AMD WTF!?

[jones177]

Some motherboard, CPU, GPU combinations have issues, even with Intel.

I usually build multiple computers with close to the same specs. Sometimes the difference is a motherboard revision. 

None have really worked the same.

 

In 2016 I built two i7 6700k systems. The only difference in them was that one used a Gigabyte GTX 1080 and the other used an EVGA 1080. The Gigabyte had constant driver crashes and blue screens. With reinstalling everything they did not go away. Switching out the Gigabyte card with the EVGA fixed it for about a year and then it started up again after an upgrade to a EVGA 1080 ti. The final fix was a new motherboard.

With the other computer the CPU ran hot even at stock. It had the same motherboard, same ram, same cooler and same case as the one that ran cool. The fix was a Noctua NH-D15.

I put it down to luck since we don't hand pick are components. We have to use what comes in the box. 

 

4 minutes ago, Dropit said:

After reading that I guess it has got to be something with the chipset or so. I'm giving the rx 5700 to my buddie and I think about getting a rtx 2060 or 2060 super instead. Got some aib models to recommend? 

Edit: the gigabyte or msi models look good but can looks be trusted?

There is no good answer to that.

 

I buy EVGAs because they are easy to RMA but they have issues as well.

 

I have spare everything lying around so it is easier for me to troubleshoot this sort of thing. Nine times out of ten it ends up being the motherboard.

Every GPU I have bought that has had issues has worked fine in another system.

 

[Dropit]

2 minutes ago, jones177 said:

Some motherboard, CPU, GPU combinations have issues, even with Intel.

I usually build multiple computers with close to the same specs. Sometimes the difference is a motherboard revision. 

None have really worked the same.

 

In 2016 I built two i7 6700k systems. The only difference in them was that one used a Gigabyte GTX 1080 and the other used an EVGA 1080. The Gigabyte had constant driver crashes and blue screens. With reinstalling everything they did not go away. Switching out the Gigabyte card with the EVGA fixed it for about a year and then it started up again after an upgrade to a EVGA 1080 ti. The final fix was a new motherboard.

With the other computer the CPU ran hot even at stock. It had the same motherboard, same ram, same cooler and same case as the one that ran cool. The fix was a Noctua NH-D15.

I put it down to luck since we don't hand pick are components. We have to use what comes in the box. 

 

There is no good answer to that.

 

I buy EVGAs because they are easy to RMA but they have issues as well.

 

I have spare everything lying around so it is easier for me to troubleshoot this sort of thing. Nine times out of ten it ends up being the motherboard.

Every GPU I have bought that has had issues has worked fine in another system.

 

Thanks, maybe I'll give the rx 5700 another try, as it just IS a really good performance for money card.

[Tristerin]

1 minute ago, Dropit said:

Thanks, maybe I'll give the rx 5700 another try, as it just IS a really good performance for money card.

Sucks to be dealing with for real.  Have you checked to see if its running in x8 (the PCIE slot) and ensure its in PCIEx16?  Do you have the card in a bottom slot sharing bandwidth with an M.2 drive perhaps?  Heres a screenshot of HWinfo64 showing my GPU running in x16 for example to check to see if yours is as well (only solution on that page you shared was ensuring its running in x16)

[RonnieOP]

4 hours ago, Dropit said:

And the hilarious part is, he has a older system than me, b350 ryzen 1st gen but it works in his, and not in mine

You said in the OP he had an intel system?

 

 

[LogicalDrm]

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@Dropit, if you feel like you are getting trolled by other rather than them being helpful, please report those comments instead of venting out to them. For those people you getting more triggered just feeds their petty nature.

 

Also, please edit your posts instead of posting multiple in a row. Makes reading things much easier. I've merged your and @Tristerin posts because of that.

 

For the rest of you who aren't helping, shame on you.

[Dropit]

1 hour ago, Tristerin said:

Sucks to be dealing with for real.  Have you checked to see if its running in x8 (the PCIE slot) and ensure its in PCIEx16?  Do you have the card in a bottom slot sharing bandwidth with an M.2 drive perhaps?  Heres a screenshot of HWinfo64 showing my GPU running in x16 for example to check to see if yours is as well (only solution on that page you shared was ensuring its running in x16)

It is running in x16, but I also have an m.2 ssd installed

Edit: just checked and only Sata connections get disabled when using the m.2 slot not the pcie slots. So it isn't heat or bandwidth limits, I guess there's a reason for amds reputation for faulty drivers.

[Tristerin]

17 minutes ago, Dropit said:

It is running in x16, but I also have an m.2 ssd installed

Edit: just checked and only Sata connections get disabled when using the m.2 slot not the pcie slots.

Grasping at straws here but things I would try (1 at a time, and try to reproduce the BSOD):

 

If GPU sag, get the GPU level so its not pulling on the PCIe slot.  My R9 Fury Tri-X if left to sag will actually have power delivery issues from the PCIe slot.  Use a dowel rod, lego's, something to build a support.  (make sure your PSU cables aren't pulling it down either)

 

Remove MSI afterburner from PC

 

Remove all AMD software from PC (DDU, no catalyst etc) and let Windows 10 install generic driver see if that clears up the issue (you wont get full potential of card but could see if some software issue there)

 

Try all previous GPU drivers

 

Try all previous motherboard BIOS updates supporting your CPU and try multiple combinations of the GPU/MOBO bios/drivers

 

RMA something

[Dropit]

I feel now kinda stupid but what if it's the bios? I have one from september.

[Mark Kaine]

You mean the GPU BIOS?  That's entirely possible I've read there are some issues with some models BIOS of this card (additional to the known driver issues) 

 

However I don't think it's the motherboard BIOS,  my MSI BIOS is from September and I see no issues with it. (that's not really old anyways /

[tech.guru]

look at the pcie connector on the motherboard. if it works in one motherboard but not another chances are there is a pin damaged in the pcie express slot.