Simple 12V 4pin RGB header to 5V 3 pin D-RGB solution

[Wydrfell]

Hi,

 

So currently i have an ASUS Prime X-470 Pro Motherboard with 2 12V 4 pin RGB headers. Issue is, I have 3 RGB components that all require 5V 3 pin RGB headers; these components are one Phanteks Halos Lux, one Deepcool Castle 240EX AIO cooler, and the Phanteks Evolv X case. These are all ASUS AURA sync compatible, so I am wondering if there is a cost effective and simple way to hook them all together and still be able to make use of the Aura sync.

 

I looked into the Deepcool RGB converter, but I'm a bit confused as to how it works, as there are 2 5V RGB ports and one GDV port. My confusion comes from one post I saw where someone with a similar issue stated that there was only on 5V rgb port usable with this converter, Assuming that is the case... what is the simplest way to connect all the RGB stuff together through that one port? 

 

Thank you all in advance.

[PriitM]

On an RGB fan, there are 3/4 pins: V-, V+, LED control and/or fan speed control.

 

Now, a "dirty" way would to supply 5V from a different rail to the fans and control the LEDs from a single signal source (they would all be in sync). That poses all of the supply rail and supply circuit compatibility issues.  

 

BUT: all those fancy LED control circuits are very very sensitive and need specialist hardware to drive. In essence, RGB is an addressed pulse voltage signal. Meaning connecting more than one fan to a single output will mess up the whole logic. Especially with these software driven RGB solutions. 

 

Sorry to say, you just have to find a converter/controller that has enough outputs to drive the number of fans you have...

[thrasher_565]

8 hours ago, Wydrfell said:

Hi,

 

So currently i have an ASUS Prime X-470 Pro Motherboard with 2 12V 4 pin RGB headers. Issue is, I have 3 RGB components that all require 5V 3 pin RGB headers; these components are one Phanteks Halos Lux, one Deepcool Castle 240EX AIO cooler, and the Phanteks Evolv X case. These are all ASUS AURA sync compatible, so I am wondering if there is a cost effective and simple way to hook them all together and still be able to make use of the Aura sync.

 

I looked into the Deepcool RGB converter, but I'm a bit confused as to how it works, as there are 2 5V RGB ports and one GDV port. My confusion comes from one post I saw where someone with a similar issue stated that there was only on 5V rgb port usable with this converter, Assuming that is the case... what is the simplest way to connect all the RGB stuff together through that one port? 

 

Thank you all in advance.

the vdg port is the same just different connector. its the only convertor to go form 12v mb to 5v device. only other option is to buy a usb controller.

 

[Wydrfell]

4 hours ago, PriitM said:

Sorry to say, you just have to find a converter/controller that has enough outputs to drive the number of fans you have...

Actually none of the RGB products I have are fans, the Halos is an RGB plate that you stick on to a non RGB fan to give it RGB, and the rest are for the RGB on my AIO cooler (it's included fans are not RGB) and the RGB lights on my case. Does that change the situation?

 

Thanks so much for your reply

[Wydrfell]

1 hour ago, thrasher_565 said:

the vdg port is the same just different connector. its the only convertor to go form 12v mb to 5v device. only other option is to buy a usb controller.

Frankly I'm surprised that don't have a PCI-E solution, a new thought occurred to me, could i just use a splitter like this one from cooler master:

 

https://www.amazon.ca/Cooler-Master-ARGB-Splitter-Cable/dp/B081RVKCG5/ref=sr_1_6?keywords=argb+splitter&qid=1574958411&s=electronics&sr=1-6

 

In conjunction with the deepcool converter?

 

would that work?

 

Thanks in advance

 

 

[PriitM]

1 hour ago, Wydrfell said:

Actually none of the RGB products I have are fans, the Halos is an RGB plate that you stick on to a non RGB fan to give it RGB, and the rest are for the RGB on my AIO cooler (it's included fans are not RGB) and the RGB lights on my case. Does that change the situation?

 

Thanks so much for your reply

Driving RGB is similar in any case. AURA may have a specific signal pattern/profile for a specific line of RGB chips. RGB chips have a built in driver with firmware. There are several manufacturers and configurations. Too many variables to figure out so the blunt of it is: 90% chance of not working. 

[Wydrfell]

32 minutes ago, PriitM said:

Driving RGB is similar in any case. AURA may have a specific signal pattern/profile for a specific line of RGB chips. RGB chips have a built in driver with firmware. There are several manufacturers and configurations. Too many variables to figure out so the blunt of it is: 90% chance of not working. 

Thanks for clearing that up,

 

My new plan of attack is to buy three Deepcool RGB converters (since they are AURA sync compatible) and connect one to one of the 4pin RGB headers and buy a 4 pin RGB splitter and connect the other two converters to the other remaining 4 pin RGB header via said splitter.

 

Thoughts on this approach?

[thrasher_565]

9 hours ago, Wydrfell said:

Actually none of the RGB products I have are fans, the Halos is an RGB plate that you stick on to a non RGB fan to give it RGB, and the rest are for the RGB on my AIO cooler (it's included fans are not RGB) and the RGB lights on my case. Does that change the situation?

 

Thanks so much for your reply

is the halo rgb or argb they sell both.... i mean that cable is expensive but i guess its worth a shot.

what  priitm  is saying is the argb stuff is just like an argb strip were there are chips on it and thows chips only work with a serten frequency. the manufacture wont tell you what they work with because they want you to go buy the phantex rgb controller and keep all "phantexs stuff"  if they made a proper controller and stuff it wouldn't be a problem but they don't seem to care.

 

deepcool just so happened to make that convertor but there are also problems with it and also serten frequency only work with that as well so its a hit and miss.

i would probably just buy 1 convert to see it if works be for going forward.

 

another this is that onbord rgb controllers are not that good so keep that in mind but if i had to pic one asus would be it.

i myself are making custom cables to attach other argb stuff to my corsair controllers so its a gamble for me kinda.

 

another thing would be to look up reviews or youtube videos on the halo and see what controllers they used for it.

 

[Wydrfell]

3 hours ago, thrasher_565 said:

is the halo rgb or argb they sell both.... i mean that cable is expensive but i guess its worth a shot.

what  priitm  is saying is the argb stuff is just like an argb strip were there are chips on it and thows chips only work with a serten frequency. the manufacture wont tell you what they work with because they want you to go buy the phantex rgb controller and keep all "phantexs stuff"  if they made a proper controller and stuff it wouldn't be a problem but they don't seem to care.

 

deepcool just so happened to make that convertor but there are also problems with it and also serten frequency only work with that as well so its a hit and miss.

i would probably just buy 1 convert to see it if works be for going forward.

 

another this is that onbord rgb controllers are not that good so keep that in mind but if i had to pic one asus would be it.

i myself are making custom cables to attach other argb stuff to my corsair controllers so its a gamble for me kinda.

 

another thing would be to look up reviews or youtube videos on the halo and see what controllers they used for it.

 

The halos I have is this one:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B079RVTXMD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

 

So not the Digital Lux ones im guessing they are not aRGB? I also don't know what connector they have, there seems to be very little info on them even on Phantek's own site... Guess i'll have too look up a few videos and see

 

You are right about the cables, they are expensive... I also realized that i could technically without the splitter cable just try and daisy chain all three of the converters together, return policy is 15 days so if it doesn't work i can always return.

[thrasher_565]

9 hours ago, Wydrfell said:

The halos I have is this one:

https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B079RVTXMD/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1

 

So not the Digital Lux ones im guessing they are not aRGB? I also don't know what connector they have, there seems to be very little info on them even on Phantek's own site... Guess i'll have too look up a few videos and see

 

You are right about the cables, they are expensive... I also realized that i could technically without the splitter cable just try and daisy chain all three of the converters together, return policy is 15 days so if it doesn't work i can always return.

ya thows look like rgb to me so they work just fine pluged in to the mb if you get an adapter. so there 12v rgb with 4pins and uses an jst-sm connector witch is stander for rgb.

says you can daisy Chane them already... and might even come with the mb cable and just need a spiter