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RTX 2080 stutters and drops frames in all games. Very frustrating.

Solkin2k
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Hi,

 

So, I have finally finished building my new system and it's definitely not running as I had hoped.  I am getting framerate dips and stutters in every game I have.  I've upgraded from an i7 3930 and a GTX 590, which even though I have had to run at medium to low settings on most modern games, didn't have stuttering issues.

 

My new system took me over two years to put together, and the the CPU was bought prior to everything else, and there has been many advances in tech since.  I was originally planning on buying the white gigabyte 2070, but when it was time to buy, it was sold out everywhere and the 2080 was available, so I jumped on it instead.  Knowing quite well, that was a bit too much of a powerhouse for the rest of the setup.  Figured it would still run just fine, but it's not.

 

Current set up:

 

Ryzen 7 1700 @3.9ghz

MSI b350 board, running the most recent bios

Gigabyte rtx 2080 oc gaming white

16gb corsair vengeance running at 3200

850w corsair power supply

3x 500gb samsung 860evo ssd's

 

I ran out of money, so I haven't upgraded my monitor or activated windows 10 yet.

 

Running an Asus 1080p 27" 144hz display via hdmi currently.

 

After a couple weeks of intense research and settings tweaks, I have minimized the problem, but it still happens regularly.   Every single thing in the system has the most recent drivers.  I have tinkered around with the DSR settings, and that is what is actually helping the most at the moment.

 

I am fairly certain that my CPU combined with my monitor is what is causing the framerate stutters.  I can run everything at a smooth 60fps and the highest of settings, but fast camera turns, etc.  it will drop it to anywhere from around 10-20fps and cause a brief stutter.  Vsync is on due to major screen tearing if I don't.

 

The main thing that I am still a little unsure about, is if this normal for what I have.  I have heard some people say that my graphics card might be screwed up and I should RMA it.  Or if it's exactly what I believe it is, and the CPU and the old monitor are to blame here?   And if that is the case, what do you all think would be the best course of hardware changes in the system.  The most quick and painless start would be swapping out the 1700 for a 2700x and buy a new 1440p 165hz Monitor.  This would be my preferred option as it will be the cheapest alteration, but if it's not going to help any, then I might just dump Ryzen all together and use an 8700k from Intel?

 

Oh, and wondering if my not activated version of windows 10 has anything to do it?

 

I have attached the most recent benchmark graphs from Assassin's Creed Odyssey.  It shows what I am getting now, with DSR, which is still annoying, but way better than before when I had first started.  Before, the dips, dipped into the less than 10fps territory.

 

Any thoughts of the issue and my thoughts on the solution would be appreciated.  thanks!20181221_101006.thumb.jpg.6124f6e8388246ab808be347460e8a5f.jpg20181227_003011.thumb.jpg.2dae8e3bea4e4d29a12809592d16b685.jpg

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Maybe motherboard VRM overheating causinf CPU to throttle back?

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: 1TB HP EX920 PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172), 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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i've heard some funky stuff with unactivated windows and the 20 series. or if you install chipset drivers before any windows update, or no updates at all.

 

There's also an windows update just for the 20 series, i don't know the version on top of my head, but i had to install windows twice when i did my build last month.

 

Basically i had to make sure to updating windows was the first thing i did on the 2nd install and everything worked.

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9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666  bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA non-30 tie XC 1830//7600 0.85v 210w ll  8x nf12/14 fans 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA242w (movie, work mon dying) 1080p 60hzll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (using at 4:4:4 98 fan is dying)

 

 

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U said your ryzen was bought prior to all parts, how long ago was that? Because on lauch, ryzens would have good and bad chips of the same cpu for OC, memory OC, etc, depending on luck if u bought a good or bad one, do u have another system where u can test the RAM and GPU with other CPU (that will also helps to see if the problem is on the GPU or RAM)? Also, how is thermals, u didn`t said what cpu cooler u are using, so could be  a thermal problem

Main rig: CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X cooled by a Noctua NH-U14S; Mem: 16 GB(2x8) G.Skill TridentZ White 3200 MHz; GPU: EVGA RTX 2070 XC; MOBO: MSI B450 Tomahawk; Storage: XPG Spectrix S40G M.2 512GB SSD; Kingston A400 480GB SSD; 1TB Western Digital Blue HDD; PSU: Corsair CX750M Semi-modular (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Commander C36.

 

Secondary rig: CPU: Intel Core i7 4790 @3.60GHz(Turbo @4.00GHz) cooled by Corsair H60; Mem: G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 16GB(4x4) OC@2133MHz (11-11-11-30 (1.6V)); GPU: None(for now); MOBO: Gigabyte Z87-HD3; Storage:HyperX 120GB; PSU: Thermaltake SmarT series 750w (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Chaser A41.

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1 hour ago, Jurrunio said:

Maybe motherboard VRM overheating causinf CPU to throttle back?

Hmm.. not quite sure how to find that out.  Using the MSI tomahawk arctic b350 board.  I just ran Aida64 and stressed out the cpu for 30min.  Motherboard temps hit 88, CPU hit 62.  CPU stayed at 100% the entire time, no crashes.    /shrug.

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56 minutes ago, FazBEBETO said:

U said your ryzen was bought prior to all parts, how long ago was that? Because on lauch, ryzens would have good and bad chips of the same cpu for OC, memory OC, etc, depending on luck if u bought a good or bad one, do u have another system where u can test the RAM and GPU with other CPU (that will also helps to see if the problem is on the GPU or RAM)? Also, how is thermals, u didn`t said what cpu cooler u are using, so could be  a thermal problem

Just looked up my Amazon order history.  Guess it wasn't as far back as I thought,  MB and CPU were bought in Aug 2017.  I could dig up the grave and  throw the GPU in the old 3970k system and see what happens.   As for the cooler, it has a NZXT Kraken x62 on it.  As mentioned in another reply, I stressed it out with Aida64 earlier for 30min and it only hit 62 degrees. 

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1 hour ago, xg32 said:

i've heard some funky stuff with unactivated windows and the 20 series. or if you install chipset drivers before any windows update, or no updates at all.

 

There's also an windows update just for the 20 series, i don't know the version on top of my head, but i had to install windows twice when i did my build last month.

 

Basically i had to make sure to updating windows was the first thing i did on the 2nd install and everything worked.

Yep, makes me wonder.  Think I will try the clean wipe and reinstall windows and updates right before I give up and and buy new parts.   You mentaion you have issues.  Was it the same issues?

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5 minutes ago, Solkin2k said:

Yep, makes me wonder.  Think I will try the clean wipe and reinstall windows and updates right before I give up and and buy new parts.   You mentaion you have issues.  Was it the same issues?

drivers acting funny/wouldn't install, drivers wouldnt even install after the windows update, i'm thinking there's something in the windows update that messes with the chipset driver.

 

Also 2 of my friends updated windows  (large patches)after gpu drivers and got non-stop stutters.

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9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666  bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA non-30 tie XC 1830//7600 0.85v 210w ll  8x nf12/14 fans 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA242w (movie, work mon dying) 1080p 60hzll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (using at 4:4:4 98 fan is dying)

 

 

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53 minutes ago, xg32 said:

drivers acting funny/wouldn't install, drivers wouldnt even install after the windows update, i'm thinking there's something in the windows update that messes with the chipset driver.

 

Also 2 of my friends updated windows  (large patches)after gpu drivers and got non-stop stutters.

Were they able to fix it?

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34 minutes ago, Solkin2k said:

Were they able to fix it?

we all had to reinstall windows and update it first.

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9900k 1.36v 5.1avx 4.9ring 85C 195w (daily) 1.02v 4.3ghz 80w 50C R20 temps score=5500 ll D15 ll Z390 taichi ult 1.60 bios ll gskill 4x8gb 14-14-14-30-280-20 ddr3666  bdie 1.45v 45C 1.22sa/1.18 io  ll EVGA non-30 tie XC 1830//7600 0.85v 210w ll  8x nf12/14 fans 2x samsung 860 evo 500gb raid 0 ll 500gb nvme 970 evo ll Corsair graphite 780T ll EVGA P2 1200w ll Windows 10 Pro ll NEC PA242w (movie, work mon dying) 1080p 60hzll Predator X27 4k144 hdr (using at 4:4:4 98 fan is dying)

 

 

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2 hours ago, xg32 said:

we all had to reinstall windows and update it first.

whelp, that didn't do anything.  going to put the old system back together and try the 2080 in there, see what happens, tomorrow.

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On 12/28/2018 at 1:24 AM, Solkin2k said:

Just looked up my Amazon order history.  Guess it wasn't as far back as I thought,  MB and CPU were bought in Aug 2017.  I could dig up the grave and  throw the GPU in the old 3970k system and see what happens.   As for the cooler, it has a NZXT Kraken x62 on it.  As mentioned in another reply, I stressed it out with Aida64 earlier for 30min and it only hit 62 degrees. 

Well, the better way to find a broken GPU is to test in multiple systems, so i think its a good idea for u to do it, and temps look fine, so no problem there,

Main rig: CPU: Ryzen 7 3700X cooled by a Noctua NH-U14S; Mem: 16 GB(2x8) G.Skill TridentZ White 3200 MHz; GPU: EVGA RTX 2070 XC; MOBO: MSI B450 Tomahawk; Storage: XPG Spectrix S40G M.2 512GB SSD; Kingston A400 480GB SSD; 1TB Western Digital Blue HDD; PSU: Corsair CX750M Semi-modular (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Commander C36.

 

Secondary rig: CPU: Intel Core i7 4790 @3.60GHz(Turbo @4.00GHz) cooled by Corsair H60; Mem: G.Skill RipJawsX DDR3 16GB(4x4) OC@2133MHz (11-11-11-30 (1.6V)); GPU: None(for now); MOBO: Gigabyte Z87-HD3; Storage:HyperX 120GB; PSU: Thermaltake SmarT series 750w (80+ bronze); CASE: Thermaltake Chaser A41.

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