2 users 1 big mean machine

[san-dia]

My wife and I want to build a shared workstation. 

Usually our projects are not that demanding for a mid range pc, but sometimes it comes to when she needs to edit a 4k video or I need to make a 3d video render.

 

We think that it would be a good idea to have one pc that can do either of those without an issue, but we can also share (at the same time) when doing less demanding work.

 

Can 2 people use the same pc at the same time?

How powerfull would it need to be?

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, san-dia said:

Can 2 people use the same pc at the same time?

How powerfull would it need to be?

yes, vm's exist

depends on what you want to do...

[san-dia]

We dont care if its bad for gaming

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, san-dia said:

We dont care if its bad for gaming

budget?

 

Normally though its cheaper and easier to build 2 system instead of 1. Less software to mess with, and things like usb is plug and play and trouble shooting is much easier, esp if you haven't used linux before.

 

 

[san-dia]

Just now, LukeSavenije said:

yes, vm's exist

depends on what you want to do...

When sharing it would be basic 2d CAD, or Microsoft office, excel, project, ppt...

Maybe some Photoshop or InDesign

[mxk]

2 minutes ago, san-dia said:

We dont care if its bad for gaming

oop you figured it out nvm

 

you can probably make this build happen, but whats your budget?

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, san-dia said:

We dont care if its bad for gaming

not my question. we know it needs at least a good cpu and gpu for 3d editing/4k editing

 

but what is that other workload?

 

btw, quote me if you want answers faster

[san-dia]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

budget?

 

Normally though its cheaper and easier to build 2 system instead of 1. Less software to mess with, and things like usb is plug and play and trouble shooting is much easier, esp if you haven't used linux before.

 

1500

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, san-dia said:

When sharing it would be basic 2d CAD, or Microsoft office, excel, project, ppt...

Maybe some Photoshop or InDesign

so mostly 3d cad and adobe suite?

 

maybe a 2600, a rx580 and another cheap 610 or something for the second vm? or just running both off the 580 will do too

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, san-dia said:

1500

Then id just get 2 750 dollar systems.

 

Something like a r5 2600, rx570 system should work fine here, just get 2 of them. Or for those basic tasks, id be tempted to get a laptop.

[san-dia]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

not my question. we know it needs at least a good cpu and gpu for 3d editing/4k editing

 

but what is that other workload?

 

btw, quote me if you want answers faster

It would be 2D CAD, office word, ppt, project, excel, not really that demanding

[LukeSavenije]

here you go, just run a vm and do heavy on the main system

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor	$169.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$75.90 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$104.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$67.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card	$189.89 @ OutletPC
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$67.98 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply	BitFenix - Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$49.99 @ Newegg Business
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$806.53
	Mail-in rebates	-$80.00
	Total	$726.53
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-16 11:46 EST-0500

 

[san-dia]

3 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

so mostly 3d cad and adobe suite?

 

maybe a 2600, a rx580 and another cheap 610 or something for the second vm? or just running both off the 580 will do too

We were thinking about a Quadro, or is it actually not that good

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, san-dia said:

We were thinking about a Quadro, or is it actually not that good

What programs are you using?

 

For 2d cad, a quadro is overkill, and a igpu should be fine for what you listed here.

[LukeSavenije]

Just now, san-dia said:

We were thinking about a Quadro, or is it actually not that good

is a option, but quadros are for really heavy 3d cad or other usecases that require more vram/have huge differences with quadro/firepro drivers.

[san-dia]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

here you go, just run a vm and do heavy on the main system

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	AMD - Ryzen 7 1700 3 GHz 8-Core Processor	$169.89 @ OutletPC
Motherboard	ASRock - B450 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard	$75.90 @ OutletPC
Memory	G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$104.99 @ Newegg Business
Storage	Crucial - MX500 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$67.89 @ OutletPC
Video Card	XFX - Radeon RX 580 8 GB GTS XXX ED Video Card	$189.89 @ OutletPC
Case	Cooler Master - MasterBox MB511 RGB ATX Mid Tower Case	$67.98 @ Newegg Business
Power Supply	BitFenix - Formula Gold 550 W 80+ Gold Certified ATX Power Supply	$49.99 @ Newegg Business
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total (before mail-in rebates)	$806.53
	Mail-in rebates	-$80.00
	Total	$726.53
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2019-01-16 11:46 EST-0500

 

Wow, thank you

 

Will any virtual machine work? Or do you recomend a specific one?

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, san-dia said:

Wow, thank you

 

Will any virtual machine work? Or do you recomend a specific one?

If you want a seprate user with keyboard and mice and monitor, this won't do what you want. 

 

Really, get 2 systems, it will be much easier, esp if you don't know much about vms and linux.

 

 

[LukeSavenije]

1 minute ago, san-dia said:

Wow, thank you

 

Will any virtual machine work? Or do you recomend a specific one?

yeah... it's a bit more complicated than that... you could also get one cheap system and one heftier one for heavy use.

[san-dia]

1 minute ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

What programs are you using?

 

For 2d cad, a quadro is overkill, and a igpu should be fine for what you listed here.

For 2d cad shure, but sometimes I work on a revit model of rather large buildings, and she works on film making, so we feel like at those moments we need the extra power

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, san-dia said:

For 2d cad shure, but sometimes I work on a revit model of rather large buildings, and she works on film making, so we feel like at those moments we need the extra power

A quadro still seems overkill, and out of reach with that budget. Id get something like a rx 570, probably fine for those apps and much cheaper than a quadro.

[san-dia]

1 minute ago, LukeSavenije said:

yeah... it's a bit more complicated than that... you could also get one cheap system and one heftier one for heavy use.

Fair enough

[LukeSavenije]

2 minutes ago, Electronics Wizardy said:

A quadro still seems overkill, and out of reach with that budget. Id get something like a rx 570, probably fine for those apps and much cheaper than a quadro.

580 is just a bit more and a nice increase in performence...

 

2 minutes ago, san-dia said:

Fair enough

2200g or even a 220ge would be more than enough

[san-dia]

Just now, Electronics Wizardy said:

A quadro still seems overkill, and out of reach with that budget. Id get something like a rx 570, probably fine for those apps and much cheaper than a quadro.

What about a quadro p1000, or a p620? Its almost twice the price on the 1000 and the same on the 620

[Electronics Wizardy]

Just now, san-dia said:

What about a quadro p1000, or a p620? Its almost twice the price on the 1000 and the same on the 620

adobe apps  don't care about quadros(unless you need the 3d connector or extra vram or 10bit)

 

revit will be a bit faster on the quadro, but slower in other apps, and they cost more. I would get a rx 570 and return it if its too slow, but it should be fine.

[san-dia]

2 minutes ago, LukeSavenije said:

580 is just a bit more and a nice increase in performence...

 

2200g or even a 220ge would be more than enough

Thank you again

 

As a side note...

I thought that an intel + nvidia was the way to go, why would amd be a better option here?