Differences with tuf and rog

[Cemil2565]

i have asus rog strix z390-e motherboard, iam gonna buy the corsair 280x case and need a smaller motherboard.

someone wants to trade it with a ssus tuf z390m pro gaming mobo, is it a good deal ? what are the differences between these two?

(using i79700k oc 4.9ghz)

[LukeSavenije]

tuf is much worse

 

and strix is better, but still there's better outside of gigabyte

[Fasauceome]

4 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

but still there's better outside of gigabyte

You mean Asus?

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, fasauceome said:

You mean Asus?

i did

 

there's better at gigabyte for example, that's what i meant

[Firewrath9]

The Z390M gaming, or the Z390M gaming Edge AC are both much better.

[-rascal-]

7 minutes ago, Cemil2565 said:

i have asus rog strix z390-e motherboard, iam gonna buy the corsair 280x case and need a smaller motherboard.

someone wants to trade it with a ssus tuf z390m pro gaming mobo, is it a good deal ? what are the differences between these two?

(using i79700k oc 4.9ghz)

 

The ASUS Z390M Pro WiFi is a lower tier motherboard than your STriX Z390-E.

Unless it's motherboard + something else, that is an unfair trade.

 

The TUF Z390M Pro WiFi also uses a weaker VRM system compared to the Z390-E.

Do you NEED to stick with ASUS motherobards?

 

[Cemil2565]

Just now, Firewrath9 said:

The Z390M gaming, or the Z390M gaming Edge AC are both much better.

i want a asus rog z390-i.. but noone wants to sell their mobo, just gonna wait 1 month more and buy by myself

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, Cemil2565 said:

i want a asus rog z390-i.. but noone wants to sell their mobo, just gonna wait 1 month more and buy by myself

you want a itx? get a msi b450i gaming plus

[Princess Luna]

1 minute ago, Cemil2565 said:

i want a asus rog z390-i.. but noone wants to sell their mobo, just gonna wait 1 month more and buy by myself

It's on the very expensive side but there's the ROG z390 Maximus XI Gene... if you use a Noctua NH-L12S or Noctua NH-L9x65 you can run that i7 9700K at 5ghz on a very small case.

[-rascal-]

The Gigabyte Z390 M Gaming (mATX)

MSi Z390M Gaming Edge (mATX)

 

Gigabyte Z390-i Aorus Pro WiFi (ITX)

MSi Z390i Edge (ITX)

AsRock Phantom Gaming ITX/AC (ITX)

 

would more a bit more comparable to your Z390-E.

 

 

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

you want a itx? get a msi b450i gaming plus

 

OP's using a i7-9700K, not AMD Ryzen,

[Cemil2565]

4 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

The ASUS Z390M Pro WiFi is a lower tier motherboard than your STriX Z390-E.

Unless it's motherboard + something else, that is an unfair trade.

 

The TUF Z390M Pro WiFi also uses a weaker VRM system compared to the Z390-E.

Do you NEED to stick with ASUS motherobards?

 

 

5 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

The ASUS Z390M Pro WiFi is a lower tier motherboard than your STriX Z390-E.

Unless it's motherboard + something else, that is an unfair trade.

 

The TUF Z390M Pro WiFi also uses a weaker VRM system compared to the Z390-E.

Do you NEED to stick with ASUS motherobards?

 

is maximus xi gene best mini mobo ?

 

[Cemil2565]

1 minute ago, Princess Luna said:

It's on the very expensive side but there's the ROG z390 Maximus XI Gene... if you use a Noctua NH-L12S or Noctua NH-L9x65 you can run that i7 9700K at 5ghz on a very small case.

i use corsair h150i pro but iam gonna switch to h115i pro 280mm due the case size

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, -rascal- said:

OP's using a i7-9700K, not AMD Ryzen,

i need another coffee

 

I vote for the phantom

[-rascal-]

Just now, Cemil2565 said:

 

 

For ITX form factor?

From what I am aware, yes, the Maximus Gene XI Gene is one of the best mATX board out there -- over-built board.

It it actually BETTER than your Z390-E on the VRM front.

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, -rascal- said:

 

For ITX form factor?

From what I am aware, yes, the Maximus Gene XI Gene is one of the best mATX board out there -- over-built board.

It it actually BETTER than your Z390-E on the VRM front.

and it's like 300-400 bucks...

 

it's really good tho

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, Cemil2565 said:

i use corsair h150i pro but iam gonna switch to h115i pro 280mm due the case size

or just get a air cooler?

 

or is that too simple thought?

[Cemil2565]

1 minute ago, -rascal- said:

 

For ITX form factor?

From what I am aware, yes, the Maximus Gene XI Gene is one of the best mATX board out there -- over-built board.

It it actually BETTER than your Z390-E on the VRM front.

but i use only 4.9ghz, 5ghz getting little toasty i dont wanna higher the fan speeds, also using 4266mhz 2x8gb ram from skill but running on 3600mhz, 1 m.2 samsung evo and 1 gpu rtx 2080, for my usage whats the best mobo do you think ? ITX, isnt gene overpowered for me 

[Cemil2565]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

or just get a air cooler?

 

or is that too simple thought?

i like aio looks and h115i looks good on corsair 280x

[Jurrunio]

Best board for mATX is the Maximus 11 Gene, that's it. mATX boards of Z370 and Z390 chipsets are mostly weak, to a point that even mITX outperforms (apart from the EVGA Z370 Micro, but I dont know if EVGA has 9th gen support for that since there's no Z390 Micro).

[Firewrath9]

16 minutes ago, Cemil2565 said:

 

 

13 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

and it's like 300-400 bucks...

 

it's really good tho

its only for LN2.

thats the only real reason to use it.

as a cheaper Maximus XI apex (most ppl use gene over apex)

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, Firewrath9 said:

 

its only for LN2.

thats the only real reason to use it.

as a cheaper Maximus XI apex (most ppl use gene over apex)

or high end desktops

 

like what @Princess Luna did

[-rascal-]

11 minutes ago, Cemil2565 said:

but i use only 4.9ghz, 5ghz getting little toasty i dont wanna higher the fan speeds, also using 4266mhz 2x8gb ram from skill but running on 3600mhz, 1 m.2 samsung evo and 1 gpu rtx 2080, for my usage whats the best mobo do you think ? ITX, isnt gene overpowered for me 

 

How much Core Voltage are you using for your 4.9 GHz overclock?

The i7-9700K is not as power hungry as the i9-9900K at 4.9 / 5.0 GHz...

The Gigabyte Z390M Gaming, should be suitable ... more or less

[Cemil2565]

Just now, -rascal- said:

 

How much Core Voltage are you using for your 4.9 GHz overclock?

The i7-9700K is not as power hungry as the i9-9900K at 4.9 / 5.0 GHz...

The Gigabyte Z390M Gaming, should be suitable ... more or less

its auto i think i dont change these things, only all cores 49 and xmp for ram, but is gigabyte z390m gaming better than my current mobo ? i want the same or better but not overpowered 11 gene for higher ocs.

[Cemil2565]

3 minutes ago, -rascal- said:

 

How much Core Voltage are you using for your 4.9 GHz overclock?

The i7-9700K is not as power hungry as the i9-9900K at 4.9 / 5.0 GHz...

The Gigabyte Z390M Gaming, should be suitable ... more or less

 

[Firewrath9]

8 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

or high end desktops

 

like what @Princess Luna did

give me one major benifit a GENE has over something like a Z390 M gaming?

 

Heres a little chart:

                                                                           Gene                               Z390M gaming

Fucking overkll vrm for air cooling?                   yup.                                 pretty good, but not godly

2x dimms for 4600mhz+ DDR4?                        yup.                                     4 slots for ~4000mhz

SLI                                                                     nope.                                nope.

ALC1220 audio?                                                yup                                  saving the 250$ and buying a 100$ dac amp would be 10x better

2 m.2?                                                               yup                                       yup

lots of usb 3.0 and 3.1?                                         yup                              yup 

slow mode, and onboard reset buttoms?             yup                              nice oc with a L12s

6 Sata connectors?                                           NOPE                           Yup

ALL THE RGB                                                  meh                                only single 12v GRB  (spend the 250$ saved for a corsair commander pro + light strips)

Wifi?                                                                yup                                    spend the  250$ saved for a 3x3 or a 4x4 and use the 2 extra pcie slots

4 pcie slots?                                                   1gpu + 1x                             1 gpu + 2 1x + 1 4x

 

only useful thing the gene has is a post code