Ryzen 5 2600x bottlenecking RX5700 XT?

[IndioBravo]

Hi everyone,

 

Is this a sign that my RX5700 XT is being bottlenecked by Ryzen 5 2600x on this specific game (GTA V online)? Global CPU usage is low, but 2 cores are getting hammered apparently. GPU usage is between 70% and 85%. When getting on certain areas, FPS drops horribly and GPU usage and clock speeds go down the floor.

 

I can confirm it is not thermal trottling (CPU 75C, GPU 80C).

 

 

 

My specs:

 

MOBO: Gaming Plus B450

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212

GPU: Sapphire Pulse RX 5700XT

Monitor: Asus mg28qr

Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 5 (3 intake 1 exhuast)

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x8 @3000Mhz

SSD1 (OS): Samsung EVO 500GB

SSD2: Kingstone SSDnow 120GB

HDD1: WD 3TB green

PSU: Corsair RM650x

[Jurrunio]

What frame rates do you get on average? But yes this game does hammer a few cores much more than others, as expected from an older game.

[IndioBravo]

15 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

What frame rates do you get on average? But yes this game does hammer a few cores much more than others, as expected from an older game.

On average 80-90. But frame drops see 40-50fps. Depends on the locations really, the city is bad. I have almost everything on max settings.

[Jurrunio]

5 minutes ago, Pablo Molina said:

On average 80-90. But frame drops see 40-50fps. Depends on the locations really, the city is bad. I have almost everything on max settings.

Try overclocking? And also reduce pedestrian density

[IndioBravo]

Just now, Jurrunio said:

Try overclocking? And also reduce pedestrian density

It is automatically OC with Radeon Software (2130MHz max)

 

Ok I´ll try, but is it the CPU?, I don´t see any other piece of hardware getting even past 50% of its capacity. Aside from GPU, which gets lazy (40-60% usage) on frame drops. And ceratainly there is no 100% usage on any piece of hardware.

 

80+ frames get the GPU from 80% to 95% usage.

[2FA]

6 minutes ago, Pablo Molina said:

And ceratainly there is no 100% usage on any piece of hardware.

Then nothing is bottlenecked. Bottlenecking is when one component is at 100% usage and the other is much lower.

[Jurrunio]

6 minutes ago, Pablo Molina said:

It is automatically OC with Radeon Software (2130MHz max)

I'm actually talking about the CPU

 

7 minutes ago, Pablo Molina said:

Ok I´ll try, but is it the CPU?, I don´t see any other piece of hardware getting even past 50% of its capacity. Aside from GPU, which gets lazy (40-60% usage) on frame drops. And ceratainly there is no 100% usage on any piece of hardware.

Most likely. You should also use latest chipset drivers, BIOS and try turn off SMT

[IndioBravo]

2 minutes ago, 2FA said:

Then nothing is bottlenecked. Bottlenecking is when one component is at 100% usage and the other is much lower.

But then what could be causing the unexplained GPU clock and usage drop?

[IndioBravo]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

I'm actually talking about the CPU

 

Most likely. You should also use latest chipset drivers, BIOS and try turn off SMT

Oh I see, it could because it is constantly working at 3900MHz with max peaks at 4200MHz, I´d have to learn how to do it though.

 

I have the latest BIOS update. What is SMT?

[Jurrunio]

Just now, Pablo Molina said:

What is SMT?

simultaneous multithreading, same concept as Intel's hyperthreading

[SkilledRebuilds]

12 minutes ago, 2FA said:

Then nothing is bottlenecked. Bottlenecking is when one component is at 100% usage and the other is much lower.

The THREADS themselves can be a bottleneck.

If a game uses only 2 cores 4 threads and is MAXING THEM.

 

You wont have 100% CPU, but the threads will be, causing GPU usage drops when the Thread has little to no headroom.

 

GtaV is also VERY VERY PRONE to usage drops as its online component. This is very common to have underperforming systens it feels like its your machine but its the game itself.

 

Check forumsz its rife with performance issues ESP....ESP ESP in ONLINE modes.

 

[IndioBravo]

7 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

simultaneous multithreading, same concept as Intel's hyperthreading

Excelent thanks, I´ll try turning it off from the BIOS

[IndioBravo]

4 minutes ago, SkilledRebuilds said:

The THREADS themselves can be a bottleneck.

If a game uses only 2 cores 4 threads and is MAXING THEM.

 

You wont have 100% CPU, but the threads will be, causing GPU usage drops when the Thread has little to no headroom.

 

GtaV is also VERY VERY PRONE to usage drops as its online component. This is very common to have underperforming systens it feels like its your machine but its the game itself.

 

Check forumsz its rife with performance issues ESP....ESP ESP in ONLINE modes.

 

I am also getting this same behavior on LoL and R6 Siege. Guessing because they are old games and do what you are describing?

[ZzLy]

7 hours ago, Pablo Molina said:

Hi everyone,

 

Is this a sign that my RX5700 XT is being bottlenecked by Ryzen 5 2600x on this specific game (GTA V online)? Global CPU usage is low, but 2 cores are getting hammered apparently. GPU usage is between 70% and 85%. When getting on certain areas, FPS drops horribly and GPU usage and clock speeds go down the floor.

 

I can confirm it is not thermal trottling (CPU 75C, GPU 80C).

 

 

 

My specs:

 

MOBO: Gaming Plus B450

CPU: Ryzen 5 2600x

CPU Cooler: Hyper 212

GPU: Sapphire Pulse RX 5700XT

Monitor: Asus mg28qr

Case: Cooler Master MasterBox Lite 5 (3 intake 1 exhuast)

RAM: Corsair Vengeance 2x8 @3000Mhz

SSD1 (OS): Samsung EVO 500GB

SSD2: Kingstone SSDnow 120GB

HDD1: WD 3TB green

PSU: Corsair RM650x

It's the games fault for only using 2 cores. Gta 5 is getting pretty old now, it was made back in the day when dual cores were still very common.

[Gohardgrandpa]

6 hours ago, Pablo Molina said:

I am also getting this same behavior on LoL and R6 Siege. Guessing because they are old games and do what you are describing?

Do the in game benchmark with rainbow six siege and see what you get. 
I set everything at max settings and got an avg of 175 fps at 1080p with a ryzen 3600x and rx5700 non xt. 

[IndioBravo]

6 hours ago, Gohardgrandpa said:

Do the in game benchmark with rainbow six siege and see what you get. 
I set everything at max settings and got an avg of 175 fps at 1080p with a ryzen 3600x and rx5700 non xt. 

 

I sat through the bentchmark and it did not drop bellow 144. But I could see a micro stutter from time to time.

[Gohardgrandpa]

@Pablo Molina

What do you have your AA Render scaling and Ambient occlusion set at in your settings?

I set my Ambient Occlusion to SSBC, My AA setting is T-AA, my render scale is at 100% and everything else is at max, i'm running the benchmark now and I'll post my results

 

This kept my GPU pegged at 99%, my cpu stayed around 46% the whole benchmark run