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Here's what my SO's tower has at the moment: 

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.8GHz

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650

RAM: 16 GB (Not sure if DDR3/4/5)

Storage: Samsung 850 Evo 500 GB

The system info dialogue has no information about what the motherboard is and I'm not sure what PSU the thing has.

 

She plays two games: Overwatch and The Elder Scrolls Online. Neither of us are planning on playing more games in the future (if anything, we'll likely have less time once we have full time jobs). She'll be getting a 144 Hz (or 240 Hz) display (definitely not 4K) some time soon (depending on what shows up on the used market). Ideally, being able to run Overwatch on medium to high settings and getting well over 120 FPS and being able to run ESO at medium to high settings would be amazing. Other than that, she uses Photoshop every now and then, but nothing crazy. This is all going to be done on a student budget, so we'll stick to buying second hand stuff. As her requirements aren't crazy, hopefully we should be able to find something reasonable, right?

 

The current plan is to look for a GTX 1070 Ti (they sell for close to €300). Would this be enough to get a decent frame rate in OW at medium/high settings or would the 3rd Gen i5 be a bottleneck? If yes, then what would be a reasonable CPU upgrade? Is there anything else we should be considering? I hope I've provided enough info - if y'all need more details, lemme know :)

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1 minute ago, AkshayRao27 said:

would the 3rd Gen i5 be a bottleneck?

Yes, for 144Hz. You need something like an i7 7700 or 6700 for high refresh rates, but the good value seems to be in 8th gen i5 processors. Ryzen is an option too but it's not as good at high refresh rates as more recent Intel. 

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i7 8086k - EVGA Z370 Classified K - G.Skill Trident Z RGB - WD SN750 - Jedi Order Titan Xp - Hyper 212 Black (with RGB Riing flair) - EVGA G3 650W - dual booting Windows 10 and Linux - Black and green theme, Razer brainwashed me.

Draws 400 watts under max load, for reference.

 

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4 minutes ago, AkshayRao27 said:

would the 3rd Gen i5 be a bottleneck?

massively

 

4 minutes ago, AkshayRao27 said:

If yes, then what would be a reasonable CPU upgrade?

RX 570 is especially cheap among mid range cards, even new ones.

 

4 minutes ago, AkshayRao27 said:

Is there anything else we should be considering?

the model of power supply

 

4 minutes ago, AkshayRao27 said:

16 GB (Not sure if DDR3/4/5)

DDR3, 3rd gen can only use DDR3

CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1

 

Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync

 

Desktop benching:

Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 

SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s

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Something like a 3770k or xeon equivelent would be a great upgrade if you have a z series mobo. The 1070 ti will do you great, and you might want to check your psu if you're going to put such expensive hardware in it

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18 minutes ago, AkshayRao27 said:

Here's what my SO's tower has at the moment: 

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.8GHz

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650

RAM: 16 GB (Not sure if DDR3/4/5)

Storage: Samsung 850 Evo 500 GB

The system info dialogue has no information about what the motherboard is and I'm not sure what PSU the thing has.

 

She plays two games: Overwatch and The Elder Scrolls Online. Neither of us are planning on playing more games in the future (if anything, we'll likely have less time once we have full time jobs). She'll be getting a 144 Hz (or 240 Hz) display (definitely not 4K) some time soon (depending on what shows up on the used market). Ideally, being able to run Overwatch on medium to high settings and getting well over 120 FPS and being able to run ESO at medium to high settings would be amazing. Other than that, she uses Photoshop every now and then, but nothing crazy. This is all going to be done on a student budget, so we'll stick to buying second hand stuff. As her requirements aren't crazy, hopefully we should be able to find something reasonable, right?

 

The current plan is to look for a GTX 1070 Ti (they sell for close to €300). Would this be enough to get a decent frame rate in OW at medium/high settings or would the 3rd Gen i5 be a bottleneck? If yes, then what would be a reasonable CPU upgrade? Is there anything else we should be considering? I hope I've provided enough info - if y'all need more details, lemme know :)

240 Hz outside of CS:GO is a no-go with the CPU. You'll actually be frequency bottlenecked more than anything else. 1070 Ti is about as far as you'd want to push it with that setup. However, if you view it as a terminal upgrade to the system, you'll be fine.

 

If you're in for an upgrade of an almost 7 year old system, get a new PSU as well. Something in the "Value" category, but 450-550w with a 80+ Bronze rating from a good company. (See the PSU Tier list on the PSU section of the forum.) 

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On 11/30/2018 at 3:46 AM, AkshayRao27 said:

Here's what my SO's tower has at the moment: 

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 CPU @ 3.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~3.8GHz

GPU: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650

RAM: 16 GB (Not sure if DDR3/4/5)

Storage: Samsung 850 Evo 500 GB

The system info dialogue has no information about what the motherboard is and I'm not sure what PSU the thing has.

 

She plays two games: Overwatch and The Elder Scrolls Online. Neither of us are planning on playing more games in the future (if anything, we'll likely have less time once we have full time jobs). She'll be getting a 144 Hz (or 240 Hz) display (definitely not 4K) some time soon (depending on what shows up on the used market). Ideally, being able to run Overwatch on medium to high settings and getting well over 120 FPS and being able to run ESO at medium to high settings would be amazing. Other than that, she uses Photoshop every now and then, but nothing crazy. This is all going to be done on a student budget, so we'll stick to buying second hand stuff. As her requirements aren't crazy, hopefully we should be able to find something reasonable, right?

 

The current plan is to look for a GTX 1070 Ti (they sell for close to €300). Would this be enough to get a decent frame rate in OW at medium/high settings or would the 3rd Gen i5 be a bottleneck? If yes, then what would be a reasonable CPU upgrade? Is there anything else we should be considering? I hope I've provided enough info - if y'all need more details, lemme know :)

DDR3 most likely.  No DDR4 or DDR5 for socket 1155 IIRC.

 

HardwareCanucks did a video a while back wherein they paired a 1080 Ti with an i7-2600K.  Could give you an idea on performance: 

 

CPU: Sempron 2500+ / P4 2.8E / P4 2.6C / A64 x2 4000+ / E6420 / E8500 / i5-3470 / i7-3770
GPU: TNT2 M64 / Radeon 9000 / MX 440-SE / 7300GT / Radeon 4670 / GTS 250 / Radeon 7950 / 660 Ti

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All right so based on everything y'all suggested and looking at the old system, I guess it really doesn't make sense trying to upgrade all those components. For the money we'd spend upgrading all of these parts, we can buy a more recent system on the used market.

We'll leave this system at SO's fam's and buy a new "used" desktop :)

 

Made a thread about it here.

 

If there's any way to close this thread, I'd like to request the mods to please do so, thanks!

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1 hour ago, AkshayRao27 said:

If there's any way to close this thread, I'd like to request the mods to please do so, thanks!

Done :)

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