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Slow Transfer Speeds

Hi everyone,

I have a i5-2500 and a ASUS P861 - M LX (2.0) Motherboard, i have a single Hard Drive ( Segate Baraccuda 2TB SATA 6Gb/s) running and a external Hard Drive (Segate 1TB Backup Slim Plus) running with my PC. The Internal Hard Drive is Partitioned 250GB for Drive C and rest is a single drive for DATA.

The problem is when even copying files using on board SATA 3Gb/s ports from Drive D to C, I get Max 50MB/s usually which stays around 35MB/s.

And when copying via a USB2.0 port to my external hard drive(3.0) i usually get 25-30 MB/s and to USB3.0 stick Max 8.0 MB/s i have tried enabling cache but no significant improvement.

Can anyone here explain what is wrong here ? Aren't i supposed to get 100 - 150 MB/s with on board hard drives and 40 -50 MB/s via USB ports?

Thanks
 

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As you can see from the crystaldiskinfo pic you posted, the speed depends on what type of data is being transferred.

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SATA 3gbit is only 35mb/s so you are getting exactly what you are supposed to. Connect it to a sata3 port and you'll be fine.

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7 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

SATA 3gbit is only 35mb/s so you are getting exactly what you are supposed to. Connect it to a sata3 port and you'll be fine.

Umm 3Gbit is 375MB!

 

The problem here is more likely that its 72 files, so it will boost to full speed for a single file, then wait for IO to finish, then boost, then wait.  Normal HDD behaviour.

 

Also, why are there exclamation marks next to two of the HDDs listed?

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2 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Umm 3Gbit is 375MB!

 

The problem here is more likely that its 72 files, so it will boost to full speed for a single file, then wait for IO to finish, then boost, then wait.  Normal HDD behaviour.

Lmao, you are right. Man, thats embarrissing.

 

But yeah, you are also right with the 72 files.

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The HDDs could also be fragmented.  We don't think about it much these days as Windows will defrag in the background when your PC is idle, but if you don't leave it idle then it could still be an issue.

 

I'm also curious that its not showing the CURRENT CPU clock rate on there.  Could it be overheating or otherwise getting stuck at the lowest clock rate due to some issue?

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So generally files are very difficult to gauge speeds. 1000's of small files WILL not transfer at maximum speeds, they will be slow. Large files tend to use as much bandwidth as allowed. Its why when you are transfering a folder with TONS of little files, it can take longer then a much larger single file.

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26 minutes ago, Enderman said:

As you can see from the crystaldiskinfo pic you posted, the speed depends on what type of data is being transferred.

I don't know what crystal disk results mean, what is q32t1 supposed to tell you etc. i just did so you guys have all info. to help me out here? so can you explain what are the results showing me?

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28 minutes ago, FloRolf said:

SATA 3gbit is only 35mb/s so you are getting exactly what you are supposed to. Connect it to a sata3 port and you'll be fine.

All six ports on my mobo are 3Gb/s it doesn't matter in which i plugin to !

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24 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

Umm 3Gbit is 375MB!

 

The problem here is more likely that its 72 files, so it will boost to full speed for a single file, then wait for IO to finish, then boost, then wait.  Normal HDD behaviour.

 

Also, why are there exclamation marks next to two of the HDDs listed?

Well each of these files is around 4GB so its not that i wouldn't be able to see the max speed for each file which i mentioned above is 50MB/s isn't it way less for a Segate (6Gb/s) drive connected to a 3Gb/s port ?

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3 minutes ago, Shimejii said:

So generally files are very difficult to gauge speeds. 1000's of small files WILL not transfer at maximum speeds, they will be slow. Large files tend to use as much bandwidth as allowed. Its why when you are transfering a folder with TONS of little files, it can take longer then a much larger single file.

I tried with a 4GB zipped file as well the speed stayed around 45-50 MB/s, i think its being bottle necked some how but i can't understand where !

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7 minutes ago, Fakhar Gillani said:

I don't know what crystal disk results mean, what is q32t1 supposed to tell you etc. i just did so you guys have all info. to help me out here? so can you explain what are the results showing me?

Basically unless you're transferring a single large uncompressed video file you're not gonna get 130MB/s.

If you need more speed buy an SSD.

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24 minutes ago, Alex Atkin UK said:

The HDDs could also be fragmented.  We don't think about it much these days as Windows will defrag in the background when your PC is idle, but if you don't leave it idle then it could still be an issue.

 

I'm also curious that its not showing the CURRENT CPU clock rate on there.  Could it be overheating or otherwise getting stuck at the lowest clock rate due to some issue?

I did Prime95 Stress Test too core temp didn't exceeded 60degree on stock cooler. And as for defragmentation i did it last week !

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17 minutes ago, Fakhar Gillani said:

I tried with a 4GB zipped file as well the speed stayed around 45-50 MB/s, i think its being bottle necked some how but i can't understand where !

What's the CPU usage during that transfer?  Its possibly just maxing out a single core.

 

Although I must admit the last time I tried to transfer a file to my Windows 10 laptop it seemed unusually slow, like you say.  I just assumed it was WiFi having a bad day but I wonder if a Windows 10 patch has affected performance?

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If your using mechanical hard drives -no matter the interface -the bigger the amount of file(s) -usually the slower the transfer.

You could try multiple instances of single file transfers and see if you get a speed increase.

Though I doubt much improvement could be seen -the opposite most likely may be true.

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That's another reason an OS SSD is useful as you can always copy a file to there and back to test, eliminating the potential that the combined latencies of both HDDs is somehow making things worse.

Plus if your SSD is running just as slow, you know something is very wrong.

 

The CrystalDiskMark numbers look about right though.

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Though after further review it seems that other people seem to have Hard Drive transfer issues as well with that model motherboard:

ASUS P861 - M LX (2.0)

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