Harvey Norman gaming pc

[Guest]

Okay i was at Harvey Norman today and discovered today this PC gaming rig, i dont know it is good value it has a 1080ti video card after the Walmart incident i don't know maybe Linus tech tips could investigate and see a YouTube video linus do what they do best, i taken pictures 

 

so that is the product i wonder if Linus Tech Administrator would be nice enough to investigate and do benchmarking and components check please this might be all i need.

[r4tch3t]

13 minutes ago, James Aplin said:

Okay i was at Harvey Norman today and discovered today this PC gaming rig, i dont know it is good value it has a 1080ti video card after the Walmart incident i don't know maybe Linus tech tips could investigate and see a YouTube video linus do what they do best, i taken pictures 

 

so that is the product i wonder if Linus Tech Administrator would be nice enough to investigate and do benchmarking and components check please this might be all i need.

That will be a great pc. It's made by Asus not a home brand Harvey Norman pc. You can probably save some money if you build it yourself.

[bleedblue]

4 minutes ago, r4tch3t said:

That will be a great pc. It's made by Asus not a home brand Harvey Norman pc. You can probably save some money if you build it yourself.

That's an Acer Predator prebuilt.

Depends, what's in it and how much does it cost? Are you not comfortable with building your own?

[r4tch3t]

@bleedblue Link to online listing. 

I7 8th gen, 16gb, 1080 non ti version. 2tb hybrid sshd. 

Not that great a deal price wise. No screen either.

Build it yourself or find a mate to help. You'll learn enough to maintain it in the future and have a much better pc. 

For that price you could probably get a 9700k, 1080ti, 16gb, 1TB SSD and 4TB HDD or something like that. 

[SupaKomputa]

Its acer predator not asus rog.

What's good about prebuilds is the solid case quality, other than that you can build it yourself.

For $4000 you can build the top of the line parts.

[Spotty]

Looking at the tag it appears to be an Acer Predator G9 P09-600 for $3998. https://www.harveynorman.com.au/predator-orion-g9-p09-600-gaming-desktop.html

Without even looking at what is inside it, I can tell you that being sold by Harvey Norman that it is most certainly a rip off.

Comparison if you were to build it yourself ($1300 saving)
Note: GTX1080s in short supply/overpriced, so went with RTX2070 instead which performs about the same, even a little better.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i7-8700K 3.7 GHz 6-Core Processor	$565.05 @ Amazon Australia
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$119.00 @ IJK
Motherboard	Asus - Prime Z370-A ATX LGA1151 Motherboard	$262.95 @ Kogan
Memory	Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$195.00 @ Skycomp Technology
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$118.00 @ Umart
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$82.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card	EVGA - GeForce RTX 2070 8 GB Black Video Card	$829.00 @ Umart
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500P Mesh White ATX Mid Tower Case	$189.00 @ BudgetPC
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx 550 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$138.00 @ Umart
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$138.00 @ Shopping Express
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$2636.00
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-07 16:13 AEDT+1100

 

 

25 minutes ago, James Aplin said:

Okay i was at Harvey Norman today and discovered today this PC gaming rig, i dont know it is good value it has a 1080ti video card

Wait, you're looking at the $5198 G9 P09-900 which has the 7900X & 1080Ti? https://www.harveynorman.com.au/predator-orion-g9-p09-900-gaming-desktop.html

Jeeze, that's even more of a rip off. It has a i9 7900X and calls itself a gaming PC? What bloody idiot thinks that is a gaming system? It also uses X299 with quad channel memory but only comes with 2x8GB!? Argh!

 

Comparison if you built it yourself ($1200 saving)
Note: I do NOT recommend this as a gaming system. Skylake X (X299/i9 7900X) is NOT a gaming CPU, and would just be a waste of money.

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Type	Item	Price
CPU	Intel - Core i9-7900X 3.3 GHz 10-Core Processor	$1399.00 @ BudgetPC
CPU Cooler	Noctua - NH-D15 82.5 CFM CPU Cooler	$119.00 @ IJK
Motherboard	Asus - PRIME X299-A ATX LGA2066 Motherboard	$389.00 @ PCCaseGear
Memory	Team - T-Force Delta RGB 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3000 Memory	$195.00 @ Skycomp Technology
Storage	Samsung - 860 Evo 500 GB 2.5" Solid State Drive	$118.00 @ Umart
Storage	Seagate - Barracuda 2 TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive	$82.00 @ Shopping Express
Video Card	Gigabyte - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti 11 GB AORUS Xtreme Edition 11G Video Card	$1229.00 @ Umart
Case	Cooler Master - MasterCase H500P Mesh White ATX Mid Tower Case	$189.00 @ BudgetPC
Power Supply	Corsair - RMx 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply	$165.00 @ IJK
Operating System	Microsoft - Windows 10 Home OEM 64-bit	$138.00 @ Shopping Express
	Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
	Total	$4023.00
	Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-12-07 16:16 AEDT+1100

 

 

It looks bloody hideous though. Handles? HANDLES?! No-one is going to be carrying that huge thing to a LAN party... Do people even have LAN parties these days?

[SupaKomputa]

2 minutes ago, r4tch3t said:

Link to online listing. 

I7 8th gen, 16gb, 1080 non ti version. 2tb hybrid sshd. 

Not that great a deal price wise. No screen either. 

2 hybrid sshd? why they are so cheap, with that kind of money you can get a real ssd.

Total cost of that system no higher than $1500.

[SoreRaito]

5 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

 

Here in Australia Prices are different...

 

but yeah he could save a huge chunk of $ when he build a better system himself.

[Arika]

23 minutes ago, James Aplin said:

Harvey Norman

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good value

no, straight away

 

 

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so that is the product i wonder if Linus Tech Administrator would be nice enough to investigate and do benchmarking and components check please this might be all i need.

you want someone to buy this PC and benchmark it for you?.....

[SupaKomputa]

@SoreRaito 4000 aud still 3000 usd

[Arika]

Just now, SupaKomputa said:

@SoreRaito 4000 aud still 3000 usd

it's not as easy as just doing a currency conversion. all our prices are inflated over the US prices

[r4tch3t]

1 minute ago, Arika S said:

it's not as easy as just doing a currency conversion. all our prices are inflated over the US prices

You can still save a grand and have a better system at Australian prices. 

[Spotty]

3 minutes ago, SupaKomputa said:

Total cost of that system no higher than $1500.

Prices shown from Harvey Norman in the OP are AUD and include tax, however $1500 USD is probably pretty close for the build if you were building it in the USA. If you convert the PCPP list I did for the $3998 G9 P09-600 system it works out to be $1740 USD, but I'm sure if you bothered to actually look for more affordable parts like the case, motherboard, RAM, PSU, etc you could get it down to $1500. I pretty much just clicked on whatever was first listed in PCPP list since I knew the Harvey Norman/Acer Predator systems would be such a rip off that I wouldn't even need to try and pick affordable parts to show what a rip off it was

 

US build (USD $1740): https://pcpartpicker.com/list/v6GwZR

 

[Spotty]

31 minutes ago, James Aplin said:

so that is the product i wonder if Linus Tech Administrator would be nice enough to investigate and do benchmarking and components check please this might be all i need.

What do you want the PC for? If you tell us what you want the system for and if you're gaming what games you will be playing, what resolution/refresh rate, we will be able to help you either find parts to build the system yourself, or if you don't want to build it yourself we can help find some prebuilt PCs that meet your needs that aren't a complete rip off like that Harvey Norman "Gaming" PC.

[AskTJ]

Huge mark up on the parts. Not worth it.

[Guest]

No im not uncomfortable building a pc, well only thing i own is a corsair 1200watt power supply, next product i save up for is a X399 Disignare TR4 motherboard march 2019, then 12 month after that a TR4 2990WX 32 core CPU then another 12 months after CPU purchase DDR4 3466 128gigs of ram the 10 years after that 2 by Quadro RTX 6000 GPU by then nothing will match and components will become out dated, and i go on a wild goose chasing a fantasy.

[Speed Weed]

$4k. This PC better equip with reputable hardware brand and quality. 

[Spotty]

Just now, James Aplin said:

No im not uncomfortable building a pc, well only thing i own is a corsair 1200watt power supply, next product i save up for is a X399 Disignare TR4 motherboard march 2019, then 12 month after that a TR4 2990WX 32 core CPU then another 12 months after CPU purchase DDR4 3466 128gigs of ram the 10 years after that 2 by Quadro RTX 6000 GPU by then nothing will match and components will become out dated, and i go on a wild goose chasing a fantasy.

You're looking at workstation PCs? What sort of workloads will you be doing? What programs are you running?

[bleedblue]

17 minutes ago, r4tch3t said:

@bleedblue Link to online listing. 

I7 8th gen, 16gb, 1080 non ti version. 2tb hybrid sshd. 

Not that great a deal price wise. No screen either.

Build it yourself or find a mate to help. You'll learn enough to maintain it in the future and have a much better pc. 

For that price you could probably get a 9700k, 1080ti, 16gb, 1TB SSD and 4TB HDD or something like that. 

Processor Type	Core i7
Processor Model	Intel 8th Gen

 

Much describe wow. Lmao these specs

[Guest]

33 minutes ago, Spotty said:

What do you want the PC for? If you tell us what you want the system for and if you're gaming what games you will be playing, what resolution/refresh rate, we will be able to help you either find parts to build the system yourself, or if you don't want to build it yourself we can help find some prebuilt PCs that meet your needs that aren't a complete rip off like that Harvey Norman "Gaming" PC.

I m going to download Unreal engine 4.21 is the latest version but i been on UE4 forum when UE4 goes to higher upgrade before UE5 is released they be switch to RTX video cards im want to build pc for photorealism, heng on a bit i go to UE4 market place i get some snap shots of some assets then i enter pictures from my Samsung S8 phone, okay hear we go.

now you can see what Unreal engine 4.21 is offering me these are taken pictures from UE4 marketplace Environmental assets there are 30 pages 25 per page  ranging from 1K up to 8K, so these are the programs also creation kit for Skyrim use Unreal engine 4 conjunction with Skyrim creation kit rebuilding Skyrim as well as developing other photorealistic games.

[r4tch3t]

43 minutes ago, James Aplin said:

 

Made a system with an 8700k, 2080, ssd etc With a GSync screen for the same price. Just a quick select the first option kind of thing. but don't get the Harvey Norman's pc. Call up PLE and they will help you if your not confident (not a shill, mattress in Australia but from PLE) 

 

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/629505/PLE-Custom-Intel-LGA1151-Coffee-Lake-Desktop-PC-System?KitId=629505&kc-6298=633590&kc-6298-qty=1&kc-6299=613556&kc-6299-qty=1&kc-6300=633621&kc-6300-qty=1&kc-6301=633081&kc-6301-qty=1&kc-6302=630970&kc-6302-qty=1&kc-6303=621165&kc-6303-qty=1&kc-6304=633203&kc-6304-qty=1&kc-6305=602206&kc-6305-qty=1&kc-6306=602206&kc-6306-qty=1&kc-6307=602214&kc-6307-qty=1&kc-6308=622046&kc-6308-qty=1&kc-6309=630936&kc-6309-qty=1&kc-6323=602206&kc-6323-qty=1&kc-6325=608230&kc-6325-qty=1&kc-6310=602206&kc-6310-qty=1&kc-6311=620010&kc-6311-qty=1&kc-6312=602206&kc-6312-qty=1&kc-6313=602206&kc-6313-qty=1&kc-6314=624322&kc-6314-qty=1&kc-6315=627451&kc-6315-qty=1&kc-6316=615991&kc-6316-qty=1&kc-6324=602206&kc-6324-qty=1&kc-6317=602206&kc-6317-qty=1&kc-6318=628401&kc-6318-qty=1&kc-6319=601343&kc-6319-qty=1&kc-6320=618036&kc-6320-qty=1&kc-6321=602202&kc-6321-qty=1&kc-6322=602203&kc-6322-qty=1

[Spotty]

2 minutes ago, James Aplin said:

I m going to download Unreal engine 4.21 is the latest version but i been on UE4 forum when UE4 goes to higher upgrade before UE5 is released they be switch to RTX video cards im want to build pc for photorealism, heng on a bit i go to UE4 market place i get some snap shots of some assets then i enter pictures from my Samsung S8 phone, okay hear we go.

What? I have no idea what you just wrote.

What are you buying the computer for? Are you going to be doing game design using the Unreal Engine and designing assets, or do you just want to play games?

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Spotty said:

You're looking at workstation PCs? What sort of workloads will you be doing? What programs are you running?

Now i found this you tube about Quadro RTX 6000 watch careful when the guy moves to the second monitor carefully read name Quadro RTX 6000 and name of game development company 

so that is really what is the future of game development, i thought Quadros wasn't any good for game development.

 

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, r4tch3t said:

Made a system with an 8700k, 2080, ssd etc With a GSync screen for the same price. Just a quick select the first option kind of thing. but don't get the Harvey Norman's pc. Call up PLE and they will help you if your not confident (not a shill, mattress in Australia but from PLE) 

 

https://www.ple.com.au/Products/629505/PLE-Custom-Intel-LGA1151-Coffee-Lake-Desktop-PC-System?KitId=629505&kc-6298=633590&kc-6298-qty=1&kc-6299=613556&kc-6299-qty=1&kc-6300=633621&kc-6300-qty=1&kc-6301=633081&kc-6301-qty=1&kc-6302=630970&kc-6302-qty=1&kc-6303=621165&kc-6303-qty=1&kc-6304=633203&kc-6304-qty=1&kc-6305=602206&kc-6305-qty=1&kc-6306=602206&kc-6306-qty=1&kc-6307=602214&kc-6307-qty=1&kc-6308=622046&kc-6308-qty=1&kc-6309=630936&kc-6309-qty=1&kc-6323=602206&kc-6323-qty=1&kc-6325=608230&kc-6325-qty=1&kc-6310=602206&kc-6310-qty=1&kc-6311=620010&kc-6311-qty=1&kc-6312=602206&kc-6312-qty=1&kc-6313=602206&kc-6313-qty=1&kc-6314=624322&kc-6314-qty=1&kc-6315=627451&kc-6315-qty=1&kc-6316=615991&kc-6316-qty=1&kc-6324=602206&kc-6324-qty=1&kc-6317=602206&kc-6317-qty=1&kc-6318=628401&kc-6318-qty=1&kc-6319=601343&kc-6319-qty=1&kc-6320=618036&kc-6320-qty=1&kc-6321=602202&kc-6321-qty=1&kc-6322=602203&kc-6322-qty=1

I did purchase my corsair 1200watt power supply from Scorptec

[Guest]

I just download pictures of assets from UE4 market place to show what im going to work with, also i want to use two.  4K monitors on one monitor work with UE4 the other 4K monitor i watch UE4 Landscape tutorials to copy the way they do the blueprinting 

 

So this is what blueprinting is all about it what makes game development work, when install assets into the Landscape like folage, trees grasses rocks ect.  So on one monitor work with landscape and do blue printing to install assets, on other monitor watch tutorials so i don't expected to remember how it goes.