Friend Build has TO MUCH constraints for me to handle Need help deciding where to go from here.......

[NunoLava1998]

500$ or nothing

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($55.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Expedition Video Card  ($134.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Silverstone - SFX 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  ($65.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $509.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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[NunoLava1998]

this will bottleneck much less (CPU is about 5% slower than r3 1200)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon X4 950 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($76.43 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Expedition Video Card  ($134.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Silverstone - SFX 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  ($65.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $529.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 13:17 EDT-0400

[Jurrunio]

16 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

thats what I thought to. 

 

But then I asked and he said "NOPE i want an all new build. since its so old apparently)

 

So any good Nucs or MiniPC's u know of for Sub $400 bucks??

 

Nope, except those with soldered CPUs which are terrible. Even 10 year old CPUs are faster, and forget expansion or upgradability.

 

6 year old CPUs can still be competitive, I'm using an 8 year old consumer flagship myself... Even the mid range CPUs aren't weak, especially when there's no graphics card at all (not even a shitty one).

[LukeSavenije]

18 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

prebuilt that COULD never be upgraded

wrong

 

13 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

Power Supply SeaSonic - S12II 520 W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply $50.55 @ Amazon

my head, my poor head. don't

 

so is this too big?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$94.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$79.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$49.99 @ Newegg
Storage	ADATA - SU655 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$49.99 @ Amazon
Case	Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$48.66 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$34.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$373.50
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$358.50
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 13:19 EDT-0400

 

[TheReal_ist]

5 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

500$ or nothing

 

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon 200GE 3.2 GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($55.89 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Expedition Video Card  ($134.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Silverstone - SFX 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  ($65.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $509.32
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 13:14 EDT-0400

 

What cooler would I use? since I think it has like a 56mm height limit?

 

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, TheReal_ist said:

What cooler would I use? since I think it has like a 56mm height limit?

 

the included one

2 mm of clearance lol

[TheReal_ist]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

wrong

 

my head, my poor head. don't

 

so is this too big?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 3 2200G 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor	$94.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450M PRO4 Micro ATX AM4 Motherboard	$79.99 @ Amazon
Memory	Team - Vulcan 8 GB (2 x 4 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$49.99 @ Newegg
Storage	ADATA - SU655 480 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$49.99 @ Amazon
Case	Fractal Design - Focus G Mini (Black) MicroATX Mini Tower Case	$48.66 @ Amazon
Power Supply	Corsair - CXM (2015) 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply	$34.98 @ Newegg
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$373.50
	Mail-in rebates	-$15.00
	Total	$358.50
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 13:19 EDT-0400

 

Nope he wants a case like this if it were to ever be big. 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352058&cm_re=node_202-_-11-352-058-_-Product&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=11552995&PID=8124546&SID=

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, TheReal_ist said:

Nope he wants a case like this if it were to ever be big. 

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352058&cm_re=node_202-_-11-352-058-_-Product&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=11552995&PID=8124546&SID=

then i suggest you get a intel nuc

[TheReal_ist]

Just now, NunoLava1998 said:

the included one

2 mm of clearance lol

really the stock 2200G cooler fits. Shit.

 

ARE U SURE. cuz if I get this and its actually 2mm over because I don't they never realized ohh ya theres a mobo underneath.

It will be a mess........

 

Can u triple check to be sure. the 56 mm was off the cuff. not fact.

[TheReal_ist]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

then i suggest you get a intel nuc

So far I've found these as my options:

 

1st

 

2nd (this one is pretty shit specs tho and I can't find a better one)

 

 

 

 

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, TheReal_ist said:

really the stock 2200G cooler fits. Shit.

 

ARE U SURE. cuz if I get this and its actually 2mm over because I don't they never realized ohh ya theres a mobo underneath.

It will be a mess........

 

Can u triple check to be sure. the 56 mm was off the cuff. not fact.

Node 202 has max 56mm cooler height, and the 200GE's cooler height is 54mm iirc, but it has quite a lot of clearance, they list less than the actual height

[TheReal_ist]

Just now, NunoLava1998 said:

Node 202 has max 56mm cooler height, and the 200GE's cooler height is 54mm iirc, but it has quite a lot of clearance, they list less than the actual height

shit your right......

 

I say that cuz now that option is now on the table again.

Ok so whats your thoughts. I've found some alrit NUC's:

 

Intel NUC

 

Still researching Mini PC's from rando brands. 

 

But your list is looking possible

 

[LukeSavenije]

7 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

So far I've found these as my options:

1st

2nd (this one is pretty shit specs tho and I can't find a better one)

get them barebones, and buy the ram and ssd separately

[TheReal_ist]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

get them barebones, and buy the ram and ssd separately

Alrit I got that, but WHERE?.

 

These are prebuilts they don't offer a do it yourself option. Any ideas?

[TheReal_ist]

19 minutes ago, NunoLava1998 said:

this will bottleneck much less (CPU is about 5% slower than r3 1200)

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Athlon X4 950 3.5 GHz Quad-Core Processor  ($76.43 @ Walmart) 
Motherboard: MSI - B450I GAMING PLUS AC Mini ITX AM4 Motherboard  ($119.49 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8 GB (1 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory  ($43.98 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Kingston - A400 240 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($28.99 @ Amazon) 
Video Card: Asus - Radeon RX 570 4 GB Expedition Video Card  ($134.99 @ Newegg Business) 
Case: Fractal Design - Node 202 HTPC Case  ($59.99 @ Amazon) 
Power Supply: Silverstone - SFX 450 W 80+ Bronze Certified SFX Power Supply  ($65.99 @ Amazon) 
Total: $529.86
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-04-01 13:17 EDT-0400

ohh he doesn't need a GPU...........btw

[Stefan Payne]

53 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

I'll lay out the situation:

 

Ok so I'm doing a build for a friend of mine right.

His requirements are:

• The build has a $400 USD budget for everything. (so every component combined)
• He wants a black case or dark grey
• That can fit under his monitor nicely  (so horizontally and with room to spare)
• And he wants it to feel "new" whatever that means from his old one.

Silverstone RVZ Series, Node 202 or similar.

But good quality PSU and Case sets you back 200€ (OK, "just" 180€)

That only leaves 200€ for the Rest. A decent ITX Board is ~100€
That leaves you 100€ for CPU and Memory...

So basically Athlon 200GE and 8GiB Memory without Graphics card...

And a cheap 20€ 128GB SSD with luck.

[TheReal_ist]

Now I'm more confused then when I started.

 

Let me summarize and u guys correct me if I'm WRONG:

 

• So I can do either NUC for $400 ready to go. Or I can try to find a barebones of the Intel NUC I want here. To save some cash and get Ram and SSD separate.

 

• Or I can get a prebuilt Mini PC like this one (But i need to look more because the prices are pretty high.

 

• or I can still do a custom build with Something close to this list here

 

 

[Stefan Payne]

 

2 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

Now I'm more confused then when I started.

 

Let me summarize and u guys correct me if I'm WRONG:

 

• So I can do either NUC for $400 ready to go. Or I can try to find a barebones of the Intel NUC I want here. To save some cash and get Ram and SSD separate.
• Or I can get a prebuilt Mini PC like this one (But i need to look more because the prices are pretty high.
• or I can still do a custom build with Something close to this list here

There is a better option, if available.

 

Look at that:

https://www.asrock.com/nettop/AMD/DeskMini A300 Series/

 

Its around 150€ or so.

You only need to drop in a CPU, Memory and Storage (2,5" Only! or m.2)

 

That leaves you 250€ for CPU, Memory, Storage. 
And you have an Analogue DSUB Output!

 

Though not upgradable for gaming.

 

And according to Wendel, it comes with a Cooler in the Box:

 

[TheReal_ist]

2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Silverstone RVZ Series, Node 202 or similar.

But good quality PSU and Case sets you back 200€ (OK, "just" 180€)

That only leaves 200€ for the Rest. A decent ITX Board is ~100€
That leaves you 100€ for CPU and Memory...

So basically Athlon 200GE and 8GiB Memory without Graphics card...

And a cheap 20€ 128GB SSD with luck.

He has ram 8gb actually So i think I can swipe that and use it.

 

 

[LukeSavenije]

3 minutes ago, TheReal_ist said:

barebones of the Intel NUC

that isn't a barebones...

[TheReal_ist]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

that isn't a barebones...

i know find me one I CAN"T seem to find any. 

 

They are all ready built. 

[Stefan Payne]

1 minute ago, TheReal_ist said:

He has ram 8gb actually So i think I can swipe that and use it.

DDR4 SDRAM??

 

There is Memory and there is Memory

Because old Memory don't work in modern systems.

 

Anyway, you looked at the A300 I linked??

[NunoLava1998]

1 minute ago, TheReal_ist said:

i know find me one I CAN"T seem to find any. 

 

They are all ready built. 

I'd not go for a NUC.

Go for the 509$ build I linked above. If you really want it to be 400$, remove the GPU and change the CPU to a 2200G or 2400G.

[TheReal_ist]

2 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

 

There is a better option, if available.

 

Look at that:

https://www.asrock.com/nettop/AMD/DeskMini A300 Series/

 

How big is this. From the pictures it looks small ish but its still looks like a normal tower just like 1/3 the size. 

 

Again I would need one like this https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352058&cm_re=node_202-_-11-352-058-_-Product&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=11552995&PID=8124546&SID=

[NunoLava1998]

Just now, Stefan Payne said:

DDR4 SDRAM??

 

There is Memory and there is Memory

Because old Memory don't work in modern systems.

 

Anyway, you looked at the A300 I linked??

This too, although no GPU except for iGPU so you're stuck to having to use 200GE, 2200g or 2400g