Any Changes to part list?

[BobThePCMaker]

Hi,

 

So far this forum has been very helpful in guiding me in choosing the parts for my first PC build!

 

It's a budget build which I'm planning to upgrade in the future (more RAM + graphics card). BUT aside from adding more RAM/Graphics card, are there any changes anyone recommends making to this part list? Likewise, if anyone spots an incompatible part, please let me know

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/BobThePCBuilder25/saved/#view=BTCZf7

 

Bare in mind:

BUDGET

not for high intensive gaming but should play games to an average level.

 

[star_pilot475]

For less than $50 more...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$67.85 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$64.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$59.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Team - MS30 128 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$21.77 @ OutletPC
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$159.99 @ Newegg
Case	DIYPC - P48 ATX Mid Tower Case	$33.95 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - BR 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$39.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$493.33
	Mail-in rebates	-$45.00
	Total	$448.33
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 08:40 EDT-0400

 

[Dedayog]

Looks good to me, but I would see if you can find a motherboard with wifi, maybe shave a few bucks off it.

 

Otherwise it's a great budget setup.

 

If you DO plan on upgrading CPU and adding GPU later, it may behoove you to go with a stronger motherboard like the MSI Tomahawk, it's another $35 tho so it's up to you.

[DVA]

1 minute ago, star_pilot475 said:

For less than $50 more...

PCPartPicker Part List

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$67.85 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$64.99 @ Newegg
Memory	G.Skill - Aegis 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$59.89 @ OutletPC
Storage	Team - MS30 128 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$21.77 @ OutletPC
Video Card	MSI - Radeon RX 580 8 GB ARMOR OC Video Card	$159.99 @ Newegg
Case	DIYPC - P48 ATX Mid Tower Case	$33.95 @ Newegg
Power Supply	EVGA - BR 500 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply	$39.89 @ OutletPC
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$493.33
	Mail-in rebates	-$45.00
	Total	$448.33
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 08:40 EDT-0400

 

OP's build is actually better despite the $50 increase. I'd stick with his to be honest. 

 

@NewBuilder01 The only thing I would suggest is spending an extra 30 bucks for a total of 16 gigs rather than 8. It goes a long way in terms of multi-tasking. Even minuscule things such as surfing the web, trust me. 

[driftz240]

1 minute ago, DVA said:

OP's build is actually better despite the $50 increase. I'd stick with his to be honest. 

 

@NewBuilder01 The only thing I would suggest is spending an extra 30 bucks for a total of 16 gigs rather than 8. It goes a long way in terms of multi-tasking. Even minuscule things such as surfing the web, trust me. 

I think @star_pilot475 build was better for gaming but that 1200 will for sure bottleneck the580 plus theres less storage and no wifi which is something i think the OP needed and added for a reason. I would take this list and step it down to a 570 4gb and put back the hdd and wifi card.

[DVA]

2 minutes ago, driftz240 said:

I think @star_pilot475 build was better for gaming but that 1200 will for sure bottleneck the580 plus theres less storage and no wifi which is something i think the OP needed and added for a reason. I would take this list and step it down to a 570 4gb and put back the hdd and wifi card.

I didn't like the lesser CPU and DIY case. DIY cases, while cheap as hell, also feel cheap and most are heat traps. NO bueno. I do think OP should buy his GPU on Prime Day or something, the 570 does seem like a solid option if low budget is his thing. 

[driftz240]

Just now, DVA said:

I didn't like the lesser CPU and DIY case. DIY cases, while cheap as hell, also feel cheap and most are heat traps. NO bueno. I do think OP should buy his GPU on Prime Day or something, the 570 does seem like a solid option if low budget is his thing. 

Yeah didnt see the diy case. Even though there shouldnt be too much heat from these parts i think something like a TT Versa H15 would be a good option at 30 bucks, tho its only a matx case.

[driftz240]

Hell if you dont want to spend too much on a dedicated gpu you could always go for better integrated graphics...

 

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZqBG7W

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($64.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12III 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.98 @ Newegg) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Inamax - 4332804407 USB 2.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($19.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $430.72
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 08:56 EDT-0400

 

I mean youd need to update the bios but for 30 bucks more you could get smt, 16 gigs of ram, and vega 11 graphics.

[Herman Mcpootis]

9 minutes ago, DVA said:

I didn't like the lesser CPU and DIY case.

the 1200 isn't any worse than the 2200G minus the missing iGPU.

[driftz240]

Just now, Herman Mcpootis said:

the 1200 isn't any worse than the 2200G minus the missing iGPU.

Actually the 2200g performs just sliiightly better.

[Herman Mcpootis]

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($67.85 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($37.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Team - GX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($42.49 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4 GB RED DRAGON Video Card  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Aerocool - Aero-300 FAW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $408.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 09:02 EDT-0400

[driftz240]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 3 1200 3.1 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($67.85 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($64.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($37.89 @ OutletPC) 
Storage: Team - GX2 512 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($42.49 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: PowerColor - Radeon RX 570 4 GB RED DRAGON Video Card  ($119.99 @ Newegg) 
Case: Aerocool - Aero-300 FAW ATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CX (2017) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $408.19
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 09:02 EDT-0400

I think this build is good for gaming, but theres less storage and no wifi.

[Herman Mcpootis]

9 minutes ago, driftz240 said:

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZqBG7W

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 

Power Supply: SeaSonic - S12III 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($19.98 @ Newegg) 

board needs a bios update before you can use the 3400G and the S12iii hasn't been reviewed yet.

[driftz240]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

board needs a bios update before you can use the 3400G and the S12iii hasn't been reviewed yet.

You can get the bios updated at most computer hardware stores like micro center for little to no money and also there are reviews for that psu

 

[Herman Mcpootis]

Just now, driftz240 said:

also there are reviews for that psu

 

S12iii, not the old units. the one review of the current unit ends up being useless since they aren't using any professional equipment.

[Herman Mcpootis]

4 minutes ago, driftz240 said:

You can get the bios updated at most computer hardware stores like micro center for little to no money and also there are reviews for that psu

and there's gonna be a computer store near every household?

[driftz240]

4 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

S12iii, not the old units. the one review of the current unit ends up being useless since they aren't using any professional equipment.

 

4 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

and there's gonna be a computer store near every household?

Ok then do this...

 

PCPartPicker Part List: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2cBG7W

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 3400G 3.7 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($149.00 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard  ($74.89 @ OutletPC) 
Memory: Crucial - Ballistix Sport LT 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-2666 Memory  ($52.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($29.99 @ Amazon) 
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive  ($41.89 @ OutletPC) 
Case: Thermaltake - Versa H15 MicroATX Mid Tower Case  ($29.99 @ Newegg) 
Power Supply: EVGA - BR 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($39.89 @ OutletPC) 
Wireless Network Adapter: Inamax - 4332804407 USB 2.0 802.11a/b/g/n/ac Wi-Fi Adapter  ($19.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $438.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-07-12 09:25 EDT-0400

 

Then buy a 200ge, update the bios, then sell it or just replace the 3400g with a 2400g and save an extra 30 bucks

 

 

 

[LukeSavenije]

13 minutes ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

S12iii, not the old units. the one review of the current unit ends up being useless since they aren't using any professional equipment.

well, i can tell something about it

 

it's a double mag amp, which is in between a dc-dc and group for quality, because it needs a load, but is individually regulated

 

it's fine for like an athlon or 2200g system, but i would do dc-dc on anything more

 

@driftz240

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, driftz240 said:

Ok then do this...

that PSU isn't good quality at all. get a CX450 instead. ordering a bootkit from AMD or getting one of the MSI boards that support bios flashback is a less troublesome option.

[driftz240]

Just now, Herman Mcpootis said:

that PSU isn't good quality at all. get a CX450 instead. ordering a bootkit from AMD or getting one of the MSI boards that support bios flashback is a less troublesome option.

dude i have personally used this psu and can confidently say without a doubt that it is just fine

[Herman Mcpootis]

1 minute ago, driftz240 said:

dude i have personally used this psu and can confidently say without a doubt that it is just fine

and lots of people have used crapo logisys units for a couple days and it worked fine, does it change the fact that it's bad?

[driftz240]

1 minute ago, Herman Mcpootis said:

and lots of people have used crapo logisys units for a couple days and it worked fine, does it change the fact that it's bad?

Welp I think the conclusion is you cant really make a better parts list than anyone has made on this without either:

A.) Raising the budget... or

B.) Skimping out on parts or quality of parts

 

We good? hopefully cause at this point the back and forth we've had is makin me do this...

 

[LukeSavenije]

16 minutes ago, driftz240 said:

dude i have personally used this psu and can confidently say without a doubt that it is just fine

and i can confidentially say that you have no idea how PSUs work... i literally listed above why it is a bad idea

 

and that bt isn't better either, 30 degree operation is horrible

 

edit: br and bt both are 30 degree, sorry

Edited July 12, 2019 by LukeSavenije

[driftz240]

4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

and i can confidentially say that you have no idea how PSUs work... i literally listed above why it is a bad idea

 

and that bt isn't better either, 30 degree operation is horrible

Ok this is the point where i stop argueing and being naive, sorry bout that anyways, What makes it so bad tho?

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, driftz240 said:

Ok this is the point where i stop argueing and being naive, sorry bout that anyways, What makes it so bad tho?

the s12iii or bt/br?