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I would like to get a better processor for my build but i'm not sure what will affect my gaming performance. My budget is $200-$250 and i would like a 7th Gen Core I5. I was looking a the I5-7400. What would affect games? Core count or # of threads? Recommendations greatly appreciated.

 

 

Edit: I have a I3-7100@ 3.9 GHz and a EVGA 1050ti

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How much does a used i7 6700 cost you?

CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 (1x2GB), Crucial DDR3-1600 (2x4GB), Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 (1x4GB) GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 770 DirectCU II 2GB SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" 1TB HDDs: WD Green 3.5" 1TB, WD Blue 3.5" 1TB PSU: Corsair AX860i & CableMod ModFlex Cables Case: Fractal Design Meshify C TG (White) Fans: 2x Dynamic X2 GP-12 Monitors: LG 24GL600F, Samsung S24D390 Keyboard: Logitech G710+ Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Mouse Pad: Steelseries QcK Audio: Bose SoundSport In-Ear Headphones

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eh, nope that's enough money for Ryzen 5 6 core and B450 motherboard like the Pro4

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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1 minute ago, Jurrunio said:

eh, nope that's enough money for Ryzen 5 6 core and B450 motherboard like the Pro4

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im looking at it and i could get a I5-9600. I would have to get a better Mobo but i would be fine with that.

 

 

Edit: or a I5-8400

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5 minutes ago, Dubious Gaming: bl4z3 said:

Im staying with team blue.

Why?

CPU: Intel Core i7-950 Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R CPU Cooler: NZXT HAVIK 140 RAM: Corsair Dominator DDR3-1600 (1x2GB), Crucial DDR3-1600 (2x4GB), Crucial Ballistix Sport DDR3-1600 (1x4GB) GPU: ASUS GeForce GTX 770 DirectCU II 2GB SSD: Samsung 860 EVO 2.5" 1TB HDDs: WD Green 3.5" 1TB, WD Blue 3.5" 1TB PSU: Corsair AX860i & CableMod ModFlex Cables Case: Fractal Design Meshify C TG (White) Fans: 2x Dynamic X2 GP-12 Monitors: LG 24GL600F, Samsung S24D390 Keyboard: Logitech G710+ Mouse: Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum Mouse Pad: Steelseries QcK Audio: Bose SoundSport In-Ear Headphones

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Core count and the number of threads are linked. If your CPU has hyperthreading, the number of threads will be double of your number of cores.

Gaming mostly benefits from single core performance.

 

With that said, what motherboard do you currently have? Are you comfortable buying used?

75% of what I say is sarcastic

 

So is the rest probably

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Locked i7 7700

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CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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1 minute ago, myselfolli said:

Core count and the number of threads are linked. If your CPU has hyperthreading, the number of threads will be double of your number of cores.

Gaming mostly benefits from single core performance.

 

With that said, what motherboard do you currently have? Are you comfortable buying used?

I have  a ASRock H270 pro. I prefer not to buy new but i will if there's no other option

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4 minutes ago, Dubious Gaming: bl4z3 said:

im looking at it and i could get a I5-9600. I would have to get a better Mobo but i would be fine with that.

 

 

Edit: or a I5-8400

Good luck finding a board and CPU for $250. The CPU alone costs that much, and add another $120-150 for a Z370/Z390 board in case of the 9600K.

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1 minute ago, Princess Cadence said:

Locked i7 7700

Why does everyone want to go for an i7? Sure it's nice for bragging rights, but if you're purely gaming on your machine, your cores will sit there idling. An i5 is perfectly fine and a lot cheaper in most cases

75% of what I say is sarcastic

 

So is the rest probably

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1 minute ago, Dubious Gaming: bl4z3 said:

I have  a ASRock H270 pro

Pro4 I assume?

 

Check the filter on pcpartpicker

75% of what I say is sarcastic

 

So is the rest probably

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wait for the new ryzen stuff thats coming at CES 2019 in january less than a month away. its said that we could see 16 cores 32 threads at 5ghz for 499$ and also 8 cores 16 threads for 299$ at 5.2ghz and being a month away its worth the wait as it will be on 7nm and you could save up for that nice 16 core monster 

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3 minutes ago, myselfolli said:

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If OP wants to spend money he should at least spend to something that will last and makes sense and not a 4c/4t in early 2019, when he'll pay still a hefty price tag on a Kaby Lake i5 but not do a meaningful jump in performance.

 

A shit ton of games will be CPU bond with only 4 threads, specially if he expects to have background and side ground applications going on.

Personal Desktop":

CPU: Intel Core i7 10700K @5ghz |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock Pro 4 |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Z490UD ATX|~| RAM: 16gb DDR4 3333mhzCL16 G.Skill Trident Z |~| GPU: RX 6900XT Sapphire Nitro+ |~| PSU: Corsair TX650M 80Plus Gold |~| Boot:  SSD WD Green M.2 2280 240GB |~| Storage: 1x3TB HDD 7200rpm Seagate Barracuda + SanDisk Ultra 3D 1TB |~| Case: Fractal Design Meshify C Mini |~| Display: Toshiba UL7A 4K/60hz |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro.

Luna, the temporary Desktop:

CPU: AMD R9 7950XT  |~| Cooling: bq! Dark Rock 4 Pro |~| MOBO: Gigabyte Aorus Master |~| RAM: 32G Kingston HyperX |~| GPU: AMD Radeon RX 7900XTX (Reference) |~| PSU: Corsair HX1000 80+ Platinum |~| Windows Boot Drive: 2x 512GB (1TB total) Plextor SATA SSD (RAID0 volume) |~| Linux Boot Drive: 500GB Kingston A2000 |~| Storage: 4TB WD Black HDD |~| Case: Cooler Master Silencio S600 |~| Display 1 (leftmost): Eizo (unknown model) 1920x1080 IPS @ 60Hz|~| Display 2 (center): BenQ ZOWIE XL2540 1920x1080 TN @ 240Hz |~| Display 3 (rightmost): Wacom Cintiq Pro 24 3840x2160 IPS @ 60Hz 10-bit |~| OS: Windows 10 Pro (games / art) + Linux (distro: NixOS; programming and daily driver)
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5 minutes ago, myselfolli said:

Why does everyone want to go for an i7? Sure it's nice for bragging rights, but if you're purely gaming on your machine, your cores will sit there idling. An i5 is perfectly fine and a lot cheaper in most cases

for the purchase to be worth it there needs to be noticeable gains, but that's not much on the quad core i5 compared to the 6 core i5s and Ryzen 5s.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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6 minutes ago, Dubious Gaming: bl4z3 said:

I have  a ASRock H270 pro. I prefer not to buy new but i will if there's no other option

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2 minutes ago, myselfolli said:

Pro4 I assume?

 

Check the filter on pcpartpicker

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6 minutes ago, myselfolli said:

Why does everyone want to go for an i7? Sure it's nice for bragging rights, but if you're purely gaming on your machine, your cores will sit there idling. An i5 is perfectly fine and a lot cheaper in most cases

4c/4t is a useless investment. More and more games start requiring around 6 threads at least to maintain a smooth experience. A CPU with4  threads is great for MS Office or kids games, but for AAA gaming, it's less than adequate.

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Just now, NelizMastr said:

4c/4t is a useless investment. More and more games start requiring around 6 threads at least to maintain a smooth experience. A CPU with4  threads is great for MS Office or kids games, but for AAA gaming, it's less than adequate.

I don't agree, six cores is usually overkill for games, especially since OP is probably running his at 1080p 60fps. There's not much point in getting a 6c/nt CPU with a 1050ti

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Crap. i hit the wrong button

 

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Just now, myselfolli said:

I don't agree, six cores is usually overkill for games, especially since OP is probably running his at 1080p 60fps. There's not much point in getting a 6c/nt CPU with a 1050ti

Maybe OP wants a better GPU in the future. Good luck maxing out an RTX2070 with a puny 4t CPU in a game like BFV. Not happening.

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2 minutes ago, NelizMastr said:

4c/4t is a useless investment. More and more games start requiring around 6 threads at least to maintain a smooth experience. A CPU with4  threads is great for MS Office or kids games, but for AAA gaming, it's less than adequate.

I can play CS:GO, Fortnite, Unreal tournament league of legends and more on a dual-core and a 1050ti, 1080p medium-high settings at 60 FPS.

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Just now, Dubious Gaming: bl4z3 said:

I can play CS:GO, Fortnite, Unreal tournament league of legends and more on a dual-core and a 1050ti, 1080p medium-high settings at 60 FPS.

then just stay on the 7100, no need for upgrade.

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Just now, NelizMastr said:

Maybe OP wants a better GPU in the future. Good luck maxing out an RTX2070 with a puny 4t CPU in a game like BFV. Not happening.

Well going from a 1050ti to a 2070 is quite the jump as well. The point I'm trying to make is, that at OPs price point an i5 is the best option.

 

I personally probably wouldn't even upgrade my CPU for the moment and rather get a bigger budget and buy both a CPU and GPU then

75% of what I say is sarcastic

 

So is the rest probably

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1 minute ago, NelizMastr said:

Maybe OP wants a better GPU in the future. Good luck maxing out an RTX2070 with a puny 4t CPU in a game like BFV. Not happening.

By then i would have upgraded to a 8th or 9th gen CPU. 4 cores are not bad with a 1070ti. that's probably what my next GPU is.

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