AM4 vs TR4 Motherboards

[JohnGreener]

I am NOT A GAMER!!! BUT, I want to do a computer build from scratch. I am torn between the Ryzen 7 2700X and the Threadripper 1920x. IF I am NOT A GAMER (it's just that in all of my googling on pc builds about 95% are geared towards gamers) but I want a good performance with an eye to the future, which motherboard provides the best upgrade capability and future?? I do want to put an m.2 in to take advantage of the PCIe4 but is it overkill? Sorry of this has been posted b4! 

[Guest]

TR4 is a dead platform, AM4 has at least 1 more CPU it looks like.

That and it sounds like you don't need lanes, so going Threadripper sounds pointless.

Buuuuut... maybe enlighten us as to what your plans are for the computer?

[Jurrunio]

17 minutes ago, JohnGreener said:

I am NOT A GAMER!!

Then what are you?

[Guest]

23 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Then what are you?

[Thirdgen89GTA]

Why are you looking at dead platforms? Further, your budget makes no sense considering that you are willing to spend anywhere from $160 to $210. Look at the Ryzen 3600 or 3600x instead.  You won't find anything else in that price range that performs that well.

 

In this case, since you are so new to building a computer, rather than posting about using chip x or y, I would suggest you post up what you actually want to accomplish with this machine, and how much you are willing to spend.

 

You can learn about what parts are suitable for your needs then.

[JohnGreener]

Boy, I tried to be polite on this board but it seems that most people would like to be snarky.... so sorry to have bothered you all!

[Squirrel724]

What are you looking to do with the computer? TR4 is already a dead platform with 3rd generation Threadrippers using the TRX40 platform instead. AM4 will be getting the 4000 series Ryzen CPUs before being replaced. 

[tech.guru]

TRX40 has more PCIE lanes. this allows the motherboard manufactors to support more PCIE cards and M.2 slots compared to the AM4. in addition many boards include 10GBe

 

in summary

         AM4 is mainstream chipset

        TRX40 is for workstations

 

TR4 is an older socket and isnt forward looking. the high end AM4 processors (3950x etc) actually provide more performance than the older thread rippers with much less power draw. 

 

[Otto_iii]

Get the 2700x and then upgrade to 12 or 16 cores when need be with 3000, or later next year 4000 down the line.  The current (but very hard to get) 16 core 3950x is already insanely good at production tasks, often beating best of Intels HEDT lineup, and likewise a good future proof x570 mobo can be had for $160 (ASUS Prime x570-P), way cheaper then most old thread ripper boards. 


The 3900x already beats the 2920x in production tasks, let alone the 1920x, don't buy into old Threadripper, just get 2700x and upgrade to 3900x or better when need be. 

 

[Thirdgen89GTA]

6 minutes ago, Otto_iii said:

Get the 2700x and then upgrade to 12 or 16 cores when need be with 3000, or later next year 4000 down the line.  The current (but very hard to get) 16 core 3950x is already insanely good at production tasks, often beating best of Intels HEDT lineup, and likewise a good future proof x570 mobo can be had for $160 (ASUS Prime x570-P), way cheaper then most old thread ripper boards. 


The 3900x already beats the 1920x in production tasks, don't buy into old Threadripper, just get 2700x and upgrade to 3900x or better when need be. 

 

Except, I don't agree.  Sure the 2700x is $160, and the 3600 is $190.  But that $30 buys you a whole crap ton more performance.

 

If budget is really in the cards, and a person isn't going to game, a Ryzen 5 3400g might make a better deal.  Its not as powerful as the 2700x by a decent margin.  But it has a GPU built in, so that saves more money.  And the built-in graphics should be good enough to handle just about anything needed for casual consumer desktop, or office work.  And to use your argument, the OP could then save for a GPU/CPU upgrade down the road.  

 

If the OP wants to do any kind of processor intensive stuff the 3600 is the better deal by far.

 

That said, most people don't upgrade a machine for several years.  In my case, I generally end up fork-lift upgrading the system entirely.

[Otto_iii]

15 minutes ago, Thirdgen89GTA said:

Except, I don't agree.  Sure the 2700x is $160, and the 3600 is $190.  But that $30 buys you a whole crap ton more performance.

in none gaming tasks the 2700x is usually superior

the 3400g is a great entry into a gaming system, great budget APU, but it will run like doodoo for production work like video editing, rendering etc, but yeah it would be super cheap entry to ryzen 3000 i guess