store that has cheaper prices than Amazon)

Note: Yes, i am one of those people. Yes, i value looks more than thermals and raw performance (a bit). RGB is love, RGB is life!

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I can't really tell why the B450F is so beloved, I just noticed that nearly every Ryzen parts list is made with it. It's really not that special, and you should get a motherboard that's guaranteed compatible:

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor €186.00 @ Amazon Italia
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard €124.02 @ Amazon Italia
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory €121.89 @ Alternate Italia
Case NZXT H510 Elite ATX Mid Tower Case  
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €431.91
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-19 13:47 CEST+0200  

 

The price on that 3600X looks good, so you should definitely get that and the case from this website. Here's a potentially cheaper price on the ram.

I WILL find your ITX build thread, and I WILL recommend the SIlverstone Sugo SG13B

 

Primary PC:

i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

How many watts do I need? ATX 3.0 & PCIe 5.0 spec, PSU misconceptions, protections explained, group reg is bad

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor €298.00 @ Amazon Italia
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard €124.02 @ Amazon Italia
Memory Crucial Ballistix 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory €107.99 @ Amazon Italia
Case Fractal Design Focus G ATX Mid Tower Case €69.28 @ Amazon Italia
Case Fan ARCTIC P12 PWM PST(5-pack) 56.3 CFM 120 mm Fans €27.99 @ Amazon Italia
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total €627.28
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-04-19 13:47 CEST+0200  

nzxt h510 has bad airflow, this has pretty good airflow. 3600x is very little upgrade to that i7, 3700x will be noticable better in heavy threaded task and games.

b450-F has VRM issues, get that msi board instaed.

QUOTE ME  FOR ANSWER.

 

Main PC:

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|Ryzen 7 3700x, OC to 4.2ghz @1.3V, 67C, or 4.4ghz @1.456V, 87C || Asus strix 5700 XT, +50 core, +50 memory, +50 power (not a great overclocker) || Asus Strix b550-A || G.skill trident Z Neo rgb 32gb 3600mhz cl16-19-19-19-39, oc to 3733mhz with the same timings || Cooler Master ml360 RGB AIO || Phanteks P500A Digital || Thermaltake ToughPower grand RGB750w 80+gold || Samsung 850 250gb and Adata SX 6000 Lite 500gb || Toshiba 5400rpm 1tb || Asus Rog Theta 7.1 || Asus Rog claymore || Asus Gladius 2 origin gaming mouse || Monitor 1 Asus 1080p 144hz || Monitor 2 AOC 1080p 75hz || 

Test Rig.

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| Ryzen 5 3400G || Gigabyte b450 S2H || Hyper X fury 2x4gb 2666mhz cl 16 ||Stock cooler || Antec NX100 || Silverstone essential 400w || Transgend SSD 220s 480gb ||

Just Sold

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| i3 9100F || Msi Gaming X gtx 1050 TI || MSI Z390 A-Pro || Kingston 1x16gb 2400mhz cl17 || Stock cooler || Kolink Horizon RGB || Corsair CV 550w || Pny CS900 120gb ||

 

Tier lists for building a PC.

 

Motherboard tier list. Tier A for overclocking 5950x. Tier B for overclocking 5900x, Tier C for overclocking 5800X. Tier D for overclocking 5600X. Tier F for 4/6 core Cpus at stock. Tier E avoid.

(Also case airflow matter or if you are using Downcraft air cooler)

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Gpu tier list. Rtx 3000 and RX 6000 not included since not so many reviews. Tier S for Water cooling. Tier A and B for overcloking. Tier C stock and Tier D avoid.

( You can overclock Tier C just fine, but it can get very loud, that is why it is not recommended for overclocking, same with tier D)

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Psu tier List. Tier A for Rtx 3000, Vega and RX 6000. Tier B For anything else. Tier C cheap/IGPU. Tier D and E avoid.

(RTX 3000/ RX 6000 Might run just fine with higher wattage tier B unit, Rtx 3070 runs fine with tier B units)

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Cpu cooler tier list. Tier 1&2 for power hungry Cpus with Overclock. Tier 3&4 for overclocking Ryzen 3,5,7 or lower power Intel Cpus. Tier 5 for overclocking low end Cpus or 4/6 core Ryzen. Tier 6&7 for stock. Tier 8&9 Ryzen stock cooler performance. Do not waste your money!

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Storage tier List. Tier A for Moving files/  OS. Tier B for OS/Games. Tier C for games. Tier D budget Pcs. Tier E if on sale not the worst but not good.

(With a grain of salt, I use tier C for OS myself)

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Case Tier List. Work In Progress. Most Phanteks airflow series cases already done!

Ask me anything :)

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If it was me, I would go for the standard Ryzen 5 3600 and get slighly quicker ram.

 

I am running the 3600 with 3600mhz ram. I looked at the increase of performance vs cost on the 3600 to the 3600x and it just didn't make sense to me. The difference in performance is under 3% , but the difference is cost is almost 21% (here in the UK anyway).

 

So I would use that extra money for 3600 speed ram ideally.

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