Am I wrong? TV vs Monitor

[Telesto]

Hi all,

I'm in the process of recommending a new PC build for a friend.

He is convinced that using a high power GPU with fancy ray tracing etc, that will only EVER be used on a 60Hz 60FPS 1080p TV via HDMI, will still give great results.

This is based on his theory that "All the GPU does, is tell the TV pixels what colour to be" so it does not matter (as long as he sits far away from the TV and doesn't care about refresh rate, latency etc).

I've run out of issues to discuss regarding this theory and I need *indisputable* compelling evidence that there is no point buying a "High End" GPU and plug it into a TV via HDMI.

Can anyone help with the above, or am I wrong?

 

[badreg]

Ray tracing has nothing to do with resolution, refresh rate or the display itself. On some games, it does require a 2080ti for 1080p60hz, so your friend is correct.

[TomvanWijnen]

I personally like to, brace for the devil, "future proof" wherever reasonable, so if you buy an awesome graphics card right now it might last you 10 years or whatever on a 1080p 60Hz setup until newer games finally start to dip below 60 fps.

[Firewrath9]

TVs tend to have bad input lag, can be 50ms+.

go to a electronics store, and compare a 144hz screen vs 60hz.

 

[glenalz81]

Your friend will see every bit of 1080p detail at 60fps,  every frame after that is wasted.

 

If your friend has never experienced high refresh rate gaming then he isn't missing anything, if he says he's not worried about latency then again he's not missing anything.

 

You can drag a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

[maestro0428]

Yeah, the response time is usually slower on TVs, than on a decent PC monitor.  I wouldn't recommend a tv connected to a PC for gaming, Ive seen it done, tried it myself and PC monitors are just better.

[Telesto]

TY. What would would be the "Pro's and Cons" of hooking up a 2060ish GPU to a TV as opposed to a monitor to play non-competitive games?

Would a different GPU be more appropriate?

It would be on a brand new build mid-range in *probably* an ITX square case.

 

Addendum.

Got replies while I was away. He did see my 2560 x1440, 144, 27" monitor last time I saw him and he loved it.

Maybe going "Over the top" on a 20 series card might be the best option in case he decides to get a monitor (or newer TV) ?

[badreg]

25 minutes ago, glenalz81 said:

Response time is where there's a big difference, with decent monitors being 1-5ms, most large TVs are in the 30-50ms range.

Sources for this? 50ms response time imputes an effective frame rate of 20Hz. I think that you are conflating response time with input lag, and the differences for both are far less between a monitor and a TV than you are implying.

[Princess Luna]

There is absolutely nothing wrong using a TV for gaming, but for 1080p60fps I'd personally only go as far as picking the RTX 2060... the RTX 2070 is not worth the extra cost as performance boost is minimal and RTX 2080 will already be "bottlenecked" by the display making it pointless.

[glenalz81]

16 minutes ago, badreg said:

I think that you are conflating response time with input lag

Yup, my bad. That's what i meant.

[Telesto]

You have all have helped me out sooo much. Thanks