8086k vs 8700k vs 9700k or wait!

[Turtle Rig]

A buddy of mine has a 2600 Sandy with I believe a clock of 4.2Ghz.  He recently picked up a 1070 used and is bit*hin about frame rates.  So I told him the CPU is holding him back and asked his budget which is couple hundred dollars.  About 300 to 400 dollars.  He started ranting about should he ditch Intel and wait for the new Ryzen I told him about.  I just told him it will most probably be faster then the Intel variants.  Then he asked me about core count as he uses Premiere a lot.  A possible Ryzen 30xx 12c chip is on the horizon and that opened his eyes.  He can wait a month or two but also wants higher frame rates in games ASAP.  What should I recommend he does ?  Which Intel CPU 9700k ?  Or which Ryzen CPU for good gaming and good Premiere.  Thanks bunch!  Were getting closer to the picture being much clearer.

[Dedayog]

1 minute ago, Turtle Rig said:

A buddy of mine has a 2600 Sandy with I believe a clock of 4.2Ghz.  He recently picked up a 1070 used and is bit*hin about frame rates.  So I told him the CPU is holding him back and asked his budget which is couple hundred dollars.  About 300 to 400 dollars.  He started ranting about should he ditch Intel and wait for the new Ryzen I told him about.  I just told him it will most probably be faster then the Intel variants.  Then he asked me about core count as he uses Premiere a lot.  A possible Ryzen 30xx 12c chip is on the horizon and that opened his eyes.  He can wait a month or two but also wants higher frame rates in games ASAP.  What should I recommend he does ?  Which Intel CPU 9700k ?  Or which Ryzen CPU for good gaming and good Premiere.  Thanks bunch!  Were getting closer to the picture being much clearer.

You literally answered your own question.  Wait.

 

Nm.

[Princess Luna]

Seriously, we are 5 days from Computex...

[SupaKomputa]

You're asking this thing a lot of times...

At this time, the best decision is to wait for Ryzen 3000.

At 400$ the 9700k already taken 3/4 of the money.

 

Which Ryzen good for premiere? All ryzen are good i think.

The difference is just the waiting for the render.

[Brooksie359]

I would definitely wait at this point. We should have more details on the 27th so there is little reason not to wait for more info. We may even get a confirmed release date and product specs. 

[Princess Luna]

6 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Which Ryzen good for premiere? All ryzen are good i think.

The thing is, if you want a Ryzen and Radeon for video editing you should use Vegas Pro, when people insist on Premiere Pro there is no way around it, Intel and nVidia does trashes AMD on it.

 

an i9 9900K will easily outperform a TR 2950X on Premiere Pro while OpenCL support is so mediocre CUDA Acceleration trashes Radeon cards.

 

On the other hand like mentioned Vegas Pro will put the Ryzen 7 2700X in a much better position against the i9 9900K and it uses OpenCL so well you'll see the Radeon 7 trading blows with the RTX TITAN.

 

It is all about choosing the correct hardware to your software and not fanboying about a brand or going with generic thoughts like "AMD is best at workstations" that makes no sense.

[Vandey]

19 minutes ago, Turtle Rig said:

A buddy of mine has a 2600 Sandy with I believe a clock of 4.2Ghz.  He recently picked up a 1070 used and is bit*hin about frame rates.  So I told him the CPU is holding him back and asked his budget which is couple hundred dollars.  About 300 to 400 dollars.  He started ranting about should he ditch Intel and wait for the new Ryzen I told him about.  I just told him it will most probably be faster then the Intel variants.  Then he asked me about core count as he uses Premiere a lot.  A possible Ryzen 30xx 12c chip is on the horizon and that opened his eyes.  He can wait a month or two but also wants higher frame rates in games ASAP.  What should I recommend he does ?  Which Intel CPU 9700k ?  Or which Ryzen CPU for good gaming and good Premiere.  Thanks bunch!  Were getting closer to the picture being much clearer.

If he gets the new intel chip he'll also need a new Mobo and RAM... probably end up more like $700 in the end depending on what MOBO and RAM he wants...

[SupaKomputa]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

The thing is, if you want a Ryzen and Radeon for video editing you should use Vegas Pro, when people insist on Premiere Pro there is no way around it, Intel and nVidia does trashes AMD on it.

 

an i9 9900K will easily outperform a TR 2950X on Premiere Pro while OpenCL support is so mediocre CUDA Acceleration trashes Radeon cards.

 

On the other hand like mentioned Vegas Pro will put the Ryzen 7 2700X in a much better position against the i9 9900K and it uses OpenCL so well you'll see the Radeon 7 trading blows with the RTX TITAN.

 

It is all about choosing the correct hardware to your software and not fanboying about a brand or going with generic thoughts like "AMD is best at workstations" that makes no sense.

Funny, i switched from Vegas pro to Premiere after i build my ryzen.

I just feel Vegas pro is just not utilizing the multithreading enough.

You can't compare Vegas with Premiere, i think both have different features, Vegas is good for beginners, but for more serious work i prefer Premiere.

As for Cuda and Opencl, i found no major difference in rendering time, i tried both.

Yes intel will render faster in h264 with quicksync enabled, but that just it, other encoders is just the same, which one has the more threads is the winner.

But if you asked me, i'm pretty happy with the performance.

[Daniel644]

given the recent exploitations found in Intel CPU's I would say wait, see what 3000 has to offer and then decide if the unsecure Intel chips are worth the risk..