Posted November 27, 2018 Using really long screws could you mount a 140mm fan onto a 140mm radiator with this adapter and funnel the 140mm fans static pressure through a 120mm opening to have superior airflow? __ ___ ~~ X \ | | ~~ X \ | | ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X / | | ~~ X__ / | __ | __ ~ X _/ | | ~ Air Fan Funnel Radiator Air NOTICE: Air is 14 units wide before at 140mm fan and after 120mm Adapter is only 12 units wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 27, 2018 I assume 140mm fan on 120mm radiator? duct tape and more duct tape CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 27, 2018 Author 2 minutes ago, Jurrunio said: I assume 140mm fan on 120mm radiator? duct tape and more duct tape No, 140mm fan on a 140mm rad using the 120mm adapter but longer screws going straight through to the radiator. Will this focus airflow through the radiator better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 27, 2018 Why would you do this? It won't improve temperatures. My Rig CPU - Ryzen 5 1600@3.8ghz GPU - XFX XXX RX580 8g Cooler - Arctic Freezer 33 eSports edition green Motherboard - Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 Ram - G.Skill 2x8 Ripjaws 5 2666 Case - Pahntecs P400s TGE Modded with Green accents PSU - Seasonic M1211 evo 620w SSD - Samsung 960 evo 500 GB HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2tb Fans - 2 be quiet SilentWings 3 OS - Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Cables - Cable Mod Green Cable Extension Peripherals Mouse - Logitech G502 Keyboard - k95 Platinum Brown Headset - Philips SHP9500s + Vmoda Boom Pro Monitor - LG 29UM69GB Webcam - USB webcam for Wii Fitness game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 28, 2018 Author 2 minutes ago, Vandorlot said: Why would you do this? It won't improve temperatures. It won't improve or will it increase temperatures? You're taking the static pressure of a 140mm fan and forcing it through a 120mm hole. Fans already have a dead spot, and wouldn't this direct airflow more toward the center as well? The only downside I see is that the edges of the radiator are not getting hit, but with a 140mm fan pulling straight off the surface of the other side it wouldn't be neglected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 28, 2018 1 minute ago, VoidParticle said: It won't improve or will it increase temperatures? You're taking the static pressure of a 140mm fan and forcing it through a 120mm hole. Fans already have a dead spot, and wouldn't this direct airflow more toward the center as well? The only downside I see is that the edges of the radiator are not getting hit, but with a 140mm fan pulling straight off the surface of the other side it wouldn't be neglected. It could increase temperatures because your losing like 20-30 percent of the radiator surface area and a static pressure increase won't make up for this. My Rig CPU - Ryzen 5 1600@3.8ghz GPU - XFX XXX RX580 8g Cooler - Arctic Freezer 33 eSports edition green Motherboard - Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 Ram - G.Skill 2x8 Ripjaws 5 2666 Case - Pahntecs P400s TGE Modded with Green accents PSU - Seasonic M1211 evo 620w SSD - Samsung 960 evo 500 GB HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2tb Fans - 2 be quiet SilentWings 3 OS - Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Cables - Cable Mod Green Cable Extension Peripherals Mouse - Logitech G502 Keyboard - k95 Platinum Brown Headset - Philips SHP9500s + Vmoda Boom Pro Monitor - LG 29UM69GB Webcam - USB webcam for Wii Fitness game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 28, 2018 Author 1 minute ago, Vandorlot said: It could increase temperatures because your losing like 20-30 percent of the radiator surface area and a static pressure increase won't make up for this. 5 minutes ago, VoidParticle said: but with a 140mm fan pulling straight off the surface of the other side it wouldn't be neglected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, VoidParticle said: Are you saying there will be another fan on the other side of the radiator as well? My Rig CPU - Ryzen 5 1600@3.8ghz GPU - XFX XXX RX580 8g Cooler - Arctic Freezer 33 eSports edition green Motherboard - Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 Ram - G.Skill 2x8 Ripjaws 5 2666 Case - Pahntecs P400s TGE Modded with Green accents PSU - Seasonic M1211 evo 620w SSD - Samsung 960 evo 500 GB HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2tb Fans - 2 be quiet SilentWings 3 OS - Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Cables - Cable Mod Green Cable Extension Peripherals Mouse - Logitech G502 Keyboard - k95 Platinum Brown Headset - Philips SHP9500s + Vmoda Boom Pro Monitor - LG 29UM69GB Webcam - USB webcam for Wii Fitness game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 28, 2018 Author 1 minute ago, Vandorlot said: Are you saying there will be another fan on the other side of the radiator as well? Yes... that's why I wrote it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 28, 2018 Just now, VoidParticle said: Yes... that's why I wrote it. It won't neglect it because the second fan won't have enough power to pull the air through those dead zones cause that part is blocked off. Basically what i'm saying is that this idea won't work. If you want more static pressure by higher static pressure fans. My Rig CPU - Ryzen 5 1600@3.8ghz GPU - XFX XXX RX580 8g Cooler - Arctic Freezer 33 eSports edition green Motherboard - Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 Ram - G.Skill 2x8 Ripjaws 5 2666 Case - Pahntecs P400s TGE Modded with Green accents PSU - Seasonic M1211 evo 620w SSD - Samsung 960 evo 500 GB HDD - Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 2tb Fans - 2 be quiet SilentWings 3 OS - Windows 10 Home 64-Bit Cables - Cable Mod Green Cable Extension Peripherals Mouse - Logitech G502 Keyboard - k95 Platinum Brown Headset - Philips SHP9500s + Vmoda Boom Pro Monitor - LG 29UM69GB Webcam - USB webcam for Wii Fitness game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 28, 2018 Author Honestly I might as well just wait till I can afford to try this. Everyone is just confused what I'm asking and I might as well "FOR SCIENCE" it when my build is done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 28, 2018 Author 5 minutes ago, Vandorlot said: It won't neglect it because the second fan won't have enough power to pull the air through those dead zones cause that part is blocked off. Basically what i'm saying is that this idea won't work. If you want more static pressure by higher static pressure fans. I could see the Pull Fan underperforming the total airflow a Push Fan would have but it wouldn't in any way be blocked off. If this successfully cools the middle part of the radiator better then more heat can move onto the center part. Also with all the fins on a radiator being together heat should diffuse around to a cooler spot right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 28, 2018 51 minutes ago, VoidParticle said: No, 140mm fan on a 140mm rad using the 120mm adapter but longer screws going straight through to the radiator. Will this focus airflow through the radiator better? it will do worse than just using duct tape to seal the gaps between a 140mm fan on a 140mm AIO, no adapters. Period. CPU: i7-2600K 4751MHz 1.44V (software) --> 1.47V at the back of the socket Motherboard: Asrock Z77 Extreme4 (BCLK: 103.3MHz) CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D15 RAM: Adata XPG 2x8GB DDR3 (XMP: 2133MHz 10-11-11-30 CR2, custom: 2203MHz 10-11-10-26 CR1 tRFC:230 tREFI:14000) GPU: Asus GTX 1070 Dual (Super Jetstream vbios, +70(2025-2088MHz)/+400(8.8Gbps)) SSD: Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (main boot drive), Transcend SSD370 128GB PSU: Seasonic X-660 80+ Gold Case: Antec P110 Silent, 5 intakes 1 exhaust Monitor: AOC G2460PF 1080p 144Hz (150Hz max w/ DP, 121Hz max w/ HDMI) TN panel Keyboard: Logitech G610 Orion (Cherry MX Blue) with SteelSeries Apex M260 keycaps Mouse: BenQ Zowie FK1 Model: HP Omen 17 17-an110ca CPU: i7-8750H (0.125V core & cache, 50mV SA undervolt) GPU: GTX 1060 6GB Mobile (+80/+450, 1650MHz~1750MHz 0.78V~0.85V) RAM: 8+8GB DDR4-2400 18-17-17-39 2T Storage: HP EX920 1TB PCIe x4 M.2 SSD + Crucial MX500 1TB 2.5" SATA SSD, 128GB Toshiba PCIe x2 M.2 SSD (KBG30ZMV128G) gone cooking externally, 1TB Seagate 7200RPM 2.5" HDD (ST1000LM049-2GH172) left outside Monitor: 1080p 126Hz IPS G-sync Desktop benching: Cinebench R15 Single thread:168 Multi-thread: 833 SuperPi (v1.5 from Techpowerup, PI value output) 16K: 0.100s 1M: 8.255s 32M: 7m 45.93s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted November 28, 2018 Author 1 minute ago, Jurrunio said: it will do worse than just using duct tape to seal the gaps between a 140mm fan on a 140mm AIO, no adapters. Period. Ok. What do you think about gaskets instead of tape? What about Gaskets that add more depth between fan and radiator? Phobya has some that go up to 10mm of distance (while also giving a seal). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 2, 2018 On 11/27/2018 at 6:41 PM, VoidParticle said: Using really long screws could you mount a 140mm fan onto a 140mm radiator with this adapter and funnel the 140mm fans static pressure through a 120mm opening to have superior airflow? __ ___ ~~ X \ | | ~~ X \ | | ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X | | ~~ ~~ X / | | ~~ X__ / | __ | __ ~ X _/ | | ~ Air Fan Funnel Radiator Air NOTICE: Air is 14 units wide before at 140mm fan and after 120mm Adapter is only 12 units wide. Can a funnel like be used to adapt a 140mm fan to 120mm fan mount? I can mount 2 exhaust fans on my case, one 120mm and the other can fit either 120 or 140. I'd like to bundle and save because the fans that I want are walled behind the rapey NZXT HUE 2 ecosystem. Should I sacrifice an advertised 40 CFM of airflow on one of the fans and get two 120mm fans (+ proprietary controller)? or should I get the two 140mm fans and an adapter like this. I don't know if anyone here is into fluid dynamics or anything, but I don't know if these adapters would suck on a crucial exhaust? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Posted December 2, 2018 air is already the limiting factor in watercooling... as explained by many a respondents in various threads. As the fluid still goes through the rad to transfer the actual displaced energy off the system. Spoiler This would be a more practical application of the adapter to mount a 140 mm fan or rad to a 120mm mount. @MannyVee to mount this way onto a 140mm fan rad is a waste of effort and Rad. (if you mounted like this onto a 120mm rad maybe not) I tried to draw a basic picture of how you are effectively reducing the cooling capacity with a handicap before even starting. @VoidParticle Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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