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Which ATX motherboard for 3900x?

Kitsan

I'm building up another PC and I was hoping someone could give me some pointers on a good ATX board for a 3900x system?

 

I'm not really going to use SLI or PCI-E 4.0 so it doesn't feel like there's a good reason to go with an x570 motherboard, the only advantage I can see is faster memory but I read that tighter timings are more important than raw mhz?

 

It's mostly going to get used for business related projects, so it'll be used for the usual video/photo projects and also some CAD programs like Solidworks...etc but it'll also likely replace my 8700K gaming rig as I can't really justify keeping both (as much as i'd like to) so I will also be gaming on it at circa 165hz.

 

Im leaning toward a MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon at the moment...

 

 

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16 minutes ago, remus243 said:

Im leaning toward a MSI X470 Gaming Pro Carbon at the moment

Seems self defeating to go that route.  Assuming US pricing, that's the price-point of the non-extreme X570 boards.  If you are thinking to get a good board for around $170 you'd best go with X570 just for the better features/more support anyway.

 

Assuming you just want a board that works and are not planning to push heavily into overclocking, you would get best value with a nice MAX-series (means upgraded BIOS that supports all 3rd gen natively out of the box, no having to q-flash or boot-kit, and the ROM chip is bigger so full-fat bios images fit, unlike older non-X570 boards) like this for right-at $115:

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/jcYQzy/msi-b450-tomahawk-max-atx-am4-motherboard-b450-tomahawk-max

If you don't care to save the money and just want a little fancier, I'd pick this board over the Gaming Pro Carbon, and the bonus is that it's a value-priced Asus TUF series for $165: https://pcpartpicker.com/product/whMTwP/asus-tuf-gaming-x570-plus-atx-am4-motherboard-tuf-gaming-x570-plus

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I'd reccommend the ASUS X570 TUF, like mentioned before. You're buying a 500$ proc, I wouldn't cheap out on a motherboard.

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25 minutes ago, remus243 said:

it doesn't feel like there's a good reason to go with an x570 motherboard,

The power draw tho means non-X570 boards good for handling the 3900X is somewhat limited in number

and they are rarely at a good price.

 

27 minutes ago, remus243 said:

I can see is faster memory but I read that tighter timings are more important than raw mhz?

even older boards could be capable in memory overclocking.

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You are right not needing a X570, it's nut's the prices on the X570 line when you compare the same  price on older gen mobo features / Quality.

That said, get yourself one of the best AM4 mobos, the Taichi X470 can EASILY handle all the new CPUs as well it's packed with connectivity for a fair price.

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9 hours ago, SliceT said:

it's nut's the prices on the X570 line when you compare the same  price on older gen mobo features / Quality

Really depends on the X570 you're looking at, it's not that nuts considering you just recommended he get an older generation, $210 motherboard that isn't even guaranteed to boot with a Ryzen 3000-series CPU out of the box.

9 hours ago, SliceT said:

the Taichi X470 can EASILY handle all the new CPUs ... for a fair price.

I mentioned a B450 board that costs $115 , you call a $210 board a fair price (that's the price of most higher-end X570 btw, wth).  The B450 and X570 boards I mentioned both cost less than the one you mention, and they have essentially the same level of "connectivity" to be packed with. 

Your logic is flawed yo.

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Thanks for your comments guys, I think I will stick with Z390 for a bit longer and look at a 9900K as the 3900X isnt far enough ahead in the type of things that I want to do to warrant a platform change, just been watching too much tech on YT and getting carried away I think!

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