What would you recomend?

[Tummy]

Hello

 

I want to build my first PC. I'm not that old so I want it as cheap is possible with a good upgradepath. Does anyone have tips or ideas? I am already happy if it boots and can run simple things.

 

Any help is welkome.

 

from: Tummy

[cowpker4life]

Just for Web browsing then? Or will you be gaming or anything? Also what Is your bugget or what is a price point you are looking for it to be around.

[The Sloth]

just get an old OEM pc. 

[Leonard]

upgrade path + cheap = Ryzen (includes gaming, streaming & web browsing)

[Mooshi]

This is like asking someone to recommend you a burger and only knowing you like buns. We need a bit more info before people can throw together builds.

[cowpker4life]

If you are just going be Web browsing and watching YouTube.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X6DLLD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X6DLLD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($55.29 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - B150M-C D3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.00 @ B&H) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GT 730 4GB Video Card  ($80.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Rosewill - SRM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Jet) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($36.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $461.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 12:57 EDT-0400

Could get just use igpu if you don't want 1440p or 4k YouTube or play any games at medium or low settings for 1080p. 

[Anjelllo]

20 minutes ago, cowpker4life said:

If you are just going be Web browsing and watching YouTube.

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X6DLLD
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/X6DLLD/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($55.29 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Asus - B150M-C D3 Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($44.99 @ Newegg) 
Memory: Crucial - 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory  ($54.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.00 @ B&H) 
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GT 730 4GB Video Card  ($80.99 @ Amazon) 
Case: Rosewill - SRM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Jet) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($36.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $461.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 12:57 EDT-0400

Could get just use igpu if you don't want 1440p or 4k YouTube or play any games at medium or low settings for 1080p. 

80$ for a gt 730!?! You could get a 1050 for the same price! And why are you reccomending a pentium on a older platform when a g4560 build is the same price (and can play 4k video on it's igpu) ? Woops, i didn't see lga 1151, only the ddr3, isn't ddr3 incompatible with skylake/kaby?

[cowpker4life]

27 minutes ago, Anjelllo said:

80$ for a gt 730!?! You could get a 1050 for the same price! And why are you reccomending a pentium on a older platform when a g4560 build is the same price (and can play 4k video on it's igpu) ? Woops, i didn't see lga 1151, only the ddr3, isn't ddr3 incompatible with skylake/kaby?

Ddr3 should work with skylake/kabylake given pcpp dosnt flag any issues with the cpu and ram a b250 mobo that supports kaby lake is about $20 more then a b150 the extra 200 mhz isn't worth $20 imo and the gtx 1050 might be a better choice didn't relize the gt 730 is still based on Fermi and not pascal yet. And a rx 560 would prob be a better choice then a gtx 1050.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HYRdPs
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HYRdPs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.00 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 560 2GB PULSE Video Card  ($103.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill - SRM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Jet) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($36.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $503.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 13:45 EDT-0400

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRnfcc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRnfcc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($55.29 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($45.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.00 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 560 2GB PULSE Video Card  ($103.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill - SRM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Jet) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($37.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $483.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 13:48 EDT-0400

 

 

The $20 just to use a 200 mhz faster cpu isn't worth it also could drop $60 for a 240gb ssd what might be worth it if you plan on not using the system for anything but Web browsing or something along them lines.

 

[Anjelllo]

10 minutes ago, cowpker4life said:

Ddr3 should work with skylake/kabylake given pcpp dosnt flag any issues with the cpu and ram a b250 mobo that supports kaby lake is about $20 more then a b150 the extra 200 mhz isn't worth $20 imo and the gtx 1050 might be a better choice didn't relize the gt 730 is still based on Fermi and not pascal yet. And a rx 560 would prob be a better choice then a gtx 1050.

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HYRdPs
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HYRdPs/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($59.99 @ B&H) 
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($62.99 @ SuperBiiz) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.00 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 560 2GB PULSE Video Card  ($103.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill - SRM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Jet) 
Power Supply: SeaSonic - 300W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply  ($36.69 @ SuperBiiz) 
Total: $503.63
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 13:45 EDT-0400

 

 

PCPartPicker part list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRnfcc
Price breakdown by merchant: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yRnfcc/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4400 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor  ($55.29 @ OutletPC) 
Motherboard: Gigabyte - GA-H110M-A Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  ($45.98 @ Newegg) 
Memory: G.Skill - Aegis 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  ($50.99 @ Newegg) 
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive  ($169.00 @ B&H) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 560 2GB PULSE Video Card  ($103.98 @ Newegg) 
Case: Rosewill - SRM-01 MicroATX Mini Tower Case  ($19.99 @ Jet) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  ($37.99 @ Newegg) 
Total: $483.22
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 13:48 EDT-0400

 

 

The $20 just to use a 200 mhz faster cpu isn't worth it also could drop $60 for a 240gb ssd what might be worth it if you plan on not using the system for anything but Web browsing or something along them lines.

 

https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/135530-skylakes-ddr3-support it seems you're right, but prolonged use kills the chip because of higher voltages(and the lower speeds hurt performance). Most h110 mobos are updated by now and the ht from the g4560 makes it a much better cpu.

[Tummy]

3 hours ago, cowpker4life said:

Just for Web browsing then? Or will you be gaming or anything? Also what Is your bugget or what is a price point you are looking for it to be around.

Its for web browsing and games like GTA V and Fallout 4. My butged is around €300 and I already have A ATX case, 4 fans and storage.

[cowpker4life]

1 hour ago, Tummy said:

Its for web browsing and games like GTA V and Fallout 4. My butged is around €300 and I already have A ATX case, 4 fans and storage.

Ok. I'll go check out eu pcpp and see if I can get yout something around that. You thinking about spending money for a kinda deacnt cpu a mobo and ram now and use the igpu for a month or so and get a gpu later? Could probably get quite a bit better price per prefromance.

[cowpker4life]

3 hours ago, Anjelllo said:

https://pcpartpicker.com/forums/topic/135530-skylakes-ddr3-support it seems you're right, but prolonged use kills the chip because of higher voltages(and the lower speeds hurt performance). Most h110 mobos are updated by now and the ht from the g4560 makes it a much better cpu.

Yeah I forgot it had hyper treading them extram 2 theards help a lot.

 

[cowpker4life]

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/j4CTxY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/j4CTxY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  (£54.82 @ BT Shop) 
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£61.47 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Crucial - 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£26.94 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Crucial - 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£26.94 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 560 2GB PULSE Video Card  (£94.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£48.36 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £313.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 22:34 BST+0100

 

 

If you buy a cpu then a gpu tho. And get an r5 then in a month or two get a gtx 1060 or rx 580.

[Tummy]

9 hours ago, cowpker4life said:

PCPartPicker part list: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/j4CTxY
Price breakdown by merchant: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/j4CTxY/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel - Pentium G4560 3.5GHz Dual-Core Processor  (£54.82 @ BT Shop) 
Motherboard: MSI - B250M PRO-VD Micro ATX LGA1151 Motherboard  (£61.47 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Crucial - 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£26.94 @ CCL Computers) 
Memory: Crucial - 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR4-2133 Memory  (£26.94 @ CCL Computers) 
Video Card: Sapphire - Radeon RX 560 2GB PULSE Video Card  (£94.98 @ CCL Computers) 
Power Supply: Corsair - CXM 450W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply  (£48.36 @ Ebuyer) 
Total: £313.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2017-05-25 22:34 BST+0100

 

 

If you buy a cpu then a gpu tho. And get an r5 then in a month or two get a gtx 1060 or rx 580.

WoW, thanks really helped me out. Don't know you can get a mobo and cpu so cheap. And with the money I saved with that I can buy R9 270 crossfire because they cost 50€ here. ??

[cowpker4life]

5 hours ago, Tummy said:

WoW, thanks really helped me out. Don't know you can get a mobo and cpu so cheap. And with the money I saved with that I can buy R9 270 crossfire because they cost 50€ here. ??

Your welcome. It's not the best cpu but it should get you by and can always upgrade to a locked i5 in a year or so if you need more power. Two cores really limit what you can do but pretty much all you can do on your bugget so just try not to have to many things running in the background as games tend to pin one core and ideal on anther/ hop around on one. As long as you keep back ground process to a minimum shouldn't have any problems tho.