CPU waterblock with integrated radiator?

[For Science!]

So I've always wondered that the space gained when replacing a large aircooler with a waterblock is only taken advantage in the form of aesthetics, whereas in theory that space could accomodate a radiator. Does anybody know of any CPU waterblocks that have an radiator just on top of it (effectively appearing similar to an aircooler), or alteratively a radiator in a form factor that could be coupled directly to a waterblock.

[emosun]

the radiator would be tiny thus making the cooler more useless than an air cooler

Back in the pentium 3 and 4 days you could find 80-92mm single radiators but again these were pretty useless even back then

[Fasauceome]

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The idea doesn't hold so well because the advantage of a water cooler is to move the cooling surface away from the CPU. Putting it all on top doesn't really help in any way.

[For Science!]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

 

 

Just now, Fasauceome said:

 

 

This would be of course in addition to the normal radiators in the system, take my systems for example

 

 

Both systems have gaping space on top of the CPU block area that I have had to fill with tubing for aesthetics purposes. There is enough space there to accomodate, say for example 2x 120 radiators + fans in a NH-D15 like layout. The air can be pushed out though a rear exhaust, and would be 240 mm additional radiator space on top of the 240 mm and 360 mm already present.

 

This can obviously be achieved somewhat already by using a rods extending from the rear fan and "suspend" the 120 mm radiator in the middle of the chassis.

 

Yes, the idea of watercooling is the ability to move the heat, but it is also the ability to dissipate it over a large surface area. So gaining surface area by utilizing the space above the CPU block can't be a bad idea.

 

[emosun]

1 minute ago, For Science! said:

So gaining surface area by utilizing the space above the CPU block can't be a bad idea.

so how many links are you going to put in this chain before it becomes a bad idea then?

i'm sure if my car had 3 radiators instead of one it would never overheat but I'm adding all kinds of new issues aren't I?

[For Science!]

Just now, emosun said:

so how many links are you going to put in this chain before it becomes a bad idea then?

In my experience, watercooling fittings are reliable enough that the number of links are not ever going to be of concern within any standard loop. 4~6 radiators, 3~5 waterblocks, 1~2 pumps, is not particularly unusual.

[For Science!]

14 minutes ago, yaboistar said:

even hanging a 120mm radiator off a cpu socket is a fair bit of weight.

Yes, you raise a valid point, the weight would need to be supported elsewhere to help this, perhaps from the rear fan mount or chassis top....

[emosun]

2 minutes ago, For Science! said:

4~6 radiators, 3~5 waterblocks, 1~2 pumps, is not particularly unusual.

well if you wanna stuff 6 radiators in there then nobody here is gonna stop you although don't be surprised if people wonder why you needed 6 of them when others only needed one.

You could remove the second gpu seeing as it's not doing much anyway and that'll open up some room for a single large radiator. Although I'm a retro games enthusiast myself and also like playing with two gpu's for fun sometimes so maybe that's not an option

[For Science!]

1 minute ago, emosun said:

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If you have a way of fitting two padded cryo-EM half maps with a voxel size of 450 onto a single card 11 GB of VRAM  during the last iteration of 3D volume refinement without crashing, let me know. That would mean the second GPU would no longer needed and the whole structural biology community would be very grateful towards your contributions.

[emosun]

4 minutes ago, For Science! said:

If you have a way of fitting two padded cryo-EM half maps with a voxel size of 450 onto a single card 11 GB of VRAM  during the last iteration of 3D volume refinement without crashing, let me know. That would mean the second GPU would no longer needed and the whole structural biology community would be very grateful towards your contributions.

ah see definitely got me there. I guess I'm just too stupid tbh.

Anyway , the adding 6 radiators to a small case build seems like a good idea. My stupid ideas of just using a bigger case or a single large radiator would definitely not be good enough for someone in the structural biology community. Just follow the opposite of K.I.S.S and that should do quite well.

[For Science!]

14 minutes ago, emosun said:

I guess I'm just too stupid tbh.

Don't be too hard on yourself.

 

Anyway the original question was simple and you've demonstrated to me that you have not seen such a waterblock, and that is fine, thank you for your contribution. 

 

As for whether I need two GPUs (yes, I do) and whether there are any restrictions on form factor (yes, there are), and all other concerns you may have are outside the scope of this thread and did not need to have been raised in the first place.

[AngryBeaver]

2 hours ago, For Science! said:

So I've always wondered that the space gained when replacing a large aircooler with a waterblock is only taken advantage in the form of aesthetics, whereas in theory that space could accomodate a radiator. Does anybody know of any CPU waterblocks that have an radiator just on top of it (effectively appearing similar to an aircooler), or alteratively a radiator in a form factor that could be coupled directly to a waterblock.

There use to be some gimmicky ones similar to this 6-10 years ago..

 

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[Neggy-Z]

You could always make up some custom brackets to hang the rads from the top fans/rads, this way there's no extra stress or added weight to the cpu and it's socket.

[Rider loves linustechtips]

On 3/5/2020 at 1:27 PM, For Science! said:

So I've always wondered that the space gained when replacing a large aircooler with a waterblock is only taken advantage in the form of aesthetics, whereas in theory that space could accomodate a radiator. Does anybody know of any CPU waterblocks that have an radiator just on top of it (effectively appearing similar to an aircooler), or alteratively a radiator in a form factor that could be coupled directly to a waterblock.

 

[Rider loves linustechtips]

 

 

 

Can I have a RGB computer?!?!?!

[Beerzerker]

1 hour ago, Rider loves linustechtips said:

 

 

 

Can I have a RGB computer?!?!?!

 

Yes you can..... But of what revelance is this to the topic?

On topic:

I don't believe such a setup would be worth it in relation to the gains vs investment but it is a novel ideal.