Custom Closed loop cooling???

[Hellcat_gamer]

So my computer is moved constantly from friends to friends and such. I have a Corsair H100i Pro as a cooler. It struggles  to cool the I7-9700 when I overclock it and run it hard so I stopped over clocking it. I just went to a push and pull method with the fans and it helped but still louder then hell running at 100% holding 145°F. Now.....I couldnt find an answer that said no to my question....can I make a custom closed loop with a large radiator? I dont want a normal custom loop as my computer is constantly being moved around and will most likley spill coolant. I'm assuming I'd need to probably change the fluid and tubing at least every 6 months. I have an old H100I V2 (I'll see if the pump still works) that i want to try and just cut the tubing at the radiator end, and install a 480 radiator. (Yes I know its ridiculous, kinda the point of the whole build). I could buy the pump, hoses, and radiator separately but not if i even think it might not work. I can fill it with no air pockets no problem, but is it even worth the time to experiment? Do you have any other ideas or tips? 

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[GoldenLag]

14 minutes ago, Hellcat_gamer said:

I just went to a push and pull method with the fans and it helped but still louder then hell running at 100% holding 145°F

Using easy to understand units like celsius thats 63*C........ Which is more than fine. 

 

So i dont see the issue.

[Bananasplit_00]

53 minutes ago, Hellcat_gamer said:

I could buy the pump, hoses, and radiator separately

so, a custom loop?

[For Science!]

I think there is some misunderstanding that there is a difference between an "open loop", "closed loop", "custom loop", "custom closed loop" and "custom open loop".

 

In short, these terms are confusing at best and not necessary. Both custom and all-in-one solutions are operated as "closed loops" in the sense that they do not have openings. What makes a custom loop a custom loop is that you buy and assemble the individual components (blocks, pump, tubing) seperately. Since they first have open endings, people may call them "open loops", but you will close it when things are done, and therefore does it become a "closed loop" afterwards?

 

Some prefer to reserve "closed loops" for all-in-ones and refer to them as CLCs (thinking Gamers Nexus here, for example). Since by design they are not "meant" to be opened, but in my opinion my custom loop is just as closed as an all-in-one so I do not think differentiating loops whether they are closed or not is a sensible term.

[Hellcat_gamer]

57 minutes ago, For Science! said:

I think there is some misunderstanding that there is a difference between an "open loop", "closed loop", "custom loop", "custom closed loop" and "custom open loop".

 

In short, these terms are confusing at best and not necessary. Both custom and all-in-one solutions are operated as "closed loops" in the sense that they do not have openings. What makes a custom loop a custom loop is that you buy and assemble the individual components (blocks, pump, tubing) seperately. Since they first have open endings, people may call them "open loops", but you will close it when things are done, and therefore does it become a "closed loop" afterwards?

 

Some prefer to reserve "closed loops" for all-in-ones and refer to them as CLCs (thinking Gamers Nexus here, for example). Since by design they are not "meant" to be opened, but in my opinion my custom loop is just as closed as an all-in-one so I do not think differentiating loops whether they are closed or not is a sensible term.

So if I want to make a loop but like an AIO I'm not including a reservoir because it won't have air in the entire system? If that makes sense. 

[Hellcat_gamer]

1 hour ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

so, a custom loop?

But I'm only buying a radiator, hoses, and pump. I'm going to fill it 100% of water and not have any air in the system, similar to a AIO 

[GoldenLag]

27 minutes ago, Hellcat_gamer said:

So if I want to make a loop but like an AIO I'm not including a reservoir because it won't have air in the entire system? If that makes sense. 

so a custom loop with less thermal mass because?

 

the resorvoir will only be a benefit. so i dont see why you wouldnt include it. 

[Bananasplit_00]

35 minutes ago, Hellcat_gamer said:

But I'm only buying a radiator, hoses, and pump. I'm going to fill it 100% of water and not have any air in the system, similar to a AIO 

thats going to be extremely hard, i guess good luck if you skip on the reservoir? not sure why you would do that because its not like the reservoir is open to the air or something.

[SolarNova]

Theres no reason you cant remove almost all air from a normal custom loop. You just bleed the loop like normal then top fo the res till its totally full. You'll have no more 'air' in the loop than a AIO.

 

SFF builds for LAN parties have been built with custom loops before as they lend themselves to such cooling due to their limited space above the CPU socket. So its perfectly fine to build one for ur situation.

[LOLZR]

Without a reservoir, how are you going to fill it?

 

Why don't you make a build with EK-ZMT black tubing, it will look mostly like a AIO that way.  Don't worry about moving it around, I found a random build on google and if you do something like this (even if you skipped cooling the GPU) I would have no issues moving this around.

 

Link

[AngryBeaver]

5 hours ago, Hellcat_gamer said:

So my computer is moved constantly from friends to friends and such. I have a Corsair H100i Pro as a cooler. It struggles  to cool the I7-9700 when I overclock it and run it hard so I stopped over clocking it. I just went to a push and pull method with the fans and it helped but still louder then hell running at 100% holding 145°F. Now.....I couldnt find an answer that said no to my question....can I make a custom closed loop with a large radiator? I dont want a normal custom loop as my computer is constantly being moved around and will most likley spill coolant. I'm assuming I'd need to probably change the fluid and tubing at least every 6 months. I have an old H100I V2 (I'll see if the pump still works) that i want to try and just cut the tubing at the radiator end, and install a 480 radiator. (Yes I know its ridiculous, kinda the point of the whole build). I could buy the pump, hoses, and radiator separately but not if i even think it might not work. I can fill it with no air pockets no problem, but is it even worth the time to experiment? Do you have any other ideas or tips? 

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So 145F is like 63C. There is nothing wrong with a 63c when it comes to temps. Those chips can handle up to 105c before they throttle due to heat. Also when you say a custom clc... that isn't exactly how that works. A clc is a closed loop system which is an AIO. There are some AIO's that perform closed to a custom loop and our expandable. I think though you would just be better off lowering your fan curve at those temps to manage the noise level. IF you have the options have your fan speeds scale on water temp. I would say that anything under 80c is great and that you can lower fans curves to bring sound down while still being under those temps.

[Mick Naughty]

You can easily loose the res. Just do a T fitting with a ball valve. Add hose and funnel or a res to that section. Bleed the system, run pump at max speed with the fluid cool. Then close the valve and cap it. Remove the hose and your done. Same as a modern aio. As only a few have blathers now. 

 

Wouldnt need to change tubes and fluid that often. Also shouldn’t be an issue with leaks simple from moving it. 

 

Sounds like you should stick to an aio though. 

[Hellcat_gamer]

14 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

 

Ok let me start over. I'm not transporting my computer constantly with a custom loop, unless if you are saying I can carry my computer sideways and keep the coolant in. Second, I just want to see if I can change just the radiator on a H100I V2 to a 480? Would I be able to just add coolant until it's full? Is that not how a AIO is? I would like to have the fans on quite mode and stay at the 60°C. My setup is more of the most ridiculous bold desktop that makes my friends think I brought a space heater to their house (true story actually). I just want to know if its possible to just switch out the radiator and keep it an aio?

 

Sorry if I came off pissy, wasnt supposed to work a full 10 hours today and I'm irritated. Lol

 

[Dr_badwolf]

Custom is only if you want to be pretty(er)

closed loop has equal efficiency.

Closed loop maintains better.

[Bananasplit_00]

4 hours ago, Hellcat_gamer said:

Ok let me start over. I'm not transporting my computer constantly with a custom loop, unless if you are saying I can carry my computer sideways and keep the coolant in. Second, I just want to see if I can change just the radiator on a H100I V2 to a 480? Would I be able to just add coolant until it's full? Is that not how a AIO is? I would like to have the fans on quite mode and stay at the 60°C. My setup is more of the most ridiculous bold desktop that makes my friends think I brought a space heater to their house (true story actually). I just want to know if its possible to just switch out the radiator and keep it an aio?

 

Sorry if I came off pissy, wasnt supposed to work a full 10 hours today and I'm irritated. Lol

 

You could only swap the rad out if two conditions are met:

1: you find fittings that take the pumps tube

2: the pump is strong enough

 

You can move around an open loop, it's not going to spew coolant everywhere because you put it on its side unless you forgot a plug or something

[Hellcat_gamer]

Ok. I just checked to see if the pump works, now I'm going to cut the hoses off. Ok because I always thought that customs loops are very cautious and not good for moving around.

[Bananasplit_00]

3 hours ago, Hellcat_gamer said:

Ok. I just checked to see if the pump works, now I'm going to cut the hoses off. Ok because I always thought that customs loops are very cautious and not good for moving around.

Good luck with finding fittings, AIO tubing isn't any normal size. Probably won't be trivial to find a fitting that takes that tube and has a G1/4 thread

[Hellcat_gamer]

14 hours ago, Bananasplit_00 said:

Good luck with finding fittings, AIO tubing isn't any normal size. Probably won't be trivial to find a fitting that takes that tube and has a G1/4 thread

The tubing was 3/8 in inner diameter. The pump has barb fittings, so that's covered. I think I'm good, I just have to fill it with the coolant. I'm going to try the 10 part distilled water and normal coolant (I believe it 1 part I'll look back.)