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13 hours ago, tech.guru said:

you best to get ups and move out than. there is other things you could do but i suspect that would cause further wedge. your issue isnt a technical one but a emotional one.

 

you know the solution is an electrician needs to look at the wiring. your father is putting everyones life at risk. i suspect you have seen other issues that leads you to believe poor electrical wiring. 

 

that stuff is behind walls, you can easily fall asleep and something catch on fire. get good smoke detectors

Most of the wiring runs under floor boards and overhead in the loft, not in walls. I have emailed an electrician to take a look at the wiring in my room. We will see what happens. My dad went psycho last time because the electrician asked him for a certificate; this time it will only be my room that will be examined. As long as there are no power issues in my room then it's ok.

If leaving was an option I would have done it a long time ago. Think before you type.

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These are photos of my room when I was renovating it. My dad did the wiring. You can see the type of cable used and how it runs. Easy to get to once the carpet is removed.

 

 

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On 8/11/2019 at 10:31 PM, vjizzle2384 said:

For the problem of your computer going to login screen no matter what you do reset shut down it has to do with your windows 10 fast start up, if you turn that off your computer will work perfectly again I always have it turned off cause it always puts me in a like a cycle and doesn’t shut off.

It IS off. I turned it off a few weeks ago when my GPU died to troubleshoot.

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@grangervoldemort this sounds like a ground loop.

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground_loop_(electricity)

 

Chances are they've mixed up the negative and ground cables for the light fittings (common mistake) but other variations are known to happen. They'll work that way but introduce noise. The following guide should help them:

 

https://www.practicaldiy.com/electrics/lighting-wiring/light-wiring-loop.php

 

The RCD's you desire would detect this and trip all the time (detects that it's using the earth wires instead of the negative for ground).

 

Getting a filtering power cable/extension from Amazon (make sure it's a Prime one and therefore refundable) lets you try it out and should fix the issue without the expense and maintenance of a UPS (which in fairness would also fix the issue). A filtering cable just tries to remove the noisy signal on the power line.

 

If you want to deep dive on the issue may I recommend:

 

https://web.mit.edu/jhawk/tmp/p/EST016_Ground_Loops_handout.pdf

 

@Spotty is correct. Be careful with the council and/or insurers due to part P regulations since 2013 (BS 7671) https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/find-an-electrician/building-regulations/england/ although I appreciate this is out of your hands, but the more you know right (like the bit about it being unlawful)?

 

An electrician refusing to quote for the unknown seems perfectly reasonable. Wouldn't think of them as "dodgy". They could give you a quotation with caveats based on assumptions if they felt it worth their time, but there's a lot of work out there.

 

Also would suggest not discussing a difficult personal situation on a public forum, you never know what may come back to haunt/bite.

 

Disclaimer: I work for a security company who carries out some BS 7671 work to install fused spurs, etc as part of standard installation.

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Also an example UPS capable of handling 840W (assuming this is enough for your purposes) which is Prime and refundable check out:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00TZNQ250

This unit has an awful battery, so it's cheap for a reason, but should do line-interactive enough for your purposes. The display may also help you diagnose what's going on.

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7 hours ago, Metalshark said:

Also would suggest not discussing a difficult personal situation on a public forum, you never know what may come back to haunt/bite.

And why not? I am going public with the abuse that happens at home on my YouTube channel. I audio record the abuse. Have done for years. Met with the police many times but I never disclose anything that could result in them being arrested as it would mean I would become homeless - something I have told the police many times.

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7 hours ago, Metalshark said:

As an example filtering extension cable (that's Prime and refundable) check out:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tacima-6-Way-Mains-Conditioner-black/dp/B00UB0G4DQ

Isn't that a surge protector? I already have a extension socket with surge protection. A masterplug.

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The electrician emailed me back saying he doesn't have the time to do my work. I had to call him after 2 days of him not replying to my email. Over the phone he claimed he has bad signal today and that's the reason why he 'missed' my email - I then told him I emailed him 2 days ago. I called him on his landline number from his website at about 10:30am - if he's really that busy what's he doing at home at that time?

''apologies for missing your email. I’m afraid that I will not be able to help on this occasion as I have a full diary at present. ''

So I emailed back:

''Is it too small a job for you? If you wanted to do it you would have told me when you're going to be free to do it. ''

He replied back:

''yes I’m afraid I am going through a particularly busy time at the moment so I won’t be able to do the job for you unfortunately.''

So I emailed back:

''Until when?''

He replied back:

'' I am currently booking in to the new year.''

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7 hours ago, Metalshark said:

 

@Spotty is correct. Be careful with the council and/or insurers due to part P regulations since 2013 (BS 7671) https://www.electricalsafetyfirst.org.uk/find-an-electrician/building-regulations/england/ although I appreciate this is out of your hands, but the more you know right (like the bit about it being unlawful)?

I have nothing to do with it. He (my dad) is the one that did it all. It is not my property. It is theirs (my stepmum and dad).

I have even told the police that he did it all himself along with an uncle. They didn't care.

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9 minutes ago, grangervoldemort said:

Isn't that a surge protector? I already have a extension socket with surge protection. A masterplug.

It's a "mains conditioner", it performs filtering.

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8 minutes ago, Metalshark said:

It's a "mains conditioner", it performs filtering.

What is? Is what I have that too? I'm confused.

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The problem you have seems to be a ground loop (I cannot verify this) - look at the previous replies.

 

I have given plenty for you to look into.

 

Am going to stop responding on this now as it's getting quite heated.

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14 minutes ago, Metalshark said:

The problem you have seems to be a ground loop (I cannot verify this) - look at the previous replies.

 

I have given plenty for you to look into.

 

Am going to stop responding on this now as it's getting quite heated.

Ermmmm how is it getting heated? I never said what you said is wrong or anything. I asked you about that extension socket. What are you talking about getting heated. No one is angry.....

I very much appreciate your replies.

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This is verging on becoming off topic.

OP, you should not be asking for help with a sensitive home situation on a technology forum. Seek professional assistance.

We can help with your electricity problem, but try not to get into super specific details such as this.

 

Wish you the best

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