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Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $299.99 @ Walmart
Motherboard MSI B450 TOMAHAWK MAX ATX AM4 Motherboard $114.99 @ B&H
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3200 Memory $59.99 @ Newegg
Storage Samsung 970 Evo 500 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $79.98 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $37.99 @ Amazon
Video Card XFX Radeon RX 5700 8 GB Video Card $349.99 @ Best Buy
Case Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case $69.99 @ Newegg
Power Supply Corsair RMx (2018) 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply $119.99 @ Corsair
Wireless Network Adapter Gigabyte GC-WB867D-I PCIe x1 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter $34.99 @ Amazon
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total $1167.90
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-01 05:01 EST-0500  

Posted an initial list yesterday and got some feedback, tried to revamp the list. Looking for mid to high tier gaming and productivity, no current plans to overclock. Always welcoming advice !

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PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $299.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $49.99 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard $129.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $49.99 @ Newegg
Storage Silicon Power A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $109.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $37.99 @ Amazon
Video Card PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 8 GB RED DRAGON Video Card $349.99 @ Amazon
Case Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan $6.89 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan $6.89 @ SuperBiiz
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1201.68
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1181.68
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-01 05:22 EST-0500  

I see white case, that's how the white CPU cooler got in.

 

Changed board for integrated WiFi

Changed memory kit to cut cost, 3000MHz and 3200MHz are too close for performance to show any difference

Better value SSD

Better cooled RX 5700

Cheaper PSU doing the same job

extra case fans for airflow

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $299.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $49.99 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard $129.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $49.99 @ Newegg
Storage Silicon Power A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $109.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $37.99 @ Amazon
Video Card PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 8 GB RED DRAGON Video Card $349.99 @ Amazon
Case Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan $6.89 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan $6.89 @ SuperBiiz
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1201.68
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1181.68
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-01 05:22 EST-0500  

I see white case, that's how the white CPU cooler got in.

 

Changed board for integrated WiFi

Changed memory kit to cut cost, 3000MHz and 3200MHz are too close for performance to show any difference

Better value SSD

Better cooled RX 5700

Cheaper PSU doing the same job

extra case fans for airflow

Is the CPU cooler necessary? From other threads I have heard that the standard AMD included cooler works fine (yes/no?). 

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7 hours ago, MNIX said:

Is the CPU cooler necessary? From other threads I have heard that the standard AMD included cooler works fine (yes/no?). 

stock cooler lets the CPU go past 80C pretty easily, not that loud but at that point Zen 2 CPUs start dropping boost more and more.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

stock cooler lets the CPU go past 80C pretty easily, not that loud but at that point Zen 2 CPUs start dropping boost more and more.

Alright, thats good to know thanks!

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

stock cooler lets the CPU go past 80C pretty easily, not that loud but at that point Zen 2 CPUs start dropping boost more and more.

even for the gen 3s as well then I am assuming?

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even for the gen 3s as well then I am assuming?

2nd gen CPUs are mostly (2300X, 2500X, 2600 and above) Zen+, 3500X and above are Zen 2.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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11 hours ago, Jurrunio said:

2nd gen CPUs are mostly (2300X, 2500X, 2600 and above) Zen+, 3500X and above are Zen 2.

Ah sorry i misread your comment, i thought you said Gen 2, thanks for the info!

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21 hours ago, MNIX said:

MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard

from what I know, this board needs a bios update before accepting ryzen 3000+

you might be better off with your initial tomahawk max + wifi card combo

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Is there a wifi board that you would recommend? I had considered the x570 asus tuf board with wifi, but then was recommended to the board with wifi card instead.

2 hours ago, boggy77 said:

from what I know, this board needs a bios update before accepting ryzen 3000+

you might be better off with your initial tomahawk max + wifi card combo

 

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3 minutes ago, MNIX said:

Is there a wifi board that you would recommend? I had considered the x570 asus tuf board with wifi, but then was recommended to the board with wifi card instead.

 

so you can either go with tomahawk max + separate wifi card (cheaper option) or with something like an msi x570 gaming pro carbon wifi or gigabyte x570 aorus elite wifi 

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Why those boards? From the review that I have read the Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus Wi-Fi has the same performance and better IO than the gigabyte and is cheaper than the msi option you mentioned.

1 hour ago, boggy77 said:

so you can either go with tomahawk max + separate wifi card (cheaper option) or with something like an msi x570 gaming pro carbon wifi or gigabyte x570 aorus elite wifi 

 

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7 minutes ago, MNIX said:

Why those boards? From the review that I have read the Asus TUF Gaming X570-Plus Wi-Fi has the same performance and better IO than the gigabyte and is cheaper than the msi option you mentioned.

 

 

Go for any tier C and above that has all the ports and features that you like and you'll be fine.

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1 hour ago, boggy77 said:

 

Go for any tier C and above that has all the ports and features that you like and you'll be fine.

Thanks for the reference! Super helpful! 

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The B450 Gaming Pro Carbon has bios flashback, so you can update it without a cpu.

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37 minutes ago, lee32uk said:

The B450 Gaming Pro Carbon has bios flashback, so you can update it without a cpu.

Is flashing the BIOS difficult and worth it? Should I just opt for a up-to-date mobo?  

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1 minute ago, MNIX said:

Is flashing the BIOS difficult and worth it? Should I just opt for a up-to-date mobo?  

I can't say it will be 100% problem free, but the board could well ship with an up to date bios anyway depending on how recent it is.

 

If you want plug and play then stick with the Tomahawk and an adapter.

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1 hour ago, lee32uk said:

I can't say it will be 100% problem free, but the board could well ship with an up to date bios anyway depending on how recent it is.

 

If you want plug and play then stick with the Tomahawk and an adapter.

alright thanks for the honesty!

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On 12/1/2019 at 11:23 AM, Jurrunio said:
PCPartPicker Part List
Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 7 3700X 3.6 GHz 8-Core Processor $299.99 @ Walmart
CPU Cooler Deepcool NEPTWIN WHITE 74.34 CFM CPU Cooler $49.99 @ B&H
Motherboard MSI B450 GAMING PRO CARBON AC ATX AM4 Motherboard $129.99 @ Amazon
Memory Team T-FORCE VULCAN Z 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory $49.99 @ Newegg
Storage Silicon Power A80 1 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive $109.99 @ Amazon
Storage Western Digital Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive $37.99 @ Amazon
Video Card PowerColor Radeon RX 5700 8 GB RED DRAGON Video Card $349.99 @ Amazon
Case Corsair Carbide Series 275R ATX Mid Tower Case $69.98 @ Amazon
Power Supply Corsair TXM Gold 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-modular ATX Power Supply $69.99 @ Newegg
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan $6.89 @ SuperBiiz
Case Fan ARCTIC Arctic F12 74 CFM 120 mm Fan $6.89 @ SuperBiiz
  Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts  
  Total (before mail-in rebates) $1201.68
  Mail-in rebates -$20.00
  Total $1181.68
  Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-12-01 05:22 EST-0500  

I see white case, that's how the white CPU cooler got in.

 

Changed board for integrated WiFi

Changed memory kit to cut cost, 3000MHz and 3200MHz are too close for performance to show any difference

Better value SSD

Better cooled RX 5700

Cheaper PSU doing the same job

extra case fans for airflow

Also I just noticed now, but does the case not come with fans? on the corsair website shows the case including fans.

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9 minutes ago, MNIX said:

Also I just noticed now, but does the case not come with fans? on the corsair website shows the case including fans.

It only comes with 2, the bare minimum to not bottom in thermal charts from reviewers.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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