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Upgrading my whole system.

GreY2231

Hello and good day everyone. I am choosing to upgrade my whole system. Please keep in mind I do not want to go to AMD I will stay with Intel and I live in Germany so prices for certain items are way higher than in the US. I had to save for 2 months to get the GTX980ti which I paid 200€ used for (Lowest price in my area)

I am currently running a ...

i5 4690k OCd to 4.2ghz

Asrock Fatal1ty B87

16gb DDR3 gskill ripjaws

GTX 980ti (Palit super jetstream)

 

At first I wanted to just go with a i7 4790k but the prices are so high i decided to go with 6th or 7th gen and just keep my current rig for a mild gaming rig when I am at my girlfriend's apartment (using an MSI GTX 970 Gaming). 

I will go with an Asrock Gaming K6 Z270 MB   

Is the i7 7700k that much better than the i7 6700k? Userbenchmark says overall 7%. I will be water cooling it with a Eisbaer LT240 AiO from Alphacool and maybe a small overclock. 

I will be upgrading to 32gb DDR4 3000mhz 

and I will keep my gtx 980ti for now and maybe go with a gtx 1080ti next year or go SLI with another gtx 980ti  (which is better?)

 

Thank you in advance for all of your help.

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2 minutes ago, GreY2231 said:

Userbenchmark says overall 7%

Which may show some slight improvements in FPS under games, but whether that's worth it in terms of money spent, is up to you.

I'd skip the SLI, fewer and fewer games are coded for that, and the performance increase vs the cost isn't worth it anymore (IME)

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1 hour ago, GreY2231 said:

At first I wanted to just go with a i7 4790k but the prices are so high

I agree, because I just bought a used one for 160 €

 

1 hour ago, GreY2231 said:

Hello and good day everyone. I am choosing to upgrade my whole system.

I just had a very similar situation. The problem is that your system has no upgrade path except the cpu.

 

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Is the i7 7700k that much better than the i7 6700k?
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Is the i7 7700k that much better than the i7 6700k? Userbenchmark says overall 7%. I will be water cooling it with a Eisbaer LT240 AiO from Alphacool and maybe a small overclock. 

No

That does make no sense performance wise and would be just for looks. Save the money of the AiO and buy a current cpu instead... It would give you more performance.

 

7700k is not worth it at this point because it is old gen but you would need also a new board and ram. Then you are stuck again because you can not upgrade the cpu. Also the prices, even for used 7700k are high. I just bought a used one for 230 € but that is another story

 

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Thank you in advance for all of your help.

There is only one way forward, buying ryzen system because a comparable intel system is out of your price range. You can get a ryzen 2600, mainboard and 16GB ram for ~280 €. The processor is slightly faster than an 4790k while having more cores for the future. It also has many upgrade paths for the cpu in the future.

 

Cheapest solution would to to sell your cpu and buy an 4790k but you are stuck and can not upgrade anymore, depends on how long you want to use the PC.

 

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and I will keep my gtx 980ti for now and maybe go with a gtx 1080ti next year or go SLI with another gtx 980ti  (which is better?)

SLI is burning money at this point. Just combine the money of the 2x1080ti and buy a 2080ti or 3080ti in a year. You will need a better cpu for that because even a 7700k will be the bottleneck.

 

 

 

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Yeah, with Ryzen 3xxx kicking Intel so hard in price/performance metrics, I don't get why some choose to hand on to the belief that Intel is still better....unless Ryzen 3 is crazily overpriced in Germany.

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2 hours ago, GamerDude said:

Yeah, with Ryzen 3xxx kicking Intel so hard in price/performance metrics, I don't get why some choose to hand on to the belief that Intel is still better....unless Ryzen 3 is crazily overpriced in Germany.

Even 1st gen would still be great

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there is no reason to upgrade to a 7700k unless you already have a motherboard for it. 

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7 hours ago, GreY2231 said:

Hello and good day everyone. I am choosing to upgrade my whole system. Please keep in mind I do not want to go to AMD I will stay with Intel and I live in Germany so prices for certain items are way higher than in the US. I had to save for 2 months to get the GTX980ti which I paid 200€ used for (Lowest price in my area)

I am currently running a ...

i5 4690k OCd to 4.2ghz

Asrock Fatal1ty B87

16gb DDR3 gskill ripjaws

GTX 980ti (Palit super jetstream)

 

At first I wanted to just go with a i7 4790k but the prices are so high i decided to go with 6th or 7th gen and just keep my current rig for a mild gaming rig when I am at my girlfriend's apartment (using an MSI GTX 970 Gaming). 

I will go with an Asrock Gaming K6 Z270 MB   

Is the i7 7700k that much better than the i7 6700k? Userbenchmark says overall 7%. I will be water cooling it with a Eisbaer LT240 AiO from Alphacool and maybe a small overclock. 

I will be upgrading to 32gb DDR4 3000mhz 

and I will keep my gtx 980ti for now and maybe go with a gtx 1080ti next year or go SLI with another gtx 980ti  (which is better?)

 

Thank you in advance for all of your help.

If you MUST stay with intel at least go Z390 and I would say an i7 8700K is the bare min upgrade.  This will allow you to go up to a 9900KS if need be or by the grace of God if Intel extends 14NM again lol

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I don't have that high of a budget so that's why I am sticking with older stuff. I am bidding on an Asrock Z270 Gaming K6 they are around 80-110€ Used here. 
I found 32 GB DDR4-3000 Corsair Vengeance LED (4x8) for 200€
the 7700k goes for 300€ here and the 6700k 210€  I also just looked the i7 8700k is new for 380€ and the Z390 from Asrock roundabout 110€ But I also see the 8700k is a 6C/12T with core clock 3.7 ghz and the 7700k is 4.2 ghz  and the 6700k 4.0 ghz is that a big deal?

I found an MSI Z170 board with a 6700k installed for 210€ too

And I will save up for a 1080ti as I will stay with 1080p Monitors.  Is there a specific brand/model to avoid when looking for a 1080ti? Till now I have only had MSI twin frozr/Gaming X (GT250, GTX560, GTX760, GTX 970) and now my GTX 980ti is a Palit Super Jetstream

I will stay with Intel. 

I can afford roundabout 200-300€ at once per month and I don't need a PC with the newest and greatest I just want good quality for the money I have. 

 

So after looking up the MB and CPU for the i7 8700k the price is about the same +50€ vs. the 7700k. userbenchmark say 8-12% better. I can get the 8700k new for 380€ the 7700k used for 350€ So I think I will go for the 8700k and just save up a bit more. Thank you everyone.

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