better internet

[m2234323]

how do we get the isp in out are to install  more fiiber to home instead of this 5g  whch is not near as good for gaming and such fell going a step bacword  in time just for more mony to isp

[21rkosta]

Your isp provides 5g? Is it an ISP or a mobile phone service that is just acting as an isp

[m2234323]

1 minute ago, 21rkosta said:

Your isp provides 5g? Is it an ISP or a mobile phone service that is just acting as an isp

both  it is why ithink it shuld be againce the law for isp to do anthg else but internet no tv or moblile 

since they try ever think in the book to shove there tv to use make just interter  cost the same

[21rkosta]

Curiously if you don't mind telling me, is this american? also is this isp your only option?

[m2234323]

Just now, 21rkosta said:

Curiously if you don't mind telling me, is this american? also is this isp your only option?

yes american  it verizon or comcast both do the same think or satellite internet it is reliable yep can get 1oo/100  if i got stright to the ont 85 /85 from router every with other people on and it is the slow conection they have it go up to a 1 gig 

[21rkosta]

Ok so your not using 5g and instead using a fios ont? that is fiber

[Donut417]

5 minutes ago, m2234323 said:

how do we get the isp in out are to install  more fiiber to home instead of this 5g  whch is not near as good for gaming and such fell going a step bacword  in time just for more mony to isp

First of all Fiber is not cheap or easy to install. If you live in a rural area you will NEVER see Fiber. Its just not economical do run the Fiber lines to very few houses. Fiber only makes sense in the city, where houses are on top of each other. Same thing applies to Cable internet as well, population density plays a big role. Comcast puts like 130 people on a fiber node, meaning they need to have 130 people with in the distance allowed by coax. If you want better internet, live in the city. Even then you might only have access to one provider. In my case, we only have Comcast. 

 

4 minutes ago, m2234323 said:

both  it is why ithink it shuld be againce the law for isp to do anthg else but internet no tv or moblile 

As far as TV is concerned, I think they should not be allowed to own the content. As far as mobile is concerned, again rural areas, they 4G and 5G hopeful in the near future, thats how its going to be. The only way Fiber will ever be ran to every one is if the government aka the tax payers pay for it. Even then these companies will fight it tooth an nail and the conservatives in the government will be talking communism and socialism like they always do with any government handout or social program. 

 

 

[m2234323]

5 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

First of all Fiber is not cheap or easy to install. If you live in a rural area you will NEVER see Fiber. Its just not economical do run the Fiber lines to very few houses. Fiber only makes sense in the city, where houses are on top of each other. Same thing applies to Cable internet as well, population density plays a big role. Comcast puts like 130 people on a fiber node, meaning they need to have 130 people with in the distance allowed by coax. If you want better internet, live in the city. Even then you might only have access to one provider. In my case, we only have Comcast. 

 

As far as TV is concerned, I think they should not be allowed to own the content. As far as mobile is concerned, again rural areas, they 4G and 5G hopeful in the near future, thats how its going to be. The only way Fiber will ever be ran to every one is if the government aka the tax payers pay for it. Even then these companies will fight it tooth an nail and the conservatives in the government will be talking communism and socialism like they always do with any government handout or social program. 

 

 

i disagree i was some day wnat  to be a fiber isp  i seen area wher it is fiber to rula area  even one area with a point to point link then fiiber the home 

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UFiber-Stories/New-GPON-OLT-4-makes-Last-Mile-Fiber-Easy/cns-p/2201949

this is a good example i was plan to use the same system but use Infinera  for the back bone a hybride systme not as many huts as gooogl fiber and no big main office with a lot of fibber cable going all over the place to each are 

anothe example cant get more rual then this https://www.technobuffalo.com/what-a-difference-a-day-makes-rural-vermont-now-home-to-fastest-internet-in-the-u-s

[Donut417]

1 minute ago, m2234323 said:

i disagree i was some day wnat  to be a fiber isp  i seen area wher it is fiber to rula area  even one area with a point to point link then fiiber the home 

https://community.ubnt.com/t5/UFiber-Stories/New-GPON-OLT-4-makes-Last-Mile-Fiber-Easy/cns-p/2201949

this is a good example i was plan to use the same system but use Infinera  for the back bone a hybride systme not as many huts as gooogl fiber and no big main office with a lot of fibber cable going all over the place to each are 

Its expensive as fuck. Thats what you dont understand. These companies want money. Most of them over sell their network so they make massive profits. Remember we live in the United States of Corporate America. All these fucks care about is more profit. Im telling you Rural America wont see a major ISP install Fiber EVER. Not unless they get tax dollars to pay for it. I know for a fact Comcast refuses to go in to rural areas and Verizon and AT&T cherry picks areas to deploy Fiber. Generally in well populated RICHER areas that have money. 

 

Keep in mind its not that easy to start an ISP. There are state and federal regulations. Equipment that has to be bough. Also, you have to pay for bandwidth. You have to have a connection point to the internet. You think thats cheap? You think that someone like Comcast, Level 3, etc are just going to give you cheap bandwidth. Thats not how it works in the real world. OH and not to mention if you intend to use utility poles that already exist, then you have to pay rent on those to who ever owns them. Google had issues with this down in Nashville. Then you gotta pay guys to string up that cabling. You need some kind of network engineer who knows how to design the topology of the network. Its not just as simple as stringing some cable. Then you need some one to handle billing customers and cashing checks and such, as well as deal with paying the FCC, State/City franchise fees, etc. 

[SenKa]

Im not sure what you're using, because Verizon wireless doesn't exist anymore... Its called Frontier.

 

Regardless, you will not get anything from them. The corporation are full of money grubbing cunts. I've had to deal with them for the past 14 years, as they are the only ISP with reliable connection in my area.

 

And they sure as hell know it. What I pay for to get 75/75, I could get 200/10 on Spectrum. Swap ISP's if you can, don't give your money to Frontier.

[21rkosta]

1 minute ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Im not sure what you're using, because Verizon wireless doesn't exist anymore... Its called Frontier.

 

Regardless, you will not get anything from them. The corporation are full of money grubbing cunts. I've had to deal with them for the past 14 years, as they are the only ISP with reliable connection in my area.

 

And they sure as hell know it. What I pay for to get 75/75, I could get 200/10 on Spectrum. Swap ISP's if you can, don't give your money to Frontier.

Verizon wireless definitely still exists

[mynameisjuan]

2 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Its expensive as fuck.

People don't realize how expensive being an ISP is.

 

You need multiple millions to even start a small one to do it right and that's before hiring the staff you will need.

 

Oh and the year or so before you begin making a profit off the customer so you can then spend that profit in expanding

 

 

[m2234323]

1 minute ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Im not sure what you're using, because Verizon wireless doesn't exist anymore... Its called Frontier.

 

Regardless, you will not get anything from them. The corporation are full of money grubbing cunts. I've had to deal with them for the past 14 years, as they are the only ISP with reliable connection in my area.

 

And they sure as hell know it. What I pay for to get 75/75, I could get 200/10 on Spectrum. Swap ISP's if you can, don't give your money to Frontier.

only have comcast whihc is worst and have crap upload 15 mb  no thiank 

[Donut417]

1 minute ago, SenpaiKaplan said:

Im not sure what you're using, because Verizon wireless doesn't exist anymore... Its called Frontier.

Um..... Verizon Wireless still exists. If your talking Verizon FIOS, thats also exists too. Frontier bought some of Verizon's unwanted areas. Some of which contained FIOS customers. 

[SenKa]

1 minute ago, 21rkosta said:

Verizon wireless definitely still exists

 

Just now, Donut417 said:

Um..... Verizon Wireless still exists. If your talking Verizon FIOS, thats also exists too. Frontier bought some of Verizon's unwanted areas. Some of which contained FIOS customers. 

It died off in my area, they operate as frontier here. I had assumed that carried elsewhere, sorry for the confusion 

[m2234323]

5 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

Its expensive as fuck. Thats what you dont understand. These companies want money. Most of them over sell their network so they make massive profits. Remember we live in the United States of Corporate America. All these fucks care about is more profit. Im telling you Rural America wont see a major ISP install Fiber EVER. Not unless they get tax dollars to pay for it. I know for a fact Comcast refuses to go in to rural areas and Verizon and AT&T cherry picks areas to deploy Fiber. Generally in well populated RICHER areas that have money. 

 

Keep in mind its not that easy to start an ISP. There are state and federal regulations. Equipment that has to be bough. Also, you have to pay for bandwidth. You have to have a connection point to the internet. You think thats cheap? You think that someone like Comcast, Level 3, etc are just going to give you cheap bandwidth. Thats not how it works in the real world. OH and not to mention if you intend to use utility poles that already exist, then you have to pay rent on those to who ever owns them. Google had issues with this down in Nashville. Then you gotta pay guys to string up that cabling. You need some kind of network engineer who knows how to design the topology of the network. Its not just as simple as stringing some cable. Then you need some one to handle billing customers and cashing checks and such, as well as deal with paying the FCC, State/City franchise fees, etc. 

look like i may end up some day moving to a are like vermot   and i fell like some one need to get a petection going to get the big isp from try to shut down like google and such i heard some story of them shut donw a isp like google then end up  not install good interny any way 

[Donut417]

1 minute ago, m2234323 said:

comcast whihc is worst and have crap upload 15 mb  no thiank 

Could be worse. You could be in one of their areas that only have 5 Mbps upload. Just saying. If you want higher upload upgrade to Gigabit or Gigabit Pro. 

[m2234323]

Just now, Donut417 said:

Could be worse. You could be in one of their areas that only have 5 Mbps upload. Just saying. If you want higher upload upgrade to Gigabit or Gigabit Pro. 

i would take verizon fios good upload speed any day over the 35 mb comcst give on ther gigabit ugg 

[Donut417]

1 minute ago, m2234323 said:

i would take verizon fios good upload speed any day over the 35 mb comcst give on ther gigabit ugg 

OR Upgrade to Gigabit Pro. 2 Gigabit symmetrical Fiber. Though you need a bit of cash to make it happen. 

[m2234323]

4 minutes ago, Donut417 said:

OR Upgrade to Gigabit Pro. 2 Gigabit symmetrical Fiber. Though you need a bit of cash to make it happen. 

my dad doint like comcast itis more work since it mean have to mover all our email we user veriozn email 

yep 300$ is too much 

[m2234323]

i think the only way to get better internet in usa is to get verizon and comast and att and so on broke up in to small compay so they can be more vtell one and ting internet one 

[21rkosta]

Verizon gigabit is not bad at all, I mean is it usually actually gigabit, no, but honestly its pretty fast and can do pretty much anything you need it to do. While as a whole ISPs suck in the US verizon gigabit is a great offering competitive with pretty much anywhere else. Seriously though I spent a summer last year at the beach getting sub 1mb a second.

[m2234323]

4 minutes ago, 21rkosta said:

Verizon gigabit is not bad at all, I mean is it usually actually gigabit, no, but honestly its pretty fast and can do pretty much anything you need it to do. While as a whole ISPs suck in the US verizon gigabit is a great offering competitive with pretty much anywhere else. Seriously though I spent a summer last year at the beach getting sub 1mb a second.

look like ting have great price $89/mo is not bad at all for a gig just wish they wever in more are 

[21rkosta]

Verizon offers 80 for gigabit with a two year contract. I mean ting is still probably better but like their are people who still only get DSL from their isps so like verizon is a quality option compared to most of the US

[m2234323]

3 minutes ago, 21rkosta said:

Verizon offers 80 for gigabit with a two year contract. I mean ting is still probably better but like their are people who still only get DSL from their isps so like verizon is a quality option compared to most of the US

i just hate all this new people deal we pay 120 for 100 and tv and phone and all we can get when my dad talk to them is i think 10$ off and no tv or set top box