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[DragonRR]

@Benzmann,

 

There are a three possible methods now.

 

1. You could use my method which is linked here - basically disable Windows fast boot in Windows. Solves the problem until a full driver is released which doesn't have the problem... This method is very easy to do but it will slow your shutdown times and startup from turning your system on.

 

Or

 

2. Pirata's method which involves installing a different reduced driver set which he links in this thread. The reduced driver doesn't have Sonic Studio which is not a massive problem although I quite like what it does.

 

Or

 

3. Some people seem to have solved the problem (like the OP) by installing an Intel Chipset driver from the MSI site. I have tried installing the latest chipset drivers myself but it made no difference.

 

NOTE!

The problem temporarily goes away if you restart your computer rather than do a default shut down. This means that you can think you've solved the problem after installing some drivers and then restarting.

 

 

 

Edited November 12, 2018 by DragonRR

[Benzmann]

11 hours ago, DragonRR said:

@Benzmann,

 

There are a three possible methods now.

 

1. You could use my method which is linked here - basically disable Windows fast boot in Windows. Solves the problem until a full driver is released which doesn't have the problem... This method is very easy to do but it will slow your shutdown times and startup from turning your system on.

 

Or

 

2. Pirata's method which involves installing a different reduced driver set which he links in this thread. The reduced driver doesn't have Sonic Studio which is not a massive problem although I quite like what it does.

 

Or

 

3. Some people seem to have solved the problem (like the OP) by installing an Intel Chipset driver from the MSI site. I have tried installing the latest chipset drivers myself but it made no difference.

 

NOTE!

The problem temporarily goes away if you restart your computer rather than do a default shut down. This means that you can think you've solved the problem after installing some drivers and then restarting.

 

 

 

Thanks alot, ill try these solutions, and let you all know how it works out for me

[Benzmann]

5 hours ago, Benzmann said:

Thanks alot, ill try these solutions, and let you all know how it works out for me

ok, problem seems to have been resolved for me hopefully.

i disabled the Windows Fast Boot Function.

i also installed new chipset drivers from the Asus Support site., i noticed that the new Armoury Crate Software from Asus that comes with the motherboard has a different Chipset driver for some reason,

 

Asus Armoury Crate Chipset Driver version: 10.1.16.5

Asus Support Site Chipset Driver version: 10.1.17695.8086

[DragonRR]

I'm glad the fast boot fix solved the problem for you. Hopefully Nahimic are reading these forums and can see there is a real problem with their driver software (assuming it is actually them of course).

 

I also have chipset driver version 10.1.16.5. On this installation I decided to leave it up to Armory crate to do all the work without fiddling and manually putting support site drivers on.

 

Interesting

As you suggest their support site has a newer driver 10.1.17695.8086 however, MSI seem to be showing an even newer driver than that 10.1.17711.8088.

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MPG-Z390-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC#down-driver&Win10 64

 

My Armory Crate installed realtek sound driver (6.0.1.8557), however, is actually newer than the one on the support site (6.0.1.8507)

[Benzmann]

21 hours ago, DragonRR said:

I'm glad the fast boot fix solved the problem for you. Hopefully Nahimic are reading these forums and can see there is a real problem with their driver software (assuming it is actually them of course).

 

I also have chipset driver version 10.1.16.5. On this installation I decided to leave it up to Armory crate to do all the work without fiddling and manually putting support site drivers on.

 

Interesting

As you suggest their support site has a newer driver 10.1.17695.8086 however, MSI seem to be showing an even newer driver than that 10.1.17711.8088.

 

https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/MPG-Z390-GAMING-PRO-CARBON-AC#down-driver&Win10 64

 

My Armory Crate installed realtek sound driver (6.0.1.8557), however, is actually newer than the one on the support site (6.0.1.8507)

 

 

im still facing this issue FFS.

 

disabling the Fast boot did not fix this for me.

 

 

[DragonRR]

That's odd Benzmann it worked on two different systems here and you have exactly the same motherboard as mine. I'm assuming you followed my guide and disabled fast boot in Windows? Disabling it in BIOS didn't have any affect for me.

 

I just double checked both systems, nothing on mine for over a week now but on the other system. It actually has produced the problem on odd days but only briefly, a couple of dump files today at 8:16am, a couple a few days before that. Are your dump files being created constantly still?

 

You might want to try the Intel chipset fix next and if that fails try the reduced driver set.

[Benzmann]

12 hours ago, DragonRR said:

That's odd Benzmann it worked on two different systems here and you have exactly the same motherboard as mine. I'm assuming you followed my guide and disabled fast boot in Windows? Disabling it in BIOS didn't have any affect for me.

 

I just double checked both systems, nothing on mine for over a week now but on the other system. It actually has produced the problem on odd days but only briefly, a couple of dump files today at 8:16am, a couple a few days before that. Are your dump files being created constantly still?

 

You might want to try the Intel chipset fix next and if that fails try the reduced driver set.

yeah i followed what you said. but everytime i shutdown my system for 3min or more and start it up again, then it comes again. if i restart, then it wont come.

i shut down my pc in the end of each day

 

though,when i got home yesterday and saw i still had the problem,. i opened up Task Manager, and Ended the Nahimic Process, right then copy paste started working again the way it should, then i went to services and started the service up again, and the problem returned right as the service started up.

 

so i decided to disable the Nahimic Service under "Services" and shut down my computer for 10mins, and turned it on again, so far so good.

when i  copy paste the error doesent come.

 

hopefully this has resolved the issue for me.

[DragonRR]

35 minutes ago, Benzmann said:

yeah i followed what you said. but everytime i shutdown my system for 3min or more and start it up again, then it comes again. if i restart, then it wont come.

i shut down my pc in the end of each day

 

though,when i got home yesterday and saw i still had the problem,. i opened up Task Manager, and Ended the Nahimic Process, right then copy paste started working again the way it should, then i went to services and started the service up again, and the problem returned right as the service started up.

 

so i decided to disable the Nahimic Service under "Services" and shut down my computer for 10mins, and turned it on again, so far so good.

when i  copy paste the error doesent come.

 

hopefully this has resolved the issue for me.

That's really strange. The fact that a restart fixes it for you means that it is the hybrid shutdown that is causing the problem.... so disabing fast startup should fix it!

 

I disabled the service myself when I was testing solutions. Unfortunately this ended up with me being unable to get Sonic Studio working again at all - this is why I ended up re-installing Windows. If you aren't too fussed about using Sonic Studio features then perhaps a better solution might be to install the slimmed driver without Nahimic from the Asus forums?

 

FYI - Asus support have been in touch with me. So far they haven't been able to duplicate the problem. This is strange to say the least because I couldn't find a way to avoid the problem on my machine or my son's if I install the full Nahmic driver.

[Nash007]

Damn this issue... No matter what you do it still comes up ...
Any recent solution or update found ?

 

[DragonRR]

The problem came back for me yesterday for the first time since I found the fast startup workaround on 31-10-18. It went away with another shutdown but the fact that it happens and there is no way of knowing without checking the temp folder or doing a copy and paste is really very annoying. In the space of just over 30 minutes the service wrote 446 dump files.

 

To recap:

 

1. You can disable fast startup in Windows. Solves it so it only happens rarely (for me at least). However, start-ups and shutdowns take considerably longer than normal.

 

2. You can disable the Nahimic service . Solves it but causes problems with the software (Sonic Studio in the case of Asus boards)

 

3. You can install a slimmed Asus or MSI driver (not sure if there is an MSI one). This avoids installing Sonic Studio/Nahimic but obviously you lose the features the software offers. I am beginning to find this quite tempting but the Nahimic software does really seem to enhance the sound.

 

I chased Asus yesterday and had a reply today that they still haven't been able to duplicate the problem. As I've mentioned on other forums - I have two systems with this problem (completely different hardware except they both have Sonic Studio 3 facility) and could not stop the problem on either no matter what I did. I think my contact at Asus UK is treating the problem seriously but I really don't know if Asus Taiwan are still working on it or have given up thinking that I'm just one user with a problem (despite pointing them at related forum posts).

 

Other forums listing the problem:

https://nahimic.helprace.com/s1-general/problems/new

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3814701/nahimic-audio-service.html

https://www.reddit.com/r/Alienware/comments/9gfejm/help_nahimic_service_crash_dump/

 

[DragonRR]

I've found that sometimes the service still manages to fail on a restart which explains why a shutdown with fast startup disabled doesn't always work.

 

I have written a short vb script which I run at logon to check whether there are dump files being written into my temp folder.

I've put the script up on Tom's here:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3786929/error-message-copying-pasting.html

 

It is reliant on you deleting the dump files once you've been alerted and may give the odd false positive because sometimes the Nahimic service creates a file or two in their anyway.

[PIRATA!]

3 hours ago, DragonRR said:

I've found that sometimes the service still manages to fail on a restart which explains why a shutdown with fast startup disabled doesn't always work.

 

I have written a short vb script which I run at logon to check whether there are dump files being written into my temp folder.

I've put the script up on Tom's here:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3786929/error-message-copying-pasting.html

 

It is reliant on you deleting the dump files once you've been alerted and may give the odd false positive because sometimes the Nahimic service creates a file or two in their anyway.

On that thread you said:

 

Quote

Once you've done that type Task Scheduler into the search bar and create a task to run the program at login, probably with a 10 second delay. If anyone needs more in depth instructions on this let me know. 

 

How to set correctly Task Scheduler??

[PIRATA!]

3 hours ago, DragonRR said:

I've found that sometimes the service still manages to fail on a restart which explains why a shutdown with fast startup disabled doesn't always work.

 

I have written a short vb script which I run at logon to check whether there are dump files being written into my temp folder.

I've put the script up on Tom's here:

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/id-3786929/error-message-copying-pasting.html

 

It is reliant on you deleting the dump files once you've been alerted and may give the odd false positive because sometimes the Nahimic service creates a file or two in their anyway.

Ok, since I'd like to be advised if this will happen to me again, I'd like to use your script, and for that I'd edited it so for opening the TEMP folder just right the warning message. Here is the script. Copy and paste this into a text file change both the "YOURUSERNAME" to... your user name and save it. Change the file extension to .vbs

 

Dim fso
Dim folder
Set fso = CreateObject("Scripting.FileSystemObject")
Set folder = fso.getfolder("C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Local\Temp\")
fPrefix = "PRODUCT_NAME_UNKNOWN_CrashDumpPRODUCT_VERSION_MAJOR_UNKNOWN-PRODUCT_VERSION_MINOR_UNKNOWN"
For Each File in Folder.Files
If fso.GetExtensionName(File)="dmp" then
fRes = instr(File,fPrefix)
If fRes <> "0" Then
Found=vbTrue
End If
End If
Next
If Found=vbTrue Then
MsgBox "*** !!! WARNING - PROBABLE NAHIMIC .DMP FILE IN TEMP FOLDER !!! ***"
Dim shell
Set shell = wscript.CreateObject("Shell.Application")
shell.Open "C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\Local\Temp\"
End If

 

 

[DragonRR]

Nice addition Pirata!

I'll add it to the other forum with a credit.

 

So run up Task scheduler

Click on the right top panel - Create Basic Task

Type a name in,

NEXT

Click "When I log on"

NEXT

Click "Start A Program "

NEXT

Browse to the folder you put your script in and choose it. (As mentioned make sure you put it in a simple folder name like "c:\Nahimic\")

NEXT
Click the check box to open the properties dialogue

FINISH

At the bottom of the properties window "Configure for:" - choose Windows 10

Click the check box for "Run with the highest privileges"

Click the "Triggers" Tab

Select "At log on"

Click Edit

Under "Advanced settings"

Check "Delay task for:"

Choose "30 seconds" in the drop down

Edit the "30" for whatever you want... I went for 10.

Click OK

Click OK

 

That's it. To check it is working - right click on it and RUN it.

 

If there is no dump file in your temp folder then nothing will seem to happen

To check it works create a text file in the temp folder, rename it to:

"PRODUCT_NAME_UNKNOWN_CrashDumpPRODUCT_VERSION_MAJOR_UNKNOWN-PRODUCT_VERSION_MINOR_UNKNOWN-2018-11-21--10-39-14_.dmp"

Then run the task again

 

 

 

 

 

[PIRATA!]

1 hour ago, DragonRR said:

Nice addition Pirata!

I'll add it to the other forum with a credit.

 

So run up Task scheduler

Click on the right top panel - Create Basic Task

Type a name in,

NEXT

Click "When I log on"

NEXT

Click "Start A Program "

NEXT

Browse to the folder you put your script in and choose it. (As mentioned make sure you put it in a simple folder name like "c:\Nahimic\")

NEXT
Click the check box to open the properties dialogue

FINISH

At the bottom of the properties window "Configure for:" - choose Windows 10

Click the check box for "Run with the highest privileges"

Click the "Triggers" Tab

Select "At log on"

Click Edit

Under "Advanced settings"

Check "Delay task for:"

Choose "30 seconds" in the drop down

Edit the "30" for whatever you want... I went for 10.

Click OK

Click OK

 

That's it. To check it is working - right click on it and RUN it.

 

If there is no dump file in your temp folder then nothing will seem to happen

To check it works create a text file in the temp folder, rename it to:

"PRODUCT_NAME_UNKNOWN_CrashDumpPRODUCT_VERSION_MAJOR_UNKNOWN-PRODUCT_VERSION_MINOR_UNKNOWN-2018-11-21--10-39-14_.dmp"

Then run the task again

 

 

 

 

 

Perfect! I had fount it my self, but didn't thought to check the box for "Run with the highest privileges".

And for the delay time...I think 10s might be too short..

[DragonRR]

10 seconds seems to work OK for me. I'm considering automating file deletion and auto re-booting but i sincerely hope it will be fixed properly soon!

 

 

 

[DragonRR]

Just seen this post in response to a request I put in on the Nahimic community:

 

https://nahimic.helprace.com/i605-copy-and-paste-not-working#item_comment_block_41787

 

Nahimic Support · 42 minutes ago

We are aware of this problem and we are working on it 
We will communicate on this problem when we have understood the problem. 
Best regards, 

 

 

Awesome!!!

 

[DragonRR]

My Sonic Studio software auto updated tonight via the Windows App Store.

 

On a restart I immediately got ONE crash dump file in my temp folder.

 

However:

I set fast startup back on and, so far, crash dump files have stopped appearing in my temp folder and copy and paste is working!

 

It is worth pointing out that I have never been able to have fast startup enabled without getting the problem so this is a very hopeful sign!

[DragonRR]

Both of my systems have been fine since the Sonic Studio update.

 

[PIRATA!]

I've been informed that the new Realtek UAD drivers should not have the Nahmic issue any more. I'll try and let you know.

[PIRATA!]

5 hours ago, PIRATA! said:

I've been informed that the new Realtek UAD drivers should not have the Nahmic issue any more. I'll try and let you know.

Can confirm. Last Realtek drivers works correctly.