Which CPU needed for a 4K NAS Server + Gaming Server?

[phongle123]

Hello, I've been going through and over this and decided I'd rather build a NAS than buy a 700-900$ 8 bay NAS.

 

I am looking at buying one of these due to the fact that Ryzen3+ w/APU isn't out yet and these support DDR3L RAM and runs on the Z170 board. I want to keep the wattage as low as possible.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819117625

 

Would any of these support 4K Plex?

 

I want to actively run a small gaming server and be able to run it as a NAS and powerful enough to do both with a 4K playback from NAS at the same time.

 

Edit: The gaming server will be VERY small. It will not be used to host a private gaming server but rather to store variables able to store information such as money or points in mobile games.

[tt2468]

1 minute ago, phongle123 said:

Hello, I've been going through and over this and decided I'd rather build a NAS than buy a 700-900$ 8 bay NAS.

 

I am looking at buying one of these due to the fact that Ryzen3+ w/APU isn't out yet and these support DDR3L RAM and runs on the Z170 board. I want to keep the wattage as low as possible.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819117625

 

Would any of these support 4K Plex?

I'd say get at least an i3 for 4k viewing. The g4400 might cut it, but it would be a way better investment in the long run to get an i3.

[phongle123]

5 minutes ago, tt2468 said:

I'd say get at least an i3 for 4k viewing. The g4400 might cut it, but it would be a way better investment in the long run to get an i3.

I am considering ANY of the G4xxx from the newegg link. The i3's run at a higher continuous use wattage than the G4560. Which (and I am guessing here) if used as a NAS + Active Gaming Server 24/7 it wouldn't be at idle and would be at some usage. So this is representative of the usage. Also these a lot cheaper depending on which G4xxx chosen.

 

Edit: I want one that does NOT struggle or hit high usage when doing this.

[tt2468]

Just now, phongle123 said:

I am considering ANY of the G4xxx from the newegg link. The i3's run at a higher continuous use wattage than the G4560. Which (and I am guessing here) if used as a NAS + Active Gaming Server 24/7 it wouldn't be at idle and would be at some usage. So this is representative of the usage.

I'll assume your power bill is ~14c/kwh. At ~6kwh/month you are looking at a $.85 increase in your power bill per month. I can't imagine that you actually see that as more important than having the speed you need. Also, you probably won't be able to run any streaming and a game sever at the same time with a g4560.

[phongle123]

2 minutes ago, tt2468 said:

I'll assume your power bill is ~14c/kwh. At ~6kwh/month you are looking at a $.85 increase in your power bill per month. I can't imagine that you actually see that as more important than having the speed you need. Also, you probably won't be able to run any streaming and a game sever at the same time with a g4560.

Happy 2000th post. I didn't know how much CPU power I need to be able to do this. This is why I'm asking. Maybe an amount of how much cinebench # I need would help give me a baseline of how much performance I need to run what I want/need. 

[mikat]

37 minutes ago, phongle123 said:

I am considering ANY of the G4xxx from the newegg link. The i3's run at a higher continuous use wattage than the G4560. Which (and I am guessing here) if used as a NAS + Active Gaming Server 24/7 it wouldn't be at idle and would be at some usage. So this is representative of the usage. Also these a lot cheaper depending on which G4xxx chosen.

 

Edit: I want one that does NOT struggle or hit high usage when doing this.

the i3-8100 runs at almost the same wattage as the G4560 and is a lot better (2c vs 4c):

If you're gonna do many things with this nas at once the i3 is definitely the way to go but I don't know how long you can wait for B and H series 300 series boards to come out

https://www.techspot.com/review/1499-intel-core-i3-8100-i3-8350K/page4.html

[NelizMastr]

You're not going to be able to do a game server and a 4K transcode stream on a Pentium at the same time, the i3 will do that no problem. But yes, wait for the H and B chipsets and get an i3 8100. Alternatively, you could wait for the T chips to launch, with 35W TDP.

[phongle123]

7 hours ago, NelizMastr said:

You're not going to be able to do a game server and a 4K transcode stream on a Pentium at the same time, the i3 will do that no problem. But yes, wait for the H and B chipsets and get an i3 8100. Alternatively, you could wait for the T chips to launch, with 35W TDP.

May I ask if this is due to the amount of extra power the i3-8100 has over the G4620 or is it something in terms of features that it has over the Pentium?

 

For reference on Passmark:

7100 = 5847 points

7100T = 5161 (88.3% of 7100)

G4620 = 5283 (90.4% of 7100)

8100 = 8191

8100T = Assuming the 88.3% is 7232

 

The gaming server will be VERY small. It will not be used to host a private gaming server but rather to store variables able to store information such as money or points in mobile games.

[alex75871]

I use a 10 core 2.8 GHz Xeon (E5-2680 v2) and it works a treat for 4K video transcoding

[ssaulsbu]

1 hour ago, alex75871 said:

I use a 10 core 2.8 GHz Xeon (E5-2680 v2) and it works a treat for 4K video transcoding

What's the power consumption on that bad boy?

[phongle123]

Just now, ssaulsbu said:

What's the power consumption on that bad boy?

Wondering the same. Its a 110W TDP CPU. I want a Build that doesn't exceed 30W at idle with HDDs powered down. Prebuilt NAS's do this at 10-15W.

[Bajantechnician]

1 hour ago, phongle123 said:

Wondering the same. Its a 110W TDP CPU. I want a Build that doesn't exceed 30W at idle with HDDs powered down. Prebuilt NAS's do this at 10-15W.

Just get the i3. you cant transcode and view at 4k at the same time with a pentium

[NelizMastr]

14 hours ago, phongle123 said:

May I ask if this is due to the amount of extra power the i3-8100 has over the G4620 or is it something in terms of features that it has over the Pentium?

 

For reference on Passmark:

7100 = 5847 points

7100T = 5161 (88.3% of 7100)

G4620 = 5283 (90.4% of 7100)

8100 = 8191

8100T = Assuming the 88.3% is 7232

 

The gaming server will be VERY small. It will not be used to host a private gaming server but rather to store variables able to store information such as money or points in mobile games.

The difference is cores, the pentium has 2, the i3 has 4, so it scales better.

[phongle123]

@NelizMastr@Bajantechnician@tt2468

So I've been thinking that 4k streaming isn't super necessary and have just decided on 1080p. It will still be doing the other things just 1080p instead of 4k this time.

 

Would I be fine with the Pentium anywhere between the G4400 - G4620 even if it's the weakest one being the G4400?

 

[Bajantechnician]

2 hours ago, phongle123 said:

@NelizMastr@Bajantechnician@tt2468

So I've been thinking that 4k streaming isn't super necessary and have just decided on 1080p. It will still be doing the other things just 1080p instead of 4k this time.

 

Would I be fine with the Pentium anywhere between the G4400 - G4620 even if it's the weakest one being the G4400?

 

 get the i3 it’s not that much more expensive (if any at all) and it’ll perform better. The pentium is fine, but if you do decide to push the pentium more, you’re going to be spending the money for a pentium AND an i3 instead of an i3 now

[alex75871]

On 12/7/2017 at 9:41 AM, phongle123 said:

Wondering the same. Its a 110W TDP CPU. I want a Build that doesn't exceed 30W at idle with HDDs powered down. Prebuilt NAS's do this at 10-15W.

Supermicro X9SRL-F

E5-2680 v2 10 core

64 GB (4x 16 GB) DDR3 1866 RAM Hynix

LSI 9211-8i

8x WD Red 4 TB

2x Intel SSD 540s

 

Idles at 100w, 250+w under high load. I can do 2x 4k transcodes with 50+ GB Bray remux source files.

[phongle123]

1 hour ago, alex75871 said:

Supermicro X9SRL-F

E5-2680 v2 10 core

64 GB (4x 16 GB) DDR3 1866 RAM Hynix

LSI 9211-8i

8x WD Red 4 TB

2x Intel SSD 540s

 

Idles at 100w, 250+w under high load. I can do 2x 4k transcodes with 50+ GB Bray remux source files.

Meanwhile, I'd like to keep my NAS cost under this brand new 2 dolla bill!