Is my CPU my bottleneck?

[Dynatos99]

I’ve this setup now since Jan. While I enjoy it, I would have thought I would be running games higher FPS on ultra and more stable.  Is my cpu my main bottleneck? Should I overclock it? or upgrade to the new ryzen series? It sucks cause now I have extra money that if I did when I built this I would have went a different way.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Suspect3d/saved/QGPq4D

[ComputerEnjoyer762]

So... When it comes to high framerates, better single-threaded performance will always dominate, which is why you're seeing bottlenecking here compared to a similar classed Intel rig.

 

If you want to minimize the bottleneck, it should pretty much be gone at 1440p. Maybe not completely, but enough to not be hugely noticeable. At 4K, it'd pretty much be gone, but I'm not sure the lower quality at 4K would be worth it anyway.

 

All in all, the short answer is "yes", but it all depends what you're looking for when you play games, because taking the above into consideration, the answer could become "no" very quickly depending on the conditions.

[TarunM10]

Yes. But this wouldn't be one of the best cases of bottlenecks. If you want to avoid this, you might approach something closer to a ryzen 7 2700, 2700 E or even a 1800X. You could alternatively wait for Ryen 3rd Gen. Could you convert to a Threadripper with the "Extra Money'?

[Dynatos99]

2 minutes ago, TarunM10 said:

Yes. But this wouldn't be one of the best cases of bottlenecks. If you want to avoid this, you might approach something closer to a ryzen 7 2700, 2700 E or even a 1800X. You could alternatively wait for Ryen 3rd Gen. Could you convert to a Threadripper with the "Extra Money'?

Which thread ripper? Lol

[Constantin]

No bottleneck here!

[LienusLateTips]

38 minutes ago, TarunM10 said:

Yes. But this wouldn't be one of the best cases of bottlenecks. If you want to avoid this, you might approach something closer to a ryzen 7 2700, 2700 E or even a 1800X. You could alternatively wait for Ryen 3rd Gen. Could you convert to a Threadripper with the "Extra Money'?

Threadripper will be slower for gaming than a Ryzen 7 or a Zen 2 chip due to lower clock speed.

 

59 minutes ago, Dynatos99 said:

I’ve this setup now since Jan. While I enjoy it, I would have thought I would be running games higher FPS on ultra and more stable.  Is my cpu my main bottleneck? Should I overclock it? or upgrade to the new ryzen series? It sucks cause now I have extra money that if I did when I built this I would have went a different way.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Suspect3d/saved/QGPq4D

No bottlenecking, not much at least.

[Crunchy Dragon]

Ultra settings are kind of pointless, they're not really much better than High.

 

You shouldn't have any bottlenecking going on.

[xg32]

i could see a few cases above 90fps where it's a small bottleneck, check if ur motherboard will support zen 2 on release.

 

Before you decide to upgrade, might as well see what it does on 4.1-4.2

[boey]

1 hour ago, Dynatos99 said:

I’ve this setup now since Jan. While I enjoy it, I would have thought I would be running games higher FPS on ultra and more stable.  Is my cpu my main bottleneck? Should I overclock it? or upgrade to the new ryzen series? It sucks cause now I have extra money that if I did when I built this I would have went a different way.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Suspect3d/saved/QGPq4D

Ryzen 1st and 2nd gen will always bottleneck slightly in games due to lower single-threaded performance compared to Intel, your motherboard should support ryzen 3000 when it's released, so I'd recommend upgrading to that, since it provides a huge single-threaded performance increase over ryzen 2000.

[BigRom]

1 hour ago, TarunM10 said:

Yes. But this wouldn't be one of the best cases of bottlenecks. If you want to avoid this, you might approach something closer to a ryzen 7 2700, 2700 E or even a 1800X. You could alternatively wait for Ryen 3rd Gen. Could you convert to a Threadripper with the "Extra Money'?

Threadripper isn't meant for gaming, most of its cores will be redundant anyway during gaming. The Threadripper is for heavy multi-threaded workloads.

[Dynatos99]

10 hours ago, bmichaels556 said:

So... When it comes to high framerates, better single-threaded performance will always dominate, which is why you're seeing bottlenecking here compared to a similar classed Intel rig.

 

If you want to minimize the bottleneck, it should pretty much be gone at 1440p. Maybe not completely, but enough to not be hugely noticeable. At 4K, it'd pretty much be gone, but I'm not sure the lower quality at 4K would be worth it anyway.

 

All in all, the short answer is "yes", but it all depends what you're looking for when you play games, because taking the above into consideration, the answer could become "no" very quickly depending on the conditions.

I think my issue that I see and have a problem with is I came from xb1x . While the monitor I have is an OK 1440p I still see a massive FPS drop in most AAA games.  Which honestly I would expect not to be seeing it at all for my system. Yes I try to run ultra and back down the settings depending on the game to gain performance.

[Quadriplegic]

11 hours ago, TarunM10 said:

Yes. But this wouldn't be one of the best cases of bottlenecks. If you want to avoid this, you might approach something closer to a ryzen 7 2700, 2700 E or even a 1800X. You could alternatively wait for Ryen 3rd Gen. Could you convert to a Threadripper with the "Extra Money'?

How would any of those CPUs reduce bottleneck, if Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 have same clock speeds and IPC?

Threadripper would be even worse.

@Dynatos99 What kind of bottleneck are you experiencing? Have you disabled Vsync in games and Nvidia control panel?

[Dynatos99]

1 hour ago, Quadriplegic said:

How would any of those CPUs reduce bottleneck, if Ryzen 5 and Ryzen 7 have same clock speeds and IPC?

Threadripper would be even worse.

@Dynatos99 What kind of bottleneck are you experiencing? Have you disabled Vsync in games and Nvidia control panel?

@Quadriplegic depends on the game. I’ve been told it’s my cpu. But I’ll get massive FPS swings ranging from 30-50 FPS drops on Witcher 3 or div2. Yes for I try to tune every game. I just would have expected this rig to run 1440p more stable I guess.

[Dynatos99]

16 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

Ultra settings are kind of pointless, they're not really much better than High.

 

You shouldn't have any bottlenecking going on.

Thanks @Crunchy Dragon interesting video.