Corsair TX750W on a future threadripper/i9 build

[axido]

Hi all,

 

my current X58 setup is running a Corsair TX750W power supply which is currently well above 8.5 years old. It has a lot of PCI-E and SATA connectors and so far has been running flawlessly (except for the occasional buzzing noises when idle).

Question is though; in the near future I plan on building a completely new rig for VR development/blahblah and I've been wondering if I should purchase a new power supply as well or stick with this one.

 

For the time being I'm thinking of a TR1920X/1070Ti build which should still be within the 750 Watt margin and I'm trying to save a buck if possible - should I bother finding a new power supply? Would the current one support threadripper?

 

[Cereal5]

The wattage would support it, but if you’re spending a grand plus on a new workstation, I think you can spare $50-75 on a new PSU. 8.5 Years is a old even for a really good PSU

[axido]

1 minute ago, Cereal5 said:

The wattage would support it, but if you’re spending a grand plus on a new workstation, I think you can spare $50-75 on a new PSU. 8.5 Years is a old even for a really good PSU

just barely managing to fit into the 1,050 euro budget since I already have the gpu- but sure, will see what can be done

[Cereal5]

1 minute ago, axides said:

just barely managing to fit into the 1,050 euro budget since I already have the gpu- but sure, will see what can be done

With Zen 2 will come 3rd gen threadripper, so prices will likely drop, and you can always save up a couple more dollars from now to then

[17030644]

50 minutes ago, axides said:

 

For the time being I'm thinking of a TR1920X/1070Ti build which should still be within the 750 Watt margin and I'm trying to save a buck if possible - should I bother finding a new power supply? Would the current one support threadripper?

 

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YES YOU DEFINITELY SHOULD

 

That PSU doesn't have independently regulated voltages and it's very old.

 

If you can afford a good computer, you can afford a good PSU

[DailyProcrastinator]

As others have said 750W is enough but that is an old model PSU and not of the greatest build quality. I highly recommend spending the extra $30-$50 and getting a good quality PSU. I recommend the EVGA G2 or G3, SeaSonic Prime or Focus series, or the Corsair RMx. These are some of the best quality PSU's on the market. And buying a cheap PSU is not worth it, voltage ripple alone can kill components and the TR CPU's draw a ton of power so not worth the risk.

[Stefan Payne]

7 hours ago, axides said:

For the time being I'm thinking of a TR1920X/1070Ti build which should still be within the 750 Watt margin and I'm trying to save a buck if possible - should I bother finding a new power supply? Would the current one support threadripper?

Saving a buck on Threadripper?!
What are you going to do with that plattform anyway?? Threadripper isn't the best choice for gaming...

 

And your thing is ancient, should be replaced because things changed - like modern Power Saving Mechanisms that cause a whole bunch of trouble...

[axido]

12 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Saving a buck on Threadripper?!
What are you going to do with that plattform anyway?? Threadripper isn't the best choice for gaming...

 

And your thing is ancient, should be replaced because things changed - like modern Power Saving Mechanisms that cause a whole bunch of trouble...

I'm still indecisive about the threadripper platform and might go with an i9 instead - I'm planning on VR development and 3D model creation, both of which are (should be?) pretty multithreaded processes - then again, I'm planning on posting a thread soon about the entire build to ask further questions or perhaps redo it entirely

 

I've got a thousand euro budget and was hoping to re-use some old equipment that has so far been serving well as I don't really want to overshoot the budget by much, but ye I won't re-use it on my new system

 

edit: I already have a 1070Ti that I'm going to use the new system with, budget is mostly just cpu/ram/mobo

[Stefan Payne]

On 12/3/2018 at 12:20 PM, axido said:

I'm still indecisive about the threadripper platform and might go with an i9 instead

Now that's really bullshit, as the "smallest" i9-9900k is even more expensive than a 12 Core Threadripper, you can even get a 1950X for that amount of money or a 2920X...

Though the Motherboard is 'a bit' more expensive...

 

And there is also the issue with the PCIe lanes. Threadripper has 64 - 20 more than LGA2066 and 4 times that of LGA115x...

That is if you need it for example for NVME Storage devices.

 

If you consider Ryzen: AM4 with Ryzen CPU has 24 usable lanes (another 4 for the Chipset and another 4 n/c)...

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- I'm planning on VR development and 3D model creation, both of which are (should be?) pretty multithreaded processes - then again, I'm planning on posting a thread soon about the entire build to ask further questions or perhaps redo it entirely

Yeah, that sounds like Threadripper, especially with the bang for buck and AMD almost giving away the lower end 1k Series right now...

The Boardas are sadly really expensive, but also the features are pretty nice too...

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I've got a thousand euro budget and was hoping to re-use some old equipment that has so far been serving well as I don't really want to overshoot the budget by much, but ye I won't re-use it on my new system

Yeah but is it worth killing your new components or having unnecessary trouble like random reboots, shutdowns and similar crap?!

And your PSU can die any day anyway and with modern components it might not (just) that the PSU kills the components but that the components kill the PSU!!

[axido]

2 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Now that's really bullshit, as the "smallest" i9-9900k is even more expensive than a 12 Core Threadripper, you can even get a 1950X for that amount of money or a 2920X...

Though the Motherboard is 'a bit' more expensive...

I'm buying w/o VAT, ~250 for the mobo, ~500 for the i9, 105 for 16GB DDR4 and ~170 for a 1kW psu

All in euros mind you, already got a case and a gpu

 

and yeah, definitely considering team red this time, the mobos in general seem to support a lot more i/o (?) and threadripper seems like a very attractive platform for me personally

 

2 hours ago, Stefan Payne said:

Yeah but is it worth killing your new components or having unnecessary trouble like random reboots, shutdowns and similar crap?!

And your PSU can die any day anyway and with modern components it might not (just) that the PSU kills the components but that the components kill the PSU!!

yeah alright, I got it

 

thanks for the advice anyway ppl, appreciated

 

 

 

 

[Stefan Payne]

17 hours ago, axido said:

I'm buying w/o VAT, ~250 for the mobo, ~500 for the i9, 105 for 16GB DDR4 and ~170 for a 1kW psu

All in euros mind you, already got a case and a gpu

What I9 are you talking about?? The LGA1151 one?
The 9900K??

That one only has dual Channel DDR-SDRAM Interface and, as said, only 16 native PCIe 3.0 Lanes.

Everything else is tunneled via the Chipset...

17 hours ago, axido said:

and yeah, definitely considering team red this time, the mobos in general seem to support a lot more i/o (?) and threadripper seems like a very attractive platform for me personally

Yeah, the Ryzen Desktop CPUs right now have up to 24 Lanes you can use - 8 more than Intel, if the Motherboard Manufacturer implements it and configures the CPU this way...

For that to know you have to look at the Diagram inside the Motherboard manual...

 

For AMD HEDT (TR4) its much easier as the CPU comes with a ton of I/O like up to 64 PCIe Lanes (probably -4 for "Chipset" that is used there for whatever reason), a couple of S-ATA, USB 3.0 and so on (IIRC it should be 4x S-ATA inside the CPU)...

 

And yes, AMD Ryzen don't really have a CHipset, only a PCIe to S-ATA/USB Bridge...

[axido]

1 minute ago, Stefan Payne said:

18 hours ago, axido said:

I'm buying w/o VAT, ~250 for the mobo, ~500 for the i9, 105 for 16GB DDR4 and ~170 for a 1kW psu

All in euros mind you, already got a case and a gpu

What I9 are you talking about?? The LGA1151 one?
The 9900K??

That one only has dual Channel DDR-SDRAM Interface and, as said, only 16 native PCIe 3.0 Lanes.

Everything else is tunneled via the Chipset...

the 9900k yeah, should've been more specific 

 

5 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

Yeah, the Ryzen Desktop CPUs right now have up to 24 Lanes you can use - 8 more than Intel, if the Motherboard Manufacturer implements it and configures the CPU this way...

For that to know you have to look at the Diagram inside the Motherboard manual...

 

For AMD HEDT (TR4) its much easier as the CPU comes with a ton of I/O like up to 64 PCIe Lanes (probably -4 for "Chipset" that is used there for whatever reason), a couple of S-ATA, USB 3.0 and so on (IIRC it should be 4x S-ATA inside the CPU)...

 

And yes, AMD Ryzen don't really have a CHipset, only a PCIe to S-ATA/USB Bridge...

the upgrade is still a distance away, it's nothing I'm gonna go shopping for tomorrow, most likely will wait for zen2

but yh, I'm sticking with amd this time around

 

 

 

 

[Stefan Payne]

7 minutes ago, axido said:

the upgrade is still a distance away, it's nothing I'm gonna go shopping for tomorrow, most likely will wait for zen2

but yh, I'm sticking with amd this time around

From what you hear it might be less than half a year away...

[axido]

3 minutes ago, Stefan Payne said:

From what you hear it might be less than half a year away...

i've got time