Posted January 5, 2019 Hi, Im new to OCing and AMD, so the thing is this: I want to OC my R5 1500X to 4.0GHz, and almost achieve at @1.38V CPU voltage, but the system crashed with the CineBench CPU test and playing Football Manager 19, altough playing Shadow of the Tomb Raider and Dishonerd it managed stable. I have a 8GB (2x4) DDR4 240Mhz Unknown manufactor Kit, it just have a serial number. Even the CPUz cant tell the vendor. The cooler is the stock one, the Wraith Spire. My PSU is a Thermaltake TR2 430W, not 80plus certified. Main doubts: CPU Temp: It drives me crazy the temp difference between my old i3 7100 at idle and this Ryzen CPU (48-50C). Playing never reach the late 60Cs. Voltage management in this mobo: It doesnt allow me to manually set the Voltage, is an offset option, quite annoying IMO. Dunno difference between SoC voltage and VDDCR voltage. The main thing: achieving an stable OC. One last thing I live in Cuba so my ambient temp is pretty like 27-29C(Night)30-31C(Day). The attach pic is from the 4.0GHz OC run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 First of all, the PSU is a disaster. Secondly, if you can't keep 4GHz stable then you need a lower frequency, say 3.9GHz (not sure if you can do 3.95GHz). A Better PSU with less voltage ripple can help on that when the motherboard is merely mediocre Lastly, SOC voltage is what powers everything in the CPU that's not the CPU core, which includes the memory controller, PCIe interface etc. VDDCR is the memory voltage. Leave both on auto for now. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 Author 1 minute ago, Jurrunio said: First of all, the PSU is a disaster. Secondly, if you can't keep 4GHz stable then you need a lower frequency, say 3.9GHz (not sure if you can do 3.95GHz). A Better PSU with less voltage ripple can help on that when the motherboard is merely mediocre Lastly, SOC voltage is what powers everything in the CPU that's not the CPU core, which includes the memory controller, PCIe interface etc. VDDCR is the memory voltage. Leave both on auto for now. Thanks for answering. Here the PSU are insanely expensive, this one I got it new for 70USD, so in the short term I cant move to a better PSU. Right now, the system is running at 3,791.8MHz at 1.281V on CPU Core as max reading acording to HWiNFO. This was achieved by resetting the BIOS config and only hitting the EZ Perfomance mode. The Energy Profile in Windows is the Ryzen Balanced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, jose-eduardo said: Thanks for answering. Here the PSU are insanely expensive, this one I got it new for 70USD, so in the short term I cant move to a better PSU. Right now, the system is running at 3,791.8MHz at 1.281V on CPU Core as max reading acording to HWiNFO. This was achieved by resetting the BIOS config and only hitting the EZ Perfomance mode. The Energy Profile in Windows is the Ryzen Balanced replace it as soon as possible. This thing isnt even safe. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 I wouldnt worry that much about the PSU its a thermal take unit so its name brand on the side at least. Thermal take is not in the business of setting peoples houses on fire. Is it not great for OCing yeah but i wouldnt go as far as to say its not safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 Author 1 minute ago, Jurrunio said: replace it as soon as possible. This thing isnt even safe. Agree, but I think I should prostitute myself for acomplishing that LOL, look the prices. Way out of my reach in this moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 Author 2 minutes ago, Swes said: I wouldnt worry that much about the PSU its a thermal take unit so its name brand on the side at least. Thermal take is not in the business of setting peoples houses on fire. Is it not great for OCing yeah but i wouldnt go as far as to say its not safe. Swes you make me feel safe again LMAO. This PSU is original as far as I can tell, purchased in Mexico. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 the reason you need a newer PSU is you need something with less ripple, this will make higher overclocks more stable. as for your overclock you are simply NOT STABLE at your settings, you have 2 choices, lower the core clock or shove more voltage at it, personally I would lower the core clock till I reach stability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, jose-eduardo said: Swes you make me feel safe again LMAO. This PSU is original as far as I can tell, purchased in Mexico. Yeah I would be a little careful about beating on it but i dont think it catching on fire randomly is something id worry about. Just be nice with it keep it clean etc. The era of PSUs catching fire unprovoked was a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 Just now, Daniel644 said: the reason you need a newer PSU is you need something with less ripple, this will make higher overclocks more stable. as for your overclock you are simply NOT STABLE at your settings, you have 2 choices, lower the core clock or shove more voltage at it, personally I would lower the core clock till I reach stability. maybe its a 1500X so I mean 4 GHz is not guaranteed by any means. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 Author 1 minute ago, Daniel644 said: the reason you need a newer PSU is you need something with less ripple, this will make higher overclocks more stable. as for your overclock you are simply NOT STABLE at your settings, you have 2 choices, lower the core clock or shove more voltage at it, personally I would lower the core clock till I reach stability. Right now is stable at 3.8Ghz with EZ Perfomance Mode, reaching 815 score in CineBench Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Swes said: maybe its a 1500X so I mean 4 GHz is not guaranteed by any means. I'm personally stuck at 3.75Ghz on my 1700 until I can push more power to it when I pull the H100i V2 out of the other computer in like a week or 2 (hopefully) and move it to my Ryzen system, the stock cooler isn't enough to keep it from black screening when it heats up. the X doesn't garuntee a higher overclock, what it garuntees is it takes less power (below a certain threshold) to hit a certain clock speed, so at least in theory it should be a better overclocker, but nothing is garunteed, some chips just have a max clock speed regardless. 6 minutes ago, jose-eduardo said: Right now is stable at 3.8Ghz with EZ Perfomance Mode, reaching 815 score in CineBench i'd keep it there, if your MOBO is a Asus board, directly underneath the setting where you manually key in the core speed multiplier in the BIOS is a setting called Performance Bias, you can set that to CB15, it's supposed to boost your cinebench score, it also gives decent bump to hashrate if you ever decide to try CPU mining Cryptonight based coins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 Author 1 minute ago, Daniel644 said: i'd keep it there, if your MOBO is a Asus board, directly underneath the setting where you manually key in the core speed multiplier in the BIOS is a setting called Performance Bias, you can set that to CB15, it's supposed to boost your cinebench score, it also gives decent bump to hashrate if you ever decide to try CPU mining Cryptonight based coins. So this will improve the system general performance??? like gaming and working stuff? I mostly work rendering videos in Premiere or Graphic Design in Corel Draw, Photoshop, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 3 minutes ago, jose-eduardo said: So this will improve the system general performance??? like gaming and working stuff? I mostly work rendering videos in Premiere or Graphic Design in Corel Draw, Photoshop, etc I've not done any A to B testing, but I know it felt snappier. you could try it and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 Author 1 minute ago, Daniel644 said: I've not done any A to B testing, but I know it felt snappier. you could try it and see. OK, Im doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 27 minutes ago, Swes said: I wouldnt worry that much about the PSU its a thermal take unit so its name brand on the side at least. Thermal take is not in the business of setting peoples houses on fire. Is it not great for OCing yeah but i wouldnt go as far as to say its not safe. that's the thing, name brand PSUs can still burn your house down while brands you have never heard of don't always do that. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 5, 2019 14 minutes ago, jose-eduardo said: OK, Im doing it. iv done some testing and it doesnt get u much maybe 20 points on bias, hears some numbers hope they help u on your way, ignore the ram timing it was messed up got them lower in the end #1:- STRIX X470-F GAMING | Ryzen 7 2700X @ 42.50mhZ | Patriot Viper Steel Series 16gb (2x8) 4000 MHz | MSI RTX 2080 GAMING TRIO | ASUS ROG RYUJIN 240 | NZXT S340 ELITE | 2X 1TB 970 EVO PLUS M.2 + 3 X 1TB FIRECUDA 2.5" HYBRID DRIVES | EVGA SUPER NOVA G3 80+GOLD 1000W | AND ENOUGH RGB TO MAKE YOUR EYES MELT #2:- GIGABYTE X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING | RYZEN 2700X | AURUS 3200MHz | MSI GTX 1060 6GB | CIT BLAZE MID RED-BLACK | STOCK RYZEN RGB AIR COOLER | 2TB WD HDD + 500GB 970 EVO PLUS #3:- STRIX X470-F GAMING | Ryzen 7 1800X | DOMINATOR LPX 3000MHz | STRIX 970| COOLER MASTER 240 ML | GAME MAX AURORA MID TOWER | CRUCIAL P1 1TB SSD M.2 + FIRECUDA 1TB HYBRID DRIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 7, 2019 Author On 1/5/2019 at 1:53 AM, buzzinkeegs said: iv done some testing and it doesnt get u much maybe 20 points on bias, hears some numbers hope they help u on your way, ignore the ram timing it was messed up got them lower in the end 1.439, is this right??? I've heard that above 1.4 isn't secure for daily use, or maybe you just OC like for the purpose of the test? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 7, 2019 25 minutes ago, jose-eduardo said: 1.439, is this right??? I've heard that above 1.4 isn't secure for daily use, or maybe you just OC like for the purpose of the test? thats the voltage i used the clock speed was 41.00 , iv seen then get upto 42.00 at 1.47+ but my chip was a bargain buy of ebay already used and didnt seem to want to go that high u think thats mad u should see my current settings on my 1800x , I run it daily like that well realisticly perminantly it never gets turned off unless i need to clean it or switch out a part #1:- STRIX X470-F GAMING | Ryzen 7 2700X @ 42.50mhZ | Patriot Viper Steel Series 16gb (2x8) 4000 MHz | MSI RTX 2080 GAMING TRIO | ASUS ROG RYUJIN 240 | NZXT S340 ELITE | 2X 1TB 970 EVO PLUS M.2 + 3 X 1TB FIRECUDA 2.5" HYBRID DRIVES | EVGA SUPER NOVA G3 80+GOLD 1000W | AND ENOUGH RGB TO MAKE YOUR EYES MELT #2:- GIGABYTE X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING | RYZEN 2700X | AURUS 3200MHz | MSI GTX 1060 6GB | CIT BLAZE MID RED-BLACK | STOCK RYZEN RGB AIR COOLER | 2TB WD HDD + 500GB 970 EVO PLUS #3:- STRIX X470-F GAMING | Ryzen 7 1800X | DOMINATOR LPX 3000MHz | STRIX 970| COOLER MASTER 240 ML | GAME MAX AURORA MID TOWER | CRUCIAL P1 1TB SSD M.2 + FIRECUDA 1TB HYBRID DRIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 7, 2019 #1:- STRIX X470-F GAMING | Ryzen 7 2700X @ 42.50mhZ | Patriot Viper Steel Series 16gb (2x8) 4000 MHz | MSI RTX 2080 GAMING TRIO | ASUS ROG RYUJIN 240 | NZXT S340 ELITE | 2X 1TB 970 EVO PLUS M.2 + 3 X 1TB FIRECUDA 2.5" HYBRID DRIVES | EVGA SUPER NOVA G3 80+GOLD 1000W | AND ENOUGH RGB TO MAKE YOUR EYES MELT #2:- GIGABYTE X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING | RYZEN 2700X | AURUS 3200MHz | MSI GTX 1060 6GB | CIT BLAZE MID RED-BLACK | STOCK RYZEN RGB AIR COOLER | 2TB WD HDD + 500GB 970 EVO PLUS #3:- STRIX X470-F GAMING | Ryzen 7 1800X | DOMINATOR LPX 3000MHz | STRIX 970| COOLER MASTER 240 ML | GAME MAX AURORA MID TOWER | CRUCIAL P1 1TB SSD M.2 + FIRECUDA 1TB HYBRID DRIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 7, 2019 #1:- STRIX X470-F GAMING | Ryzen 7 2700X @ 42.50mhZ | Patriot Viper Steel Series 16gb (2x8) 4000 MHz | MSI RTX 2080 GAMING TRIO | ASUS ROG RYUJIN 240 | NZXT S340 ELITE | 2X 1TB 970 EVO PLUS M.2 + 3 X 1TB FIRECUDA 2.5" HYBRID DRIVES | EVGA SUPER NOVA G3 80+GOLD 1000W | AND ENOUGH RGB TO MAKE YOUR EYES MELT #2:- GIGABYTE X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING | RYZEN 2700X | AURUS 3200MHz | MSI GTX 1060 6GB | CIT BLAZE MID RED-BLACK | STOCK RYZEN RGB AIR COOLER | 2TB WD HDD + 500GB 970 EVO PLUS #3:- STRIX X470-F GAMING | Ryzen 7 1800X | DOMINATOR LPX 3000MHz | STRIX 970| COOLER MASTER 240 ML | GAME MAX AURORA MID TOWER | CRUCIAL P1 1TB SSD M.2 + FIRECUDA 1TB HYBRID DRIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 7, 2019 Author 24 minutes ago, buzzinkeegs said: thats the voltage i used the clock speed was 41.00 , iv seen then get upto 42.00 at 1.47+ but my chip was a bargain buy of ebay already used and didnt seem to want to go that high u think thats mad u should see my current settings on my 1800x , I run it daily like that well realisticly perminantly it never gets turned off unless i need to clean it or switch out a part Dude, that's awesome, I'm working at 3.8ghz in performance mode and it is running smoothly, although I have to say that I'm not seeing completely the change after my i3 7100, maybe is my head or is because my cheap RAM kit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 7, 2019 probly the ram kit try bump the speed up in bios without playing with the timing my last cheap kit was 2400 but was able to run at 2600 i was proud of the set up i had it served me well now it serves my lil brother hears where it got me before i upgradedhttps://www.3dmark.com/search#/?mode=advanced&url=/proxycon/ajax/search2/cpugpu/sd/P/2229/982/500000?minScore=0&cpuName=AMD Ryzen 5 1500X&gpuName=NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970&gpuCount=1 #1:- STRIX X470-F GAMING | Ryzen 7 2700X @ 42.50mhZ | Patriot Viper Steel Series 16gb (2x8) 4000 MHz | MSI RTX 2080 GAMING TRIO | ASUS ROG RYUJIN 240 | NZXT S340 ELITE | 2X 1TB 970 EVO PLUS M.2 + 3 X 1TB FIRECUDA 2.5" HYBRID DRIVES | EVGA SUPER NOVA G3 80+GOLD 1000W | AND ENOUGH RGB TO MAKE YOUR EYES MELT #2:- GIGABYTE X470 AORUS ULTRA GAMING | RYZEN 2700X | AURUS 3200MHz | MSI GTX 1060 6GB | CIT BLAZE MID RED-BLACK | STOCK RYZEN RGB AIR COOLER | 2TB WD HDD + 500GB 970 EVO PLUS #3:- STRIX X470-F GAMING | Ryzen 7 1800X | DOMINATOR LPX 3000MHz | STRIX 970| COOLER MASTER 240 ML | GAME MAX AURORA MID TOWER | CRUCIAL P1 1TB SSD M.2 + FIRECUDA 1TB HYBRID DRIVE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 7, 2019 Author 22 minutes ago, buzzinkeegs said: probly the ram kit try bump the speed up in bios without playing with the timing my last cheap kit was 2400 but was able to run at 2600... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted January 7, 2019 Author And this is my baby LOL, next upgrade is between the RAM, PSU and a monitor, cuz I'm working with a crappy 32in TV that is killing my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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