Which 2080Ti is best?

[Niel_A]

Assuming price doesn't matter.

[Votivee]

Price doesn't matter?

 

Probably:

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=11G-P4-2589-KR

OR

https://www.asus.com/us/Graphics-Cards/ROG-MATRIX-RTX2080TI-P11G-GAMING/

[Akira Shimazu]

ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 2080 Ti

• Factory boosted clock speed of 1890 MHz
• Max-contact Technology heatsink improves heat transfer
• 12 RGB panels compatible with AURA Sync
• Triple fan cooler enhances temperatures
• With a factory clock speed of 1890 MHz, this card is already overclocked to a level that many other GPUs would struggle with.

[awpshots]

If money is no object, go with the K|NGP|N as previously mentioned or the Asus MATRIX if you can find it anywhere https://www.newegg.com/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-rog-matrix-rtx2080ti-p11g-gaming/p/N82E16814126323

[Fasauceome]

When in doubt, K|ngp|n

[Princess Luna]

13 minutes ago, Niel_A said:

Assuming price doesn't matter.

EVGA KingPin

Galax Hall of Fame

ASUS Matrix

Gigabyte Aorus Waterforce Xtreme

Founders Edition with a waterblock.

[Jurrunio]

Also Galax HOF and MSI Lightning card

 

@Votivee @awpshots Matrix is not even as good as Strix in temperatures and they share the same PCB.

 

10 minutes ago, Wolfycapt said:

With a factory clock speed of 1890 MHz, this card is already overclocked to a level that many other GPUs would struggle with.

Any 2080ti that doesn't hit 2GHz should be considered trash silicon lottery.

[awpshots]

2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Also Galax HOF and MSI Lightning card

 

@Votivee @awpshots Matrix is not even as good as Strix in temperatures and they share the same PCB.

 

Any 2080ti that doesn't hit 2GHz should be considered trash silicon lottery.

They share the same PCB so it’s much easier to bin the top cards. At the end of the day, it’s liquid cooled and a binned chip. That should be enough for a reason to drop the extra couple hundred bucks on it over the Strix (assuming money is no object) whether it be that you just wanna be able to say you have a card with tech first of its kind or simply just peace of mind to protect you from the lottery. 
 

At the end of the day it doesn’t really matter because K|NGP|N is a better choice for someone wanting to throw money at a product 

[awpshots]

15 minutes ago, Wolfycapt said:

ASUS ROG STRIX RTX 2080 Ti

• Factory boosted clock speed of 1890 MHz
• Max-contact Technology heatsink improves heat transfer
• 12 RGB panels compatible with AURA Sync
• Triple fan cooler enhances temperatures
• With a factory clock speed of 1890 MHz, this card is already overclocked to a level that many other GPUs would struggle with.

Definitely not the fastest and willing to admit that even as the owner of one, also isn’t it a little yikes to have just copied from a product page..?

[Votivee]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Also Galax HOF

Completely forgot the HOF cards existed. I drooled over the 980ti HOF when it dropped.

[Jurrunio]

1 minute ago, awpshots said:

They share the same PCB so it’s much easier to bin the top cards. At the end of the day, it’s liquid cooled and a binned chip. That should be enough for a reason to drop the extra couple hundred bucks on it over the Strix (assuming money is no object) whether it be that you just wanna be able to say you have a card with tech first of its kind or simply just peace of mind to protect you from the lottery. 

The stupid thing with the 2080ti Matrix (not to be confused with the air cooled extreme overclocking cards sharing the same Matrix name in the past) is Asus strap the radiator directly onto the card. The ability to kick the heat out somewhere further away from the card, potentially to somewhere with better airflow (PCIe slot area is really not the place for cooling stuff tbh), is the main advantage of liquid cooling compared to air cooling.

 

Now the AIO setup can only defend itself with how small liquid channels in the radiator can more efficiently dump heat to the fins, while air cooler will always win in getting heat out of the GPU die because heatpipes are better at moving heat around than a liquid loop.

 

As a result, it's worse.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-matrix/31.html

 

5 minutes ago, Votivee said:

Completely forgot the HOF cards existed. I drooled over the 980ti HOF when it dropped.

I'm poor so I can only drool over the 750ti HOF

[awpshots]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

The stupid thing with the 2080ti Matrix (not to be confused with the air cooled extreme overclocking cards sharing the same Matrix name in the past) is Asus strap the radiator directly onto the card. The ability to kick the heat out somewhere further away from the card, potentially to somewhere with better airflow (PCIe slot area is really not the place for cooling stuff tbh), is the main advantage of liquid cooling compared to air cooling.

 

Now the AIO setup can only defend itself with how small liquid channels in the radiator can more efficiently dump heat to the fins, while air cooler will always win in getting heat out of the GPU die because heatpipes are better at moving heat around than a liquid loop.

 

As a result, it's worse.

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-2080-ti-matrix/31.html

 

I'm poor so I can only drool over the 750ti HOF

You linked an article praising it while saying that it’s not a good performance card?

 

Maybe I missed something in not actually reading the whole article (I’m a slow reader and that’s a long article) but they’re conclusion as far as I can tell was overwhelmingly positive

[Jurrunio]

4 minutes ago, awpshots said:

You linked an article praising it while saying that it’s not a good performance card?

You can see that the Strix did even better in noise and temperature. I'm sorry, I dont buy the idea of a card that's 25% more expensive (if even at stock) yet performs the same as the cheaper model through a different approach.

[awpshots]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

You can see that the Strix did even better in noise and temperature. I'm sorry, I dont buy the idea of a card that's 25% more expensive (if even at stock) yet performs the same as the cheaper model through a different approach.

Not to be a hair splitter but it’s actually about 19% more expensive

also it’s gonna be louder decibel wise because it has a pump (which you wouldn’t hear from inside a case) temperature wise I was pretty sure it performed better but I don’t remember so I won’t argue that point but at the end of the day you’re paying a price premium for a premium card that’s a showpiece and is the fastest 2080 ti (minus the kingpin)

 

for me personally (a Strix oc 2080 ti owner) I would gladly have shelled out the extra $250 if the matrix was released when I bought my Strix for the “I have it” factor, the subjectively much better aesthetic, and the superior binned performance 

[Jurrunio]

Just now, awpshots said:

temperature wise I was pretty sure it performed better

techpowerup's review literally shows 1C higher temps on the Matrix than the Strix

 

1 minute ago, awpshots said:

Not to be a hair splitter but it’s actually about 19% more expensive

PCPP.us shows $1550 for the Matrix and $1220 for the Strix, so technically speaking 27% more expensive

[awpshots]

6 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

techpowerup's review literally shows 1C higher temps on the Matrix than the Strix

 

PCPP.us shows $1550 for the Matrix and $1220 for the Strix, so technically speaking 27% more expensive

At a time closer to its launch, when I bought my 2080 ti, in like early June/late May, I got my card at micro center for 1300 before tax so either point is valid (also you’re factoring in a limited time sale price??)

 

the fact that you are calling it a hotter card for a 1C difference is kind of irrelevant because that’s well within margin of error. The card is NOT for someone who’d nitpick like that (not trying to be rude but it’s the truth, it’s a premium product and kind of a status symbol so to speak)

[Jurrunio]

16 minutes ago, awpshots said:

the fact that you are calling it a hotter card for a 1C difference is kind of irrelevant because that’s well within margin of error. The card is NOT for someone who’d nitpick like that (not trying to be rude but it’s the truth, it’s a premium product and kind of a status symbol so to speak)

Too bad then the flagship is only within margin of error worse than the card one step below it. All Asus needs to do is to free the radiator from the card itself, or just slap their Ryujin 240 or 360 cooler onto the Strix's PCB.

[awpshots]

3 minutes ago, Jurrunio said:

Too bad then the flagship is only within margin of error worse than the card one step below it. All Asus needs to do is to free the radiator from the card itself, or just slap their Ryujin 240 or 360 cooler onto the Strix's PCB.

The WHOLE point is that it’s a self contained AIO....... if you want a ryujin on a Strix go buy a Strix, kraken Mount from NZXT, and a ryujin. That’s not what this card is for and it’s not what it’s trying to be

[jones177]

With the experience I have with my 2 cards I would go with a hybrid or water block card. My FTW3 Ultra and XC are both heat limited and the overclocks I have on them are to keep them running without downclocking and that is not close their max clock.

So it is the K|NGP|N for me.

 

If there is no 3080 ti in 2020 I am getting one.