Friend Build has TO MUCH constraints for me to handle Need help deciding where to go from here.......

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, TheReal_ist said:

How big is this. From the pictures it looks small ish but its still looks like a normal tower just like 1/3 the size. 

 

Again I would need one like this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352058&cm_re=node_202-_-11-352-058-_-Product&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=11552995&PID=8124546&SID=

The Node 202 is 10.2 liters. The A300 is 1.9 liters. They are a similar shape.

[TheReal_ist]

2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

DDR4 SDRAM??

 

There is Memory and there is Memory

Because old Memory don't work in modern systems.

 

Anyway, you looked at the A300 I linked??

I'm pretty sure its DDR3 I will be able to know for sure today hopefully. He's bringing over his PC so I can what I can salvage for the new one. 

 

Pretty much only useful thing is the HDD and Ram............Everything else I need new

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, TheReal_ist said:

I'm pretty sure its DDR3 I will be able to know for sure today hopefully. He's bringing over his PC so I can what I can salvage for the new one. 

 

Pretty much only useful thing is the HDD and Ram............Everything else I need new

DDR3 won't work

[TheReal_ist]

3 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

The Node 202 is 10.2 liters. The A300 is 1.9 liters. They are a similar shape.

its just the fact its a reg thick PC tower that is the issue again. 

 

I wish there was a Node 202 that was a bit thicker ugggg

[TheReal_ist]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

DDR3 won't work

modern Mobo's don't have ddr3 backwards compatibility......

 

fuck

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, TheReal_ist said:

modern Mobo's don't have ddr3 backwards compatibility......

 

fuck

they're completely different pin layouts, how the fuck would that happen?

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, TheReal_ist said:

its just the fact its a reg thick PC tower that is the issue again. 

 

I wish there was a Node 202 that was a bit thicker ugggg

They're 1cm of each other in height.

[Stefan Payne]

12 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

How big is this. From the pictures it looks small ish but its still looks like a normal tower just like 1/3 the size. 

Very small.

I'm thinking about getting one but not entirely sure yet...

 

The Video I've linked to shows how small the thing really is.

[NunoLava1998]

58 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Very small.

I'm thinking about getting one but not entirely sure yet...

 

The Video I've linked to shows how small the thing really is.

*smol

[TheReal_ist]

3 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

*smol

I'm now even more lost as to what I should do.

 

Can u help me summarize and clarify my options again? 

 

I swear I have like 5 things to try and see if they will work in the end........................... uggg

[NunoLava1998]

5 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

I'm now even more lost as to what I should do.

 

Can u help me summarize and clarify my options again? 

 

I swear I have like 5 things to try and see if they will work in the end........................... uggg

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($55.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Expedition Video Card  ($134.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Silverstone - SFX 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  ($65.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $509.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 15:11 EDT-0400

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, NunoLava1998 said:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($55.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Expedition Video Card  ($134.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Silverstone - SFX 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  ($65.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $509.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 15:11 EDT-0400

better option actually

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($55.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Expedition Video Card  ($134.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - SF 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $533.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 15:12 EDT-0400

[TheReal_ist]

2 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

better option actually

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($55.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Expedition Video Card  ($134.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Corsair - SF 450 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular SFX Power Supply  ($89.98 @ Newegg) 
Total: $533.31
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 15:12 EDT-0400

I'm talking about ALL THE POSTS here.

 

Yours is one of like 8 i have to consider. can u help with those please

[NunoLava1998]

2 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

I'm talking about ALL THE POSTS here.

 

Yours is one of like 8 i have to consider. can u help with those please

That one is the best performance, has good upgradability and will perform really well in gaming (GTX 1060 level). The CPU bottlenecks it, but it'll still certainly be better than the iGPUs on Ryzens (gt 1030 level)

[Stefan Payne]

4 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

I'm talking about ALL THE POSTS here.

 

Yours is one of like 8 i have to consider. can u help with those please

I think you haven't said anything about the Usage Case of the Computer.

What is it for?
What des he do??

[TheReal_ist]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

That one is the best performance, has good upgradability and will perform really well in gaming (GTX 1060 level). The CPU bottlenecks it, but it'll still certainly be better than the iGPUs on Ryzens (gt 1030 level)

Performance is not my worry bud.

 

MY WORRY is the size of everything I need to fit in the case he wants. Reread the OG post he literally uses it for a browser THATS it. 

So remove all the performance shit that is irrelevant. 

 

I need low cost and small form factor. 

Focus on that please.

[TheReal_ist]

1 minute ago, Stefan Payne said:

I think you haven't said anything about the Usage Case of the Computer.

What is it for?
What des he do??

I'm pretty sure I said he uses it as a browser in the OG post but if not here u go.

 

hence why i said his OLD PC is fine speed wise he just wants a smaller PC case with that same performance. Thought that bit got through.....

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, TheReal_ist said:

I'm pretty sure I said he uses it as a browser in the OG post but if not here u go.

 

hence why i said his OLD PC is fine speed wise he just wants a smaller PC case with that same performance. Thought that bit got through.....

Then get the A300 deskmini

[TheReal_ist]

2 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

Then get the A300 deskmini

Thats what I thought......

 

But now I look at the IO and it feels really limited compared to something like this Mobo. He will literally only be using the browser and the ports. 

So i'd like for him to get as many as possible. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZGDJ7P/gigabyte-b450-i-aorus-pro-wifi-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b450-i-aorus-pro-wifi

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, TheReal_ist said:

Thats what I thought......

 

But now I look at the IO and it feels really limited compared to something like this Mobo. He will literally only be using the browser and the ports. 

So i'd like for him to get as many as possible. 

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/ZGDJ7P/gigabyte-b450-i-aorus-pro-wifi-mini-itx-am4-motherboard-b450-i-aorus-pro-wifi

Buy a USB hub.

Also, there are 5 USB ports on there. The A300 Deskmini comes with a case, motherboard and PSU already so you just need to get APU, memory and drives.

[TheReal_ist]

1 minute ago, NunoLava1998 said:

Buy a USB hub.

Also, there are 5 USB ports on there. The A300 Deskmini comes with a case, motherboard and PSU already so you just need to get APU, memory and drives.

Alrit so its either the A300 for like $450 total

or 

 

This new list I built. What u think?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$94.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	Gigabyte - B450 I AORUS PRO WIFI Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard	$123.98 @ Newegg
Memory	Corsair - Vengeance LPX 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$49.99 @ Amazon
Storage	Western Digital - Blue 500 GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive	$67.89 @ OutletPC
Case	Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case	$59.99 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Silverstone - SFX 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply	$65.99 @ Amazon
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$472.73
	Mail-in rebates	-$10.00
	Total	$462.73
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 15:34 EDT-0400

 

[TheReal_ist]

5 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

Buy a USB hub.

Also, there are 5 USB ports on there. The A300 Deskmini comes with a case, motherboard and PSU already so you just need to get APU, memory and drives.

Also this mobo I picked.

 

I need to plug in the Sata M.2 drive, then an old HDD he still has, will this be fine PCIE lane wise. Since this board has wifi, bluetooth which takes some lanes, plus I need to provide lanes to all the USB 3's on the back and front.

 

How can I figure out if I will get all the lanes with so many things connected?

[Stefan Payne]

38 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

I need to plug in the Sata M.2 drive, then an old HDD he still has

There are some decent external USB 3.0 Cases for that.

For example:
https://geizhals.de/verbatim-store-n-save-53101-a1100421.html?hloc=de

 

[Princess Luna]

3 hours ago, TheReal_ist said:

The build has a $400 USD budget for everything. (so every component combined)

Buy him a PS4.

[TheReal_ist]

5 minutes ago, Princess Cadence said:

Buy him a PS4.

he needs a browser PC not a console lol