GTX 1650 or used RX 560/GTX 1050Ti (PSU without 6-/8-pins)

[Frizzer107]

I'm in a strange situation right now:

My current system is an i5-4460S (4C/4T@ 3GHz) and a GTX 750 on an MSI mobo and with a PSU without any 6- or 8-pin connectors. And while that 750 has done a good job so far, it's become a real pain by now. But the thing is, I will only be able to use that system for another 1.5 years (exactly why doesn't matter here).

 

So my question is, should I buy a used RX 560 or GTX 1050Ti for around 100€ or spend the additional 50€ for a GTX 1650 but only gain a 30-35% performance increase at best?

While the first is obviously the better bang for my buck, 1.5 years is a really long time in terms of games and computer hardware, so it's quite possible a 1050Ti ain't gonna cut it then and I will be in the same position as I am now. And while the 1650 has an awful value in most cases, it will give me the best performance possible today without needing to upgrade my PSU as well because of those power connectors.

[Right Side Gone]

A 30-35% performance increase is pretty significant. Id go with the 1650. Unless you have the budget to upgrade ypur psu, in which case id get an rx 580. If ypure able to stretch your budget that much. You can find fairly decent PSUs for 50. 

[Fasauceome]

7 minutes ago, Frizzer107 said:

i5-4460S

With such a weak CPU, you won't be able to take advantage of the speed of a 1650 over a 1050 ti. If you get a used 1050 ti off eBay for a good price, that would be the best you should go for.

[Right Side Gone]

Wait what is ypur psu? They sell adapters. That might be an option dependant on your psu. Will stretch more value out

[Right Side Gone]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

With such a weak CPU, you won't be able to take advantage of the speed of a 1650 over a 1050 ti. If you get a used 1050 ti off eBay for a good price, that would be the best you should go for.

That CPU is perfectly fine for a 1650 man. 

[JoostinOnline]

1 minute ago, fasauceome said:

With such a weak CPU, you won't be able to take advantage of the speed of a 1650 over a 1050 ti. If you get a used 1050 ti off eBay for a good price, that would be the best you should go for.

That's not true. He may have to tweak his settings, but a 4460S is still decent.

[Fasauceome]

Just now, FockYourAdsLinus said:

That CPU is perfectly fine for a 1650 man. 

it's also perfectly fine for a 1050 ti, the same amount of perfectly fine actually. The amount spent extra on the 1650 will not be seen in performance.

[Frizzer107]

2 minutes ago, FockYourAdsLinus said:

Wait what is ypur psu? 

It's really crappy, still HP OEM, about 200W as far as I can tell

[Right Side Gone]

1 minute ago, Frizzer107 said:

It's really crappy, still HP OEM, about 200W as far as I can tell

I would reccomend upgrading the psu first honestly. Can also pribably find a 770 cheaper than a 1050ti. That way you can upgrade both. Unless we are talking about a proprietary HP mobo. In which case in may be possible to get an adapter for the psu. 

[JoostinOnline]

4 minutes ago, Frizzer107 said:

It's really crappy, still HP OEM, about 200W as far as I can tell

It should say the amount on the power supply.

 

But if you upgrade your PSU then you can get an RX 570 which is better and cheaper than a 1650.

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, Frizzer107 said:

It's really crappy, still HP OEM, about 200W as far as I can tell

Always spend the little extra on a good PSU, if it's a system you care about.

[Frizzer107]

1 minute ago, JoostinOnline said:

It should say the amount on the power supply.

Says 180W...

[Dabombinable]

10 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

With such a weak CPU, you won't be able to take advantage of the speed of a 1650 over a 1050 ti. If you get a used 1050 ti off eBay for a good price, that would be the best you should go for.

RX 580 don't have any issues when paired with an i5 4440 in most games 

[Frizzer107]

Just now, fasauceome said:

Always spend the little extra on a good PSU, if it's a system you care about.

Problem is my budget won't allow for that 

[Right Side Gone]

Just now, Frizzer107 said:

Problem is my budget won't allow for that 

What is your budget? Also is ypur board a 20-24 pin power connection or something else?

[Fasauceome]

1 minute ago, Dabombinable said:

RX 580 don't have any issues when paired with an i5 4440 in most games 

An i5 7400, a better CPU, bottlenecks a weaker GPU, a GTX 970, so "most games" is not accurate. Some games would be fine however.

[Right Side Gone]

I wouldnt really trust a 180w psu even with a low power 1050ti . 

[Dabombinable]

Just now, fasauceome said:

An i5 7400, a better CPU, bottlenecks a weaker GPU, a GTX 970, so "most games" is not accurate. Some games would be fine however.

I have an i5 4440+RX 580 right next to me. The game with which I've had the most issues is Fallout 4. And then only in downtown Boston. Ark Survival, Dark and Light, Battlefield V, Space Engineers, 7 Days to Die and Atlas have no problems at all.

BTW, my GTX 970 also only had problems with the i5 4440 in down town Boston when playing FO4.

[Fasauceome]

5 minutes ago, Dabombinable said:

I have an i5 4440+RX 580 right next to me. The game with which I've had the most issues is Fallout 4. And then only in downtown Boston. Ark Survival, Dark and Light, Battlefield V, Space Engineers, 7 Days to Die and Atlas have no problems at all.

BTW, my GTX 970 also only had problems with the i5 4440 in down town Boston when playing FO4.

Stuttering occurs in Skyrim, overwatch, for Honor, and dark souls 3 on the 7400 system. 

[Dabombinable]

Just now, fasauceome said:

Stuttering occurs in Skyrim, overwatch, for Honor, and dark souls 3 on the 7400 system. 

Must be something different about your system.

[Princess Luna]

11 minutes ago, Frizzer107 said:

Problem is my budget won't allow for that 

Wait until it does so you don't end up with a dead GTX 1650 because you wanted to use a 180W power supply with cables as fin as floss.

[Jurrunio]

44 minutes ago, Frizzer107 said:

Problem is my budget won't allow for that 

Unless you're pricing is out of whack, RX 570 + decent PSU still costs less than a 1650

[JoostinOnline]

2 hours ago, Frizzer107 said:

Problem is my budget won't allow for that 

If you can afford a 1650, then you can afford a lower end 450W PSU and an RX 570 4GB.

2 hours ago, fasauceome said:

An i5 7400, a better CPU, bottlenecks a weaker GPU, a GTX 970, so "most games" is not accurate. Some games would be fine however.

Maybe if you have V-Sync off or are trying to play at a high refresh rate.

2 hours ago, fasauceome said:

Stuttering occurs in Skyrim, overwatch, for Honor, and dark souls 3 on the 7400 system. 

Then your system is messed up. Having issues with Skyrim on a 7400 is especially weird. I mean issues aside from the normal ones, because it's a buggy mess. It could even consistently get 60fps on my old Haswell i3. Hell, I even ran Skyrim on a Core 2 Quad without stuttering, and it was at 2.6GHz.  As I recall the settings were at medium, but that's over 10 years old. I suggest starting a new thread if you want suggestions fixing it.

[Taintedmind]

4 hours ago, Frizzer107 said:

Says 180W...

The lowest grade GTX 1650 I could find requires at least a 300w power supply.

 

The lowest priced AMD 570 I've seen is $130 for a 4gb and $140 for an 8gb new w/2 free games (World War Z and The Division 2 - Gold).