2070 Super vs 5700XT for a 1660ti Upgrade?

[wojoxx98]

Hey Y'all, 

 

I built my rig around this time last year, below are my current specs.

 

• CPU
  Ryzen 5 2600x, stock cooler
• Motherboard
  MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC
• RAM
  Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB DDR4 3200MHz
• GPU
  GIGABYTE Windforce OC GTX 1660ti
• Case
  Rosewill Spectra C100
• Storage
  Kingston 240GB SSD, Seagate Barracuda 2TB HDD 7200 RPM
• PSU
  Corsair CX 650 Watt 80 Plus Bronze

   

  I wanted a gaming rig something terrible, but didn't have as much money as I would have liked to, so I cheap got cheap in a few areas, mainly the GPU. This worked out fine for a while, as I was playing games like BeamNG Drive and Automation: The Car Company Tycoon Game, nothing crazy. In the past year I have gotten a much better job and started buying some better, AAA games, such as GTA V, Mafia 3, and Far Cry New Dawn. All three of these games run alright, but I struggle to maintain 60 FPS without dropping the settings. Maybe it's just me, but I cringe when I have to lower settings. I want to get the best at 1080p without compromises. My next purchase will most likely be RDR 2, and I know there's no way I'm going to get a relatively steady 60 FPS without really dropping the settings, and I definitely don't want to do that. I am also looking to purchase a nice high refresh rate 1080p monitor, or maybe, but not likely, a 1440p monitor. Therefore, I've decided its time for an upgrade.

   

  I did a quick search on Amazon, there's two 2070S I can get for $499, linked here.

   

  https://www.amazon.com/GIGABYTE-GeForce-Windforce-Graphics-GV-N207SWF3OC-8GD/dp/B07WN6RVHH/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=2070s&qid=1584921157&sr=8-6

  https://www.amazon.com/ZOTAC-GeForce-Graphics-IceStorm-Zt-T20710E-10M/dp/B07XSPWMP9/ref=sr_1_7?dchild=1&keywords=2070s&qid=1584921183&sr=8-7

   

  I also looked at some 5700XT's ranging from $369 to $419, linked here.

   

  https://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-Graphics-256-Bit-Gv-R57XTGAMING-OC-8GD/dp/B07W95D5V3/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=5700xt&qid=1584921238&sr=8-1

  https://www.amazon.com/XFX-1905MHz-Express-Graphics-Rx-57XT8OFF6/dp/B07WRYC3MT/ref=sr_1_6?dchild=1&keywords=5700xt&qid=1584921349&sr=8-6\

  https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Gaming-Radeon-Boost-Clock/dp/B07WNSP41M/ref=sr_1_8?dchild=1&keywords=5700xt&qid=1584921349&sr=8-8

   

  What I know already is that the 5700XT is 10 to 20 percent slower, but 25 or more percent cheaper that the 2070S. That would make me inclined to go with the 5700XT. But I know they had a lot of launch issues, such as overheating and bad drivers. Is this still the case? Also, my motherboard is only a B450, so it doesn't have PCI E 4.0. Does that have any kind of performance difference? 

   

  It seems like the 2070S is a pretty universally well liked card, and seems to have less issues. I could care less about ray tracing though. So would the chance of it being easier to just plug and play make it work the extra $100+? I have the money to buy either, and am kind of leaning towards the 5700XT, but I just don't want to spend so much money and be fighting it all the way to get it working right. Remember, my main goal is to play anything maxed at 1080p, 60 FPS. Anything past that is just a nice bonus. I know this is probably overkill, but I'd like my next upgrade to be 2 or 3 years from now, not in less than one year like with my 1660ti. 

   

  Thanks for any advice!

   

[Jurrunio]

PCIe 3 does not drop 5700XT performance, but I prefer 2070S because nothing sucks more than getting a card freshly delivered to work but it doesnt cooperate.

[merco]

Well I recently bought the 5600 xt and it does run perfectly fine. The latest AMD drivers have reportedly fixed a lot of issues for many users. As for the cards running hot, just pick a model that doesn't, since that was a design flaw from specific manufacturers (which some also fixed by now but you might as well avoid them). 

I don't have first hand experience with the 5700 xt of course, so if you want to be on the safe side you might as well go with the 2070 super, which also like you said has better performance than you can find with current AMD cards.

Personally I gave AMD a chance because I found a great deal and I was willing to take the risk, but that is entirely up to you. I also did a fresh windows install because I came from an Nvidia card and I rather do it right once instead of fiddling with the drivers over and over. I don't know how many programs you run, but it takes me 2-3 hours to get set up with everything so I don't really mind it.

26 minutes ago, wojoxx98 said:

doesn't have PCI E 4.0

Currently there is no real difference between the 2 because most GPUs don't use up PCIe 3 bandwidth yet except for special cases. (I recently read about the 5500 xt being wired x8 instead of x16, so it had better performance on PCIe 4)

 

 

[YT_DomDaBomb20]

While that is true a 2070 super May bottleneck the cpu more than a 5700 or 5700xt