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how much fps do you get air cooling vs water cooling?

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i ordered both the 8086k and gtx asus 1080ti, for the cpu im using the tharmaltake RGB plus 360m liquid cooler and the asus 1080ti im using its stock air cooler 

 

how much gain would i have gotten if i custom water cooled the whole pc and OC it?

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That depends on the silicon lottery and how far you can overclock them on both air and water and if there would be a difference in the overclocks depending on the cooling method. Air vs water alone doesn't improve FPS at all.

 

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To clarify, 99.9% of the time you'll get the same FPS but you might be able to push slightly higher overclocks on water and keep temperatures down or equal to air with a higher overclock but that's about it. It's mostly down to how hot you are comfortable with things getting.

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cooling doesn't affect fps, directly, but if you use it to overclock water would be the best (sorta) as it moves the heat away better because you can cool hotter chips more efficiently and thus (in theory) get better overclocks, but the silicon lottery does start to play into affect here as some chips won't get past a certain speed where as many will get past that easily with little no no change to CPU voltage

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1 minute ago, grimreeper132 said:

cooling doesn't affect fps, directly, but if you use it to overclock water would be the best (sorta) as it moves the heat away better because you can cool hotter chips more efficiently and thus (in theory) get better overclocks, but the silicon lottery does start to play into affect here as some chips won't get past a certain speed where as many will get past that easily with little no no change to CPU voltage

what if i OC how much fps would i gain?

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1 minute ago, saif96 said:

what if i OC how much fps would i gain?

In what game? How much overclock? How much voltage? How lucky did you get with getting a good chip? How hot are you comfortable with running everything? What framerate? What resolution?

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1 minute ago, saif96 said:

what if i OC how much fps would i gain?

depends on what overclock you get. 

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1 minute ago, Lurick said:

In what game? How much overclock? How much voltage? How lucky did you get with getting a good chip? How hot are you comfortable with running everything? What framerate? What resolution?

-a game lets say resident evil 7 or rainbow six

-im not sure what overclock i dont know much about overclocking things

-im not sure what voltage is tbh lol

-i didnt get the cpu yet its coming though

-i dont mind if it gets a bit worm or if theres a sound it doesnt bother me

-what do you mean by what framerate?

-4K

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58 minutes ago, saif96 said:

-a game lets say resident evil 7 or rainbow six

-im not sure what overclock i dont know much about overclocking things

-im not sure what voltage is tbh lol

-i didnt get the cpu yet its coming though

-i dont mind if it gets a bit worm or if theres a sound it doesnt bother me

-what do you mean by what framerate?

-4K

No, you will see no difference based on this provided information. I wouldn't even overclock if I were you.

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23 minutes ago, Fixinit1 said:

No, you will see no difference based on this provided information. I wouldn't even overclock if I were you.

do you think i could get +100 fps if i had an SLI on 1080tis?

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46 minutes ago, saif96 said:

do you think i could get +100 fps if i had an SLI on 1080tis?

No. And fps over your monitors refresh rate doesn't matter. If you are keen about fps, only double the refresh rate really matters as it makes sure that fps never drops so you would notice it. You are going to see maybe 15-20fps rises on certain games and resolutions/graphics by OC'ing GPU. You will see even less with CPU OC as CPU rarely directly shows in what is rendered. Usually you notice it from game running more smoothly while fps remains same.

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You need to learn the basics first, in order to understand our answers. 

 

There is no blanket answer to 'how much pwn will I get with water cooling over air cooling?' as it depends on all of those factors that you've stated you don't know what they are. 

 

Linus has quite a few good videos on the Tech Quickie channel that will get you started on the path to understanding how this stuff works, but in a nutshell it will depend on many factors such as :

Resolution / refresh rate / graphical effects

RAM speed and timings

Graphics card(s) / their settings and cooling

Silicon lottery (how well-binned your chip is) 

Specific water cooling setup chosen

 

At 4k resolution you're not going to see 100+ fps in modern graphically intense titles with high detail/effects with two 1080Ti in SLI. 

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You can gain some extra FPS because you could OC a bit higher. Especially the GPU can boost higher and run slightly faster.

But overall the gained FPS will be very little.

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