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Z390 or X470 and B450 chipset Motherboard suggestions?

I'm terrible with Motherboards, but I'd like some suggestions of the Z390,X470, and B450 chipsets.

Ones with decent or at least basic features such as Wi-Fi, perhaps M.2 (not sure if I'll need it yet),support for 3200 ram etc

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From personal experience, Gigabyte makes excellent B450 and X470 boards with WiFi, the WiFi itself is kinda mediocre but the board quality is great. Were you looking for a really good built in WiFi module or just something to get the job done?

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23 minutes ago, ResidingSoul said:

I'm terrible with Motherboards, but I'd like some suggestions of the Z390,X470, and B450 chipsets.

Ones with decent or at least basic features such as Wi-Fi, perhaps M.2 (not sure if I'll need it yet),support for 3200 ram etc

What budget/country for the PC and what do you need it for besides gaming?

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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I believe the first thing you should decide on is what chipset you want to go as in Intel or AMD? The motherboard line ups change a lot from one to another.

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pick your board after considering the form factor (so ATX desktop or mITX shoebox) and CPU.

31 minutes ago, fasauceome said:

the WiFi itself is kinda mediocre but the board quality is great.

I dont know if the Wifi is good or not, but boards arent good in software (steep learning curve to be exact). As for hardware, Gigabyte's B450 and X470 boards except the X470 Gaming 7 are all low-end. They dont have a mid range VRM design like they do on X370 with the X370 Gaming 5.

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9 hours ago, fasauceome said:

From personal experience, Gigabyte makes excellent B450 and X470 boards with WiFi, the WiFi itself is kinda mediocre but the board quality is great. Were you looking for a really good built in WiFi module or just something to get the job done?

I'd like one with great Wi-Fi but all options are available as it's just need to work mostly.

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8 hours ago, Princess Luna said:

I believe the first thing you should decide on is what chipset you want to go as in Intel or AMD? The motherboard line ups change a lot from one to another.

Yeah I was gonna go Intel 9700k but I just wanted some recommendations for AMD Ryzen 7 2700x if I decided to go that route instead

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9 hours ago, Streetguru said:

What budget/country for the PC and what do you need it for besides gaming?

image.png.03cb360b3d3de9e651d8d4667c2d6520.png2000$ USD (May go to 2500 later)

I plan on doing streaming/productivity etc as well as heavy gaming

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12 hours ago, ResidingSoul said:

And are you sure you want to spend that much? Because an R7 1700 + RTX 2060 is like $800-900 and will do the job just fine at 1080p 144hz.

I edit my posts a lot, Twitter is @LordStreetguru just don't ask PC questions there mostly...
 

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What is your budget/country for your new PC?

 

what monitor resolution/refresh rate?

 

What games or other software do you need to run?

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Streetguru said:

And are you sure you want to spend that much? Because an R7 1700 + RTX 2060 is like $800-900 and will do the job just fine at 1080p 144hz.

I won't be hitting my max budget but you have a point.

I'm looking a little bit here more towards performance/options less than value, it's my first PC so maybe I could drop down to a 2070 not sure yet

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13 hours ago, ResidingSoul said:

Yeah I was gonna go Intel 9700k but I just wanted some recommendations for AMD Ryzen 7 2700x if I decided to go that route instead

B450 gaming pro carbon I can recommend if you are going with the 2700x (have the combo myself and it works beautifully 

 

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X470: Asus - ROG Crosshair VII Hero / Gigabyte - X470 AORUS GAMING 7 / ASRock - X470 Taichi / Asus - ROG STRIX X470-F / MSI - X470 GAMING PRO CARBON 

 

B450MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS / MSI - B450 GAMING PRO CARBON / MSI - B450 TOMAHAWK / MSI - B450M MORTAR

 

Z390: Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ULTRA / Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS PRO Gigabyte - Z390 AORUS ELITE / ASRock - Z390 Phantom Gaming-ITX/ac

 

If any of these boards don't come with a WIFI variant you can just buy a pcie WIFI card. Any z390 more expensive than the Aorus Ultra is probably excellent. People shit on Asus Maximus XI's power delivery which I think is nonsense. I've tried a few z390's with my 9900k and the Max XI hero got better overclock's at lower voltage then any of them. And the VRM temps were fine. That being said the mid range Aorus boards have the best power delivery for the money. 

 

Which of these platforms is potentially best for you depends on what GPU you select, what resolution you play at, and what kind of games you play. If you will be potentially GPU bound with your GPU and resolution of choice, going AMD is probably the best choice from a value standpoint. If you are going for high frame rates at low resolution the clock speed and IPC advantage of Intel offsets the core/thread disadvantage in the same price brackets vs AMD. Whether or not you can actually see an extra 30 FPS when pushing over 120 is debatable IMO. It's a lot of extra money to spend mostly for bragging rights. 

 

Be wary of buying any CPU right now. Ryzen 3000 is right around the corner and Intel is about to release a bunch of new 9th gen variants. I'd wait until the end of May to decide if possible. Announcements should be coming about Ryzen 3000 at computex.  These announcements could turn the consumer desktop CPU market on its head. If you decide ryzen is best for your needs, and need a holdover CPU while the dust settles on 3000 series, the R5 1600 is an excellent choice. Here in the US it costs half that of a 2600 at Micro Center. 

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