ONEPLUS has been hacked !! (security breach)

[RonnieOP]

5 minutes ago, dizmo said:

So you figure they'll do it to their own citizens, but no one else?
How naive.

What do they gain? Literally nothing. So they waste time and effort to gain nothing.

 

By your logic why china? Maybe its the russians, maybe its the nsa. 

 

I could spend days listing off governments and agencies that "could" have done it even though they gain nothing.

 

Bringing up what China does to its own citizens isnt even a valid argument. 

 

 

 

 

[dizmo]

1 hour ago, RonnieOP said:

What do they gain? Literally nothing. So they waste time and effort to gain nothing.

By your logic why china? Maybe its the russians, maybe its the nsa. 

I could spend days listing off governments and agencies that "could" have done it even though they gain nothing.

Bringing up what China does to its own citizens isnt even a valid argument.

Why China? You can't be serious. China, because that's the topic at hand. OnePlus is a Chinese company. China openly monitors it's citizens, so it's by no means a far stretch to assume they'd also do it to others. The Chinese government merely has to request data from companies, and they'll comply, because that's now their system is set up. We know the NSA collects mass surveillance on citizens. It's been documented. I'm sure the Russians do to. Neither of those facts is relevant to OnePlus.

[Sauron]

On 11/23/2019 at 12:13 AM, wasab said:

If Chinese government wish to hack you, it is 100% guranteed they can and will. You simply can't defend against adversary with as much resources and expertise as a national government. However, why would they? They won't be wasting money and manpower on picking out the average nobody, instead I'm pretty sure they are hacking corporation for trade secrets or the pentagon for intelligences instead. 

One "average nobody"'s information doesn't matter to the Chinese government, but 100000 average nobodies' information might. Not that I think they're responsible for this, but don't assume the stolen data isn't valuable to someone who would have the means to "hack" you individually.

[Sauron]

18 minutes ago, dizmo said:

The Chinese government merely has to request data from companies, and they'll comply, because that's now their system is set up.

If it had been a data "request" by the Chinese government and OP had complied, they wouldn't be talking about it. Why tell everyone? It's not like anyone could find it out independently and the Chinese government wouldn't want it to be known.

[Jeppes]

On 11/23/2019 at 1:20 AM, wasab said:

What do they gain out of this information? Are they trying to do consumer research? Do they want to see what times/locations you shop and websites you visit? Do they want to use your browsing history for mass ads? If so, Google and Microsoft, and countless western companies should be what you are worrying about instead of foreign governments.  

Consumer research? Its called leverage. You get some teenagers racist messages or other stupid stuff, he becomes a politician and you have leverage.

[wasab]

58 minutes ago, Jeppes said:

Consumer research? Its called leverage. You get some teenagers racist messages or other stupid stuff, he becomes a politician and you have leverage.

You seriously think a foreign government would try to blackmail you?

[Jeppes]

20 hours ago, wasab said:

You seriously think a foreign government would try to blackmail you?

I think they'll blackmail people who have power to give them what they want. It is beyond stupid to give that kind of power to an authoritarian state with concentration camps.

[SpaceGhostC2C]

On 11/29/2019 at 6:11 AM, Mark Kaine said:

Ah ok but that's honestly why you don't buy at random "manufacturer stores" and instead from a few trusted ones like Amazon etc,  or indeed your service provider (that's where I got all my phones from iirc)

LOL, just LOL.

 

On 11/30/2019 at 4:01 PM, dizmo said:

Why China? You can't be serious. China, because that's the topic at hand. OnePlus is a Chinese company.

That makes it less likely for an intrusion to be perpetrated by the Chinese government. The NSA and CIA don't "hack" into Google, Facebook, Apple, or whatever to collect data - they don't need to.

I don't see any government, Chinese or otherwise, exploiting a vulnerability to collect partial customer data. Data they most likely already have, or could have if deemed necessary, anyways.

 

On 11/30/2019 at 4:01 PM, dizmo said:

 

The Chinese government merely has to request data from companies, and they'll comply, because that's now their system is set up.

That's exactly why it doesn't make sense for the Chinese government to be breaking into a company's server to retrieve such a pedestrian bounty.

[MichaelWd]

Can someone clarify if the compromised data are from OnePlus's order history (ie only affecting orders direct from their store) or from Android records (ie potentially affecting all OnePlus owners)?

 

I imagine it is the former since people with OnePlus phones are saying they haven't got any email?