8700k vs 9700k for premier pro

[mxk]

I have the chance to get either a 9700k or an 8700k for less than the cost of an i5-8600k/9600k and I'm definitely going to jump on this opportunity.

I just wanted to ask, what would be the differences for render times (stock clock speeds) for adobe premier pro? If that isn't specific enough, I would be editing 1080p60 gameplay. Also, would the temps be that much higher than an 8700k? I wasn't sure since it has 2 more cores.

 

If anyone wants more info I can provide, I just wasn't sure what to add. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

If it's that cheap, get the 9700K.

[mxk]

1 minute ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

If it's that cheap, get the 9700K.

cough cough sub $200 usd, will do

[bmichaels556]

Yeah, at face value, jump on the 9700k.

 

However... And I hope someone can answer this. Are there situations where 6 cores, 12 threads would actually perform better than 8 cores? Seems like the only reason the 9700k performs "better" is because of better single-thread performance. But even with slower individual cores, would almost twice the threads be beneficial to editing?

 

I know more full cores are better, but we're not talking about say, 4 cores 8 threads, vs 8 cores here. So the situation to my noob self is throwing me off. 

[Enderman]

9700K

Rendering might be a bit slower because of 4 less threads but honestly that's not a problem unless you need to render hours of video every day.

Most of your time is spent doing the editing and not the rendering anyway, so the higher core performance will benefit you more.

[bmichaels556]

4 minutes ago, mxk. said:

cough cough sub $200 usd, will do

HOLY SHITE, smokin' deal. Don't think, just grab the 9700K I would think.

[mxk]

Just now, Enderman said:

9700K

Rendering might be a bit slower because of 4 less threads but honestly that's not a problem unless you need to render hours of video every day.

Most of your time is spent doing the editing and not the rendering anyway, so the higher core performance will benefit you more.

Okie dokie artichokie. I doubt my longest video will go past 10min so I probably shouldn't be worried

[mxk]

Just now, bmichaels556 said:

HOLY SHITE, smokin' deal. Don't think, just grab the 9700K I would think.

out of stock atm but should be back by the time I need it.

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 hour ago, bmichaels556 said:

Are there situations where 6 cores, 12 threads would actually perform better than 8 cores? Seems like the only reason the 9700k performs "better" is because of better single-thread performance. But even with slower individual cores, would almost twice the threads be beneficial to editing?

Not many. Single-thread performance is a big one, though.

 

Most of the time, the more cores and threads you have at your disposal will be better for rendering, and that's just due to having more of them available. 9700K also has an IPC boost over the 8700K, so that alone will help it perform better. Think about the Ryzen 5 1600 and 2600. Basically identical, except the 2600 got an IPC boost with Zen+ architecture, which makes it perform slightly better than the 1600.

 

This is without overclocks in play, but I'm pretty sure a 9700K will still outperform an 8700K clock for clock.

[Turtle Rig]

4 hours ago, mxk. said:

I have the chance to get either a 9700k or an 8700k for less than the cost of an i5-8600k/9600k and I'm definitely going to jump on this opportunity.

I just wanted to ask, what would be the differences for render times (stock clock speeds) for adobe premier pro? If that isn't specific enough, I would be editing 1080p60 gameplay. Also, would the temps be that much higher than an 8700k? I wasn't sure since it has 2 more cores.

 

If anyone wants more info I can provide, I just wasn't sure what to add. 

My CPU beats a 8700k stock in CPU Queen test.  It hangs in there with other benchmarks too. So it must be overclocked and what not.

[mxk]

20 hours ago, Crunchy Dragon said:

This is without overclocks in play, but I'm pretty sure a 9700K will still outperform an 8700K clock for clock.

I haven't seen many rendering graphs for times and scores around (I might have not looked well enough) but a youtuber I watch, Optimum Tech actually released a video today and his graphs just further your response so this is good to know. 

[Crunchy Dragon]

1 hour ago, mxk. said:

I haven't seen many rendering graphs for times and scores around (I might have not looked well enough) but a youtuber I watch, Optimum Tech actually released a video today and his graphs just further your response so this is good to know. 

9700K got an IPC boost, it's logical that it would beat an 8700K clock for clock.