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I have a 1050 ti and im now experiencing a lot of bottlenecking with my cpu in cod mw im buying new cpu, mb and ram but i need some advice on what to buy. 

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What's your full system specs? What resolution are you playing the game at? What are expecting from the upgrade? What location are you buying from? What are you looking to spend? Any other things to keep in mind?


EDIT: just to give an idea, you could go for something like this, which is a generally good build for most people:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Best Buy) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.40 @ Amazon) 
Total: $359.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:08 EST-0500

 

But maybe you should reconsider and for example put some more money in a new GPU? All depends on your demands for the system.

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3 minutes ago, minibois said:

What's your full system specs? What resolution are you playing the game at? What are expecting from the upgrade? What location are you buying from? What are you looking to spend? Any other things to keep in mind?


EDIT: just to give an idea, you could go for something like this, which is a generally good build for most people:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($189.99 @ Best Buy) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte B450 AORUS ELITE ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($109.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($59.40 @ Amazon) 
Total: $359.38
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:08 EST-0500

 

But maybe you should reconsider and for example put some more money in a new GPU? All depends on your demands for the system.

This is the pc but i upgraded gpu to 1050 ti but the ram and cpu are 6 y old so its really bad. Im buying it on alternate.be and my budget is around 400 euros. Im playing at 1080p.

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I'd go with this intel 9100f, 32gb ram, 250gb nvme and z390 mobo...$382.45 american green backs before shipping/taxes...less than 400 euros i think.  This will eliminate ALL non-gpu bottlenecks for the next 5 years.

 

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1 minute ago, Stu_Bear said:

I'd go with this intel 9100f, 32gb ram, 250gb nvme and z390 mobo...$382.45 american green backs before shipping/taxes...less than 400 euros i think.  This will eliminate ALL non-gpu bottlenecks for the next 5 years.

 

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i think 32gb of ram is mb too much no id rather put more money into a cpu.

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4 minutes ago, Stu_Bear said:

I'd go with this intel 9100f, 32gb ram

9100f is very poor compared to even a 2600 ryzen, and 32gb is not useful for gaming for the foreseeable future.

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well, there's different thoughts on cpu these days...true that more threads you have the more smooth game play is, but frequency/ipc aids in fps.  A 1050 ti suffers from fps a fair bit...don't ask me how i know.  That said if you decide later to upgrade to a better gpu...you got all the hardware to support it.

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $239.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $110.00 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $434.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:29 EST-0500  

would this be good? I might upgrade gpu to 2070 in one or two years but not sure

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32gb of ram has a very similar effect to gaming as adding more threads to your cpu...it doesn't improve fps to a significant degree...but does make game play smoother.  I do agree with you that it's not required, but from a personal standpoint I won't build or own a pc that doesn't have 32gb of ram going forward...I just feel it's a much deserved safety net/feature.

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11 minutes ago, FatUncle said:

This is the pc but i upgraded gpu to 1050 ti but the ram and cpu are 6 y old so its really bad. Im buying it on alternate.be and my budget is around 400 euros. Im playing at 1080p.

If you want to change platform, you could go for this for a pretty decent value:

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This CPU will get (paired with the right GPU) get really good performance:

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https://www.pcgamesn.com/call-of-duty-modern-warfare/pc-performance-analysis#nn-graph-sheet-1080p-high

 

Although I feel like your GPU is holding you back more than the CPU:

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https://www.techpowerup.com/review/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-benchmark-test-performance-analysis/5.html

 

Just a small snip from this review. The 1060 has of course higher performance than the 1050 Ti, which shows with even the platform upgrade, you wouldn't get 60fps on 1080p.

The cheapest decent RX 590 for example is around 230 euros.

1 minute ago, FatUncle said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $239.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $110.00 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $434.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:29 EST-0500  

would this be good?

That's pretty close to what I would recommend. The 2600 just has a really good value and this game need a ton of CPU power anyways, So that leaves some room for a possible GPU upgrade; which is more likely needed.

You could look at second hand GPU options, which may have a decent value.

 

7 minutes ago, Stu_Bear said:

I'd go with this intel 9100f, 32gb ram, 250gb nvme and z390 mobo...$382.45 american green backs before shipping/taxes...less than 400 euros i think.  This will eliminate ALL non-gpu bottlenecks for the next 5 years.

 

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: Intel Core i3-9100F 3.6 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($87.49 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: ASRock Z390M Pro4 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($114.99 @ Amazon) 
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($109.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung 970 Evo Plus 250 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive  ($69.98 @ Amazon) 
Total: $382.45
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:32 EST-0500

 

This... Just not make sense for a build..

Why 32GB? Why a motherboard that costs more than the CPU? Why an overclocking mobo for a non-overclocking chip? OP didn't ask for a new SSD and it's also not needed.. Plus it's a pretty crap value SSD. Especially in this sort of budget, where a new GPU is actually needed.

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PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/pF3Bgw

CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 2600 3.4 GHz 6-Core Processor  ($119.99 @ Walmart)
Motherboard: MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $324.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:41 EST-0500

 

This is my current build minus the case and GPU.

 

This might work for you ;)

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1 hour ago, Stu_Bear said:

32gb of ram has a very similar effect to gaming as adding more threads to your cpu...it doesn't improve fps to a significant degree...but does make game play smoother.  I do agree with you that it's not required, but from a personal standpoint I won't build or own a pc that doesn't have 32gb of ram going forward...I just feel it's a much deserved safety net/feature.

You do NOT NEED 32GB of memory for gaming. That is just throwing away 50-60 euros that can be spent better elsewhere. Plus if you pick the right motherboard and RAM kit you can upgrade to 32GB should you do something else on your PC where you do need it.

'safety net'/'futureproofing': both just terms to say "I don't know what you need in 3 years, so let's just waste money". Of course you don't know what is needed in a couple years, but that is not a good reason to spend too much money now when it can easily be upgraded later.

 

'safety net'.. And you include a 4-core CPU. Are you actually trying to make people confused on what they should get?

 

"We're all in this together, might as well be friends" Tom, Toonami.

 

mini eLiXiVy: my open source 65% mechanical PCB, a build log, PCB anatomy and discussing open source licenses: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1366493-elixivy-a-65-mechanical-keyboard-build-log-pcb-anatomy-and-how-i-open-sourced-this-project/

 

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11 minutes ago, FatUncle said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $239.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $110.00 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $434.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:29 EST-0500  

would this be good? I might upgrade gpu to 2070 in one or two years but not sure

toughts on this?

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1 minute ago, FatUncle said:

toughts on this?

mb and ram are good. for the cpu, go with the 3600 instead, much cheaper for the same performance.

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15 minutes ago, FatUncle said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $239.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $110.00 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $434.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:29 EST-0500  

would this be good? I might upgrade gpu to 2070 in one or two years but not sure

 I was actually going to recommend something very similar so  I think your solidly on the right track.

 

Edit:  Just noticed you chose a Ryzen 3600X.  Honestly save yourself a bit of money and go with the 3600 non-X instead.

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6 minutes ago, Stu_Bear said:

32gb of ram has a very similar effect to gaming as adding more threads to your cpu...it doesn't improve fps to a significant degree...but does make game play smoother.  I do agree with you that it's not required, but from a personal standpoint I won't build or own a pc that doesn't have 32gb of ram going forward...I just feel it's a much deserved safety net/feature.

Nope. It doesn't. No difference between 32GB and 16GB in gaming, even though my 16GB kit is slower I still didn't notice a difference. Only place you'd see it is in something like Star Citizen or some modded/very niche titles that actually use shit tons of RAM. For normal gaming there's no need for that much (I literally only have a 32GB kit because I didn't wanna go for lower than 8GB DIMMS). 

 

6 minutes ago, minibois said:

This... Just not make sense for a build..

Why 32GB? Why a motherboard that costs more than the CPU? Why an overclocking mobo for a non-overclocking chip? OP didn't ask for a new SSD and it's also not needed.. Plus it's a pretty crap value SSD. Especially in this sort of budget, where a new GPU is actually needed.

^^^ Basically this. Especially since the OP is looking for bang/buck, which Ryzen preeetty much beats Intel on at every single price point from $50 on up to $500. Intel only becomes competitive very, very high up in high refresh rate gaming stuff, in HEDT with the recently slashed X299 pricing, and sometimes on the used market (usually old HEDT which offers higher core counts and the option of cheaper used RAM, though the motherboards for those platforms can be hard to find for a decent price). 
 

1 minute ago, FatUncle said:

toughts on this?

Drop to a R5 3600, get 3200Mhz CL14 or 3600Mhz CL16 RAM, whichever is cheaper (probably the 3600Mhz CL16, Ripjaws V kits at that speed have been pretty cheap lately). Manually tweaking the timings on either will make for a good performance boost. The B450 Tomahawk is a great board, though if you spend a few more bucks for the MAX that'd be better (guaranteed to ship with a compatible BIOS, has a larger BIOS storage chip for newer, beefier versions and such, other than that it's the same). 

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Main PC 

CPU: i9 7980XE @4.5GHz/1.22v/-2 AVX offset 

Cooler: EKWB Supremacy Block - custom loop w/360mm +280mm rads 

Motherboard: EVGA X299 Dark 

RAM:4x8GB HyperX Predator DDR4 @3200Mhz CL16 

GPU: Nvidia FE 2060 Super/Corsair HydroX 2070 FE block 

Storage:  1TB MP34 + 1TB 970 Evo + 500GB Atom30 + 250GB 960 Evo 

Optical Drives: LG WH14NS40 

PSU: EVGA 1600W T2 

Case & Fans: Corsair 750D Airflow - 3x Noctua iPPC NF-F12 + 4x Noctua iPPC NF-A14 PWM 

OS: Windows 11

 

Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel)

Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

Mobile/Work Devices: 2020 M1 MacBook Air (work computer) - iPhone 13 Pro Max - Apple Watch S3

 

Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, 128GB SD card swap, running Rockbox), Nintendo Switch

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5 minutes ago, FatUncle said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $239.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $110.00 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $434.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:29 EST-0500  

would this be good? I might upgrade gpu to 2070 in one or two years but not sure

I think you are on solid footing there, but I'd suggest the non-x version...and still suggest 32gb of ram...your amd processor will thank you for it.  Below total is $373...I'd still want to add an NVMe drive for $75 though...

 

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Just now, Stu_Bear said:

I think you are on solid footing there, but I'd suggest the non-x version...and still suggest 32gb of ram...your amd processor will thank you for it.  Below total is $373...I'd still want to add an NVMe drive for $75 though...

 

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no im not going 32 gb its too much and i was looking in my country is the intel core i5 9600k only 20 bucks more expensive than ryzen 3600.

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2 minutes ago, FatUncle said:

no im not going 32 gb its too much and i was looking in my country is the intel core i5 9600k only 20 bucks more expensive than ryzen 3600.

ryzen 3600 is on par with intel i7 9700k. so unless you can get the 9700k at the same price as the r5 3600, the 3600 is still the better option

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1 minute ago, FatUncle said:

no im not going 32 gb its too much and i was looking in my country is the intel core i5 9600k only 20 bucks more expensive than ryzen 3600.

3600 will be better. 9600K needs more cooling, though it can OC to 5-5.1Ghz. But if you run discord and the like in the background, you'll still push higher max fps, but your 1% lows will be oofies (you'll drop more frames, gaming experience won't be as smooth). The 3600 is about on par with a stock 8700K, so it's basically a 9600K with hyperthreading performance wise. If you're gaming at very high refresh rates the 9600K could be an option, but for 144Hz or lower the 3600 is going to be the best choice. Basically as fast, runs cooler, is cheaper, better for multitasking. 

Intel HEDT and Server platform enthusiasts: Intel HEDT Xeon/i7 Megathread 

 

Main PC 

CPU: i9 7980XE @4.5GHz/1.22v/-2 AVX offset 

Cooler: EKWB Supremacy Block - custom loop w/360mm +280mm rads 

Motherboard: EVGA X299 Dark 

RAM:4x8GB HyperX Predator DDR4 @3200Mhz CL16 

GPU: Nvidia FE 2060 Super/Corsair HydroX 2070 FE block 

Storage:  1TB MP34 + 1TB 970 Evo + 500GB Atom30 + 250GB 960 Evo 

Optical Drives: LG WH14NS40 

PSU: EVGA 1600W T2 

Case & Fans: Corsair 750D Airflow - 3x Noctua iPPC NF-F12 + 4x Noctua iPPC NF-A14 PWM 

OS: Windows 11

 

Display: LG 27UK650-W (4K 60Hz IPS panel)

Mouse: EVGA X17

Keyboard: Corsair K55 RGB

 

Mobile/Work Devices: 2020 M1 MacBook Air (work computer) - iPhone 13 Pro Max - Apple Watch S3

 

Other Misc Devices: iPod Video (Gen 5.5E, 128GB SD card swap, running Rockbox), Nintendo Switch

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1 minute ago, FatUncle said:

no im not going 32 gb its too much and i was looking in my country is the intel core i5 9600k only 20 bucks more expensive than ryzen 3600.

like i said before 32gb is sometimes a personal thing.  That said a 9600k will have higher ipc, but 12 threads of 3600 will smooth things out.  Doubt the difference will add up to 1 fps between the 2 chips.  Both are great choices...I own a i5-8500...it games great and a 9600k should be slightly better.

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5 minutes ago, Stu_Bear said:

I think you are on solid footing there, but I'd suggest the non-x version...and still suggest 32gb of ram...your amd processor will thank you for it.  Below total is $373...I'd still want to add an NVMe drive for $75 though...

 

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getting the cheapest motherboard just to squeeze in 4x8gb ram, which the 3600 with that motherboard especially can't even run at full speed isn't a great recommendation. 

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27 minutes ago, FatUncle said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600X 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $239.99 @ Amazon
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK ATX AM4 Motherboard $110.00 @ Amazon
Memory G.Skill Trident Z RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $84.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $434.98
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:29 EST-0500  

would this be good? I might upgrade gpu to 2070 in one or two years but not sure

PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $189.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $99.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $74.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $364.97
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:58 EST-0500  

this is what i'd go for

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2 minutes ago, boggy77 said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor $189.99 @ Best Buy
Motherboard MSI B450 Gaming Plus MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $99.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory $74.99 @ Newegg
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $364.97
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-12 11:58 EST-0500  

this is what i'd go for

i think im going with that ty

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