streaming 9900k vs 3900x for streamer

[ProNoob Zoom]

I have been working on a parts list for nearly 5 months if not a lot longer. My original budget was 2000, but with the 3900x and the 9900k being so close within my grasp from my current decision on the 3800x, I wanted to splurge on the cpu. I have researched and seen that the 3900x wouldn't affect my gaming performance while streaming as the 9900k, but the 9900k provides more raw gaming performance. I am at a crossroads. This is also my first build, and the plan in the future is that I am going to get a second pc anyways for a dual pc setup but that wont be for a long time after i make this first pc purchase. Therefore, I want to make the best decision for my first pc. I plan to stream at 1080p 60 fps while gaming at 1080p as well. I don't have a monitor to handle 1440p yet. The link to my parts list will be below. I appreciate all of those that take the time to help me through my debacle. Hope you have a good day. PS: I would prefer to stick with the rtx 2080 super bc the 2080ti is way too high above my budget right now.

 

Parts List

[Princess Luna]

It doesn't really matter... you should stream with NVENC anyways nowadays.

 

1 minute ago, ProNoob Zoom said:

I would prefer to stick with the rtx 2080 super bc the 2080ti is way too high above my budget right now.

To be 100% frank I'd get a discounted i7 9700KF since it will give the best gaming performance and then afford the RTX 2080 Ti and stream using it's insanely good NVENC capability.

[Flying Sausages]

3900x

[ProNoob Zoom]

28 minutes ago, Princess Luna said:

It doesn't really matter... you should stream with NVENC anyways nowadays.

 

To be 100% frank I'd get a discounted i7 9700KF since it will give the best gaming performance and then afford the RTX 2080 Ti and stream using it's insanely good NVENC capability.

So the 9700KF isnt gonna affect the gaming performance much, but it is gonna allow me to buy a 2080TI with the extra budget?

[5x5]

4 minutes ago, ProNoob Zoom said:

So the 9700KF isnt gonna affect the gaming performance much, but it is gonna allow me to buy a 2080TI with the extra budget?

The 9700K is frankly not good for streaming when the 3700X exists since single core performance is close but the 3700X has double the threads, lower heat output, lower thermals and less power draw for the same price

[WereCat]

The 3900X is definitely better at streaming than 9900k since you can use slower presets and get much higher quality while still having great performance in game. 

 

Depends on what settings you plan to use. At 720p it likely doesn't matter that much. 

[Princess Luna]

9 minutes ago, ProNoob Zoom said:

So the 9700KF isnt gonna affect the gaming performance much, but it is gonna allow me to buy a 2080TI with the extra budget?

There are two ways you can go about streaming, use your CPU for the video encode or let your GPU take the job, you should spend more on the hardware you'll use to do it.

[Founders]

4 minutes ago, ProNoob Zoom said:

So the 9700KF isnt gonna affect the gaming performance much, but it is gonna allow me to buy a 2080TI with the extra budget?

If we're talking about pure gaming performance the 9700KF/9900KF are almost at a stalemate. But we're not, your intended use is both gaming and streaming so the 9700KF isn't going to really cut it. You're better off with the 3700x, 3900x, or the 9900KF. I wouldn't worry about your next computer I mean you haven't even built this one yet. Your best option IMO if you want the 2080TI get a 3700x for now, plan an upgrade in the future.    

[WereCat]

The entire 2000 series of Turing cards use the same NVENC chip so if you will use that, you will have the same quality with 2060 as with 2080ti. 

The better card will obviously give you more FPS but you will also pay more. 

 

That said, NVENC on Turing has pretty good quality and performance and is easy to setup. 

 

I'm assuming that you want to stream on Twitch where you can push the bitrate to about 8000 if you're not a partner. 

That's not very ideal for 1080p60 (for fast paced games like Apex Legends for example) and that's why 720p60 is usually more recommended as it gives better quality at those lower bitrates. 

 

If you really want to push for 1080p60 then 3900X is prefect for that as it can provide better quality at those restricted bitrates with better compression than NVENC but it will also have higher performance hit on your gameplay. 

Not as severe as with 9900k though. 

[ProNoob Zoom]

24 minutes ago, WereCat said:

The entire 2000 series of Turing cards use the same NVENC chip so if you will use that, you will have the same quality with 2060 as with 2080ti. 

The better card will obviously give you more FPS but you will also pay more. 

 

That said, NVENC on Turing has pretty good quality and performance and is easy to setup. 

 

I'm assuming that you want to stream on Twitch where you can push the bitrate to about 8000 if you're not a partner. 

That's not very ideal for 1080p60 (for fast paced games like Apex Legends for example) and that's why 720p60 is usually more recommended as it gives better quality at those lower bitrates. 

 

If you really want to push for 1080p60 then 3900X is prefect for that as it can provide better quality at those restricted bitrates with better compression than NVENC but it will also have higher performance hit on your gameplay. 

Not as severe as with 9900k though. 

So a 9900k is the optimal cpu where there wont be as big of a hit to streamer side fps. But for stream settings on Twitch with a cap of 8000 bit rate, i would have to stream at 720p60 no matter what?

[WereCat]

2 minutes ago, ProNoob Zoom said:

So a 9900k is the optimal cpu where there wont be as big of a hit to streamer side fps. But for stream settings on Twitch with a cap of 8000 bit rate, i would have to stream at 720p60 no matter what?

I said 3900X is better. 9900k will have higher performance hit if you decide to stream 1080p60 with CPU x264. 

You don't have to stream at 720p60, it really depends on what kind of game you play. 

I said that in games where you move constantly and the scene is constantly changing, 720p60 will look better with less compression artifacting. 

Slower paced games or games with a lot of static screen elements will be fine at 1080p60 with that bitrate.