Pc underperforms GTX 1070TI Ryzen 5 1600

[Mark30031]

Ryzen 5 1600

GTX 1070TI Drivers updated and tried DDU + reinstall

GA-AB350M-D3H lastest bios update

GX500 Window Case

Antec Neo eco modular 550w 80+bronze

Gskill Ripjaws 3200mhz 2x8 Running In Dual

No viruses or malware

Temps under stress test : CPU max voltage 1.4-1.42 Temp : 75C max

GPU - 1.070v max 65c max

 

[Senzelian]

Which application or game?

What are your average FPS? (if it's for gaming)

[Mark30031]

Just now, Senzelian said:

Which application or game?

What are your average FPS? (if it's for gaming)

All games on 1080p Lowest settings :

Rainbow six siege - 120 drops to 90 sometimes

Apex legends -  80-100

CSGO even can't go over 200 or 160

PUBG is redicilous around 70

all games on lowest settings

[Fasauceome]

10 minutes ago, Mark30031 said:

All games on 1080p Lowest settings :

Rainbow six siege - 120 drops to 90 sometimes

Apex legends -  80-100

CSGO even can't go over 200 or 160

PUBG is redicilous around 70

all games on lowest settings

Those results seem normal for first gen ryzen

[Mark30031]

1 minute ago, Fasauceome said:

Those results seem normal for first gen ryzen

oh really is that CPU really that bad, so Ryzen 5 3600 should be MUCH better right ?

[Fasauceome]

Just now, Mark30031 said:

oh really is that CPU really that bad, so Ryzen 5 3600 should be MUCH better right ?

Yeah first gen ryzen struggles quite a bit in high refresh rate gaming.

[steelo]

5 minutes ago, Mark30031 said:

oh really is that CPU really that bad, so Ryzen 5 3600 should be MUCH better right ?

Its a decent cpu but it is 3 years old now. What kind of fps are you expecting?

[Mark30031]

1 minute ago, steelo said:

Its a decent cpu but it is 3 years old now. What kind of fps are you expecting?

like in games like R6S which aren't demanding I guess, maybe 144fps minimum if I'm on lowest settings?

[steelo]

Just now, Mark30031 said:

like in games like R6S which aren't demanding I guess, maybe 144fps minimum if I'm on lowest settings?

I think you're probably limited with that cpu, especially if it doesnt take advantage of multiple cores.

[Mark30031]

Just now, steelo said:

I think you're probably limited with that cpu, especially if it doesnt take advantage of multiple cores.

this guy here gets much more fps on Ultra settings

[JoostinOnline]

4 minutes ago, Mark30031 said:

oh really is that CPU really that bad

That's not really bad.

5 minutes ago, Mark30031 said:

so Ryzen 5 3600 should be MUCH better right ?

It will be better, but I think your expectations are too high.

[steelo]

7 minutes ago, Mark30031 said:

this guy here gets much more fps on Ultra settings

Could be many factors, drivers, certain graphics options turned off, etc...144hz is kind of a tall order. I have a hard time believing he is getting those kinds of framerates on ultra with a ryzen 5 1600 and a 1650 super thats roughly on par with a rx 580...I could be wrong though.

[Mark30031]

5 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

That's not really bad.

It will be better, but I think your expectations are too high.

My expectations are to get minimum stable 144 on lowest settings on competetive games, will my rig if I upgrade to 3600 should hold it good? GTX 1070TI OC'd is like an Stock 1080?

[steelo]

1 minute ago, Mark30031 said:

My expectations are to get minimum stable 144 on lowest settings on competetive games, will my rig if I upgrade to 3600 should hold it good? GTX 1070TI OC'd is like an Stock 1080?

On 1080 resolution it will better be able to feed your gpu...

[Mark30031]

Just now, steelo said:

On 1080 resolution it will better be able to feed your gpu...

To feed? what do you mean ^^?

[JoostinOnline]

1 minute ago, Mark30031 said:

My expectations are to get minimum stable 144 on lowest settings on competetive games, will my rig if I upgrade to 3600 should hold it good? GTX 1070TI OC'd is like an Stock 1080?

It should do that.  You don't need to OC the 10u0 Ti at all. Even a 1060 could render that many frames. The problem is your CPU can't prepare them in time. Not many CPU's can.

[steelo]

1 minute ago, Mark30031 said:

To feed? what do you mean ^^?

1080 resolution is more cpu intensive...a r5 3600 should better handle these resolutions. Basically, your cpu just cant keep up...

[JoostinOnline]

Just now, steelo said:

1080 resolution is more cpu intensive...a r5 3600 should better handle these resolutions

No it's not. The resolution is irrelevant for the CPU.

[Mark30031]

2 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

It should do that.  You don't need to OC the 10u0 Ti at all. Even a 1060 could render that many frames. The problem is your CPU can't prepare them in time. Not many CPU's can.

So I should Upgrade to R5 3600? do you recommend doing that?

[steelo]

3 minutes ago, JoostinOnline said:

No it's not. The resolution is irrelevant for the CPU.

The next time you play a game, watch your cpu usage on lower resolutions vs higher ones. 1080 resolution will result in higher cpu usage vs 2k or 4k, which utilizes the gpu more to maintain frame rates... It absolutely is relevant.

[steelo]

5 minutes ago, Mark30031 said:

So I should Upgrade to R5 3600? do you recommend doing that?

A 2600 probably wouldnt be worth it...a 3600 should, in theory provide a decent fps 'boost'...or you could wait a few months for the next gen ryzen cpus...

[JoostinOnline]

41 minutes ago, Mark30031 said:

So I should Upgrade to R5 3600? do you recommend doing that?

If you can't stand your frame rates, then yes.

 

40 minutes ago, steelo said:

The next time you play a game, watch your cpu usage on lower resolutions vs higher ones. 1080 resolution will result in higher cpu usage vs 2k or 4k, which utilizes the gpu more to maintain frame rates... It absolutely is relevant.

Yes, but that's because it's being GPU bound. Correlation isn't causation. If you're CPU bound, the resolution doesn't matter.

 

Also, 2K doesn't mean 1440p.