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Let me start off by saying that no question the thing I'm going to end up buying first is CPU. But that will involve buying a mobo and ram also and I have been way out of the loop for about 5 years. 

 

So I decided I wanted to play Apex Legends on PC with the fiance the other day and I'm greeted with a pop-up that tells me that the game can't even launch because my CPU doesn't support it. 

It's an AMD Phenom II x6 1100T Black Edition, btw. Good choice 9 years ago. Garbage today.

 

So now the obvious question: which way to go? I am on a budget, so nothing crazy like i9 or Threadripper. I wanna go with AMD since they seem to finally be on top in my price point. If I could get away with spending under $300 for this upgrade, I wouldn't cry at all. Not even against buying used. 

 

Anyways, my main conundrum is whether to go with Ryzen Gen 2 or Gen 3. I know that either one will be a massive upgrade, I just don't wanna upgrade to a point that's being left behind already.

And RAM, I'm thinking maybe just 6 gigs since I am on a budget rn, maybe 8 if there's a deal. But I'm not sure where the sweet spot as far as Ryzen performance is. I do know that Ryzen likes fast RAM, that's about it.

 

If you're wondering, the GPU is an RX 480, still a capable card, imo. Not looking to upgrade it atm, especially since I'm still on a 1080p monitor. 

 

Thanks!

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Ryzen 2nd gen can't go as high in frame rates (struggles quite often to go past 100fps) so if you're into high refresh rate gaming, 3rd gen is noticeably better. If you only play at about 60fps, 2nd gen is sufficient, which is also noticeably cheaper.

 

4 minutes ago, BustinJustin said:

6 gigs

without 2GB DDR4 sticks and need to get dual channel, the minimum is 8GB. Might as well go 16GB since you can get 3000MHz of that with about $50.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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What is your present motherboard?

 

Used market:

 

Ryzen 5 1600 $75-90

B350 motherboard $50-60

8gb 3000 ram $30-40

 

Between $155 and $190

 

Otherwise I'd wait for BF deals as I expect a 2600 or 2700/b450 for $150ish and add $60 for your choice of 16gb ddr4 3200.....add $40-60 for a new PSU.

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New:

 

$120 Ryzen 5 2600 

$80 B450 

$60 16gb ddr4 3200

$50 psu

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1 minute ago, Plutosaurus said:

What is your present motherboard?

 

Used market:

 

Ryzen 5 1600 $75-90

B350 motherboard $50-60

8gb 3000 ram $30-40

 

Between $155 and $190

 

Otherwise I'd wait for BF deals as I expect a 2600 or 2700/b450 for $200 or less and add $60 for your choice of 16gb ddr4 3200.....add $40-60 for a new PSU.

Good idea waiting for Black Friday. As for my current mobo, it's not gonna fetch anything. It's an Asus ROG Crosshair IV Formula. Don't think my CPU will be worth the trouble to sell, either. Prolly just dump at my town's e-waste facility.

 

Thanks for the Black Friday idea though!

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5 minutes ago, BustinJustin said:

Good idea waiting for Black Friday. As for my current mobo, it's not gonna fetch anything. It's an Asus ROG Crosshair IV Formula. Don't think my CPU will be worth the trouble to sell, either. Prolly just dump at my town's e-waste facility.

 

Thanks for the Black Friday idea though!

 

Oh just thinking if it's compatible with FX, you could try to get an FX chip for a few bucks and use it (it will run apex...not super well but it will run)

 

Wouldn't spend more than $20 tho

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My System: i7-13700KF // Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix // MSI MPG Z690 Edge Wifi // 32GB DDR5 G. SKILL RIPJAWS S5 6000 CL32 // Nvidia RTX 4070 Super FE // Corsair 5000D Airflow // Corsair SP120 RGB Pro x7 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w //1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Teamgroup MP33/2TB Seagate 7200RPM Hard Drive // Displays: LG Ultragear 32GP83B x2 // Royal Kludge RK100 // Logitech G Pro X Superlight // Sennheiser DROP PC38x

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19 minutes ago, BustinJustin said:

it's not gonna fetch anything. It's an Asus ROG Crosshair IV Formula.

Ah it will, as a pure blood ROG board

 

even the CPU could fetch something if you're bothered to sell it

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just picked up a 2700x from Newegg for $169.99! Don't think I'll get a better deal than that! Now just for mobo and ram! 

 

PS: It came with BL3/Outer Worlds and 3 months of Game Pass too! 

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1 hour ago, BustinJustin said:

Just picked up a 2700x from Newegg for $169.99! Don't think I'll get a better deal than that! Now just for mobo and ram! 

 

PS: It came with BL3/Outer Worlds and 3 months of Game Pass too! 

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That's an amazing deal and if you were gonna buy one of those games anyway that's like....$110 for an 8/16 cpu.

 

Enjoy!

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My System: i7-13700KF // Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix // MSI MPG Z690 Edge Wifi // 32GB DDR5 G. SKILL RIPJAWS S5 6000 CL32 // Nvidia RTX 4070 Super FE // Corsair 5000D Airflow // Corsair SP120 RGB Pro x7 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w //1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Teamgroup MP33/2TB Seagate 7200RPM Hard Drive // Displays: LG Ultragear 32GP83B x2 // Royal Kludge RK100 // Logitech G Pro X Superlight // Sennheiser DROP PC38x

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35 minutes ago, steelo said:

Very nice!

 

Just make sure you buy a MB that supports a 105W AM4 socket.

Yeah have a looksie on the motherboard stickies

 

General consensus is the tomohawk b450 is a great value/performer

 

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My System: i7-13700KF // Corsair iCUE H150i Elite Capellix // MSI MPG Z690 Edge Wifi // 32GB DDR5 G. SKILL RIPJAWS S5 6000 CL32 // Nvidia RTX 4070 Super FE // Corsair 5000D Airflow // Corsair SP120 RGB Pro x7 // Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 850w //1TB ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro/1TB Teamgroup MP33/2TB Seagate 7200RPM Hard Drive // Displays: LG Ultragear 32GP83B x2 // Royal Kludge RK100 // Logitech G Pro X Superlight // Sennheiser DROP PC38x

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